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Tollymain posted:how has he been reincarnated for so long (look at how old and crumbly that armour is) when all of the other prime angels are still doing the building-sized chrysalis thing and show no sign of emerging any time soon i think the only prime angel we saw in the void was metatron
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unrelated thought: technology doesn't tend to do very good in the void but people can carry possessions/personal weapons/clothing without them suffering ill effects? clearly the answer here to preserve weaponized technology in transit is cybernetics and/or powersuits
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 02:57 |
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AriadneThread posted:i think the only prime angel we saw in the void was metatron The primes were the huge feather-wrapped statues we saw.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 03:10 |
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Tollymain posted:angel armour is incredibly heavy-duty poo poo, and somehow i don't see michael exposing his to a lot of wear and tear? he's been dragging that thing around for a while It sounded to me like that damage is from the demiurge war, not from zoss. "Bear the mark of the company's sundering" after all and when zoss first came in there wasn't a compact anyway.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 04:09 |
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calling it now: while jagganoth may be the most physically powerful of the seven, mammoth is the most actually powerful because he's financing all of them
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 04:12 |
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oh no i don't think zoss damaged michael's current armour i just think that michael's armour looks the way it does because it's a) a really old design and b) it's just been around for loving ever nothing escapes the erosion of time not even magical super-strong angel armour
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 04:15 |
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he's sort of about twenty stories too short to be in his original Prime getup dude, it's just hosed up old armor the post-concordance angels have still been around for a long, long time, and most of their gear is in way worse shape than 2 Michael's. 82 White Chain's lookin all shiny and spotless by comparison because she's on her, uh, 82nd set that got totaled A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Another story tidbit teased by Operant from the Q&A Tumblr, verifying a vague lore element I've seen and/or repeated occasionally:quote:Q
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 04:38 |
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quote:The King of Devils is called Himself
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 04:45 |
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I thought I saw a link to the Q&A tumblr but I instantly lost it. Can someone post it again?atomicthumbs posted:calling it now: while jagganoth may be the most physically powerful of the seven, mammoth is the most actually powerful because he's financing all of them
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 05:15 |
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himself is basically an unmasked (non-masked? never masked) devil who somehow possesses sapience regardless, which is sort of on the same lines as an intelligent self-perpetuating natural disaster with an agenda
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 05:24 |
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RoboCicero posted:I thought I saw a link to the Q&A tumblr but I instantly lost it. Can someone post it again? http://killsixbilliondemons.tumblr.com/
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 05:24 |
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Operant is (pleasantly!) surprisingly prolific answering internet rando questions!quote:Q: Is it true that once a millennium The Seven set aside their differences to get together and play a good old fashioned game of Dimensions and Demiurges? And that the GM is Zoss and that Jagganoth always minmaxes his characters to a ridiculous extent?
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 05:54 |
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RoboCicero posted:I thought I saw a link to the Q&A tumblr but I instantly lost it. Can someone post it again? mammon isn't powerful because they are rich, they're rich because they're one of the 7 most powerful beings in the universe and that's where they divert their efforts to; if somebody who is not a demiurge was powerful enough to defy mammon's institutions, they're still nowhere near dealing with mammon's bullshit presumably if one of the other demiurges didn't play by the rules the other six would put pressure on them until they did, whether it involved money or not Tollymain fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Tollymain posted:himself is basically an unmasked (non-masked? never masked) devil who somehow possesses sapience regardless, which is sort of on the same lines as an intelligent self-perpetuating natural disaster with an agenda There's a book with this premise called Eater (because the disaster is a rogue black hole). It was Okay. Miles better than any iteration of the silver surfer/galactus stories though.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 10:31 |
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At least an intelligent flood only wants to drown things. An unbound devil with a mind actively desires to make the multiverse a worse place, by every definition.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 16:54 |
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impossible
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 17:39 |
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wiegieman posted:At least an intelligent flood only wants to drown things. An unbound devil with a mind actively desires to make the multiverse a worse place, by every definition. Actually I have to wonder at that. So far the devils we've met have all been widely different personalities and the most of the information we've been given is from sources that are antithesis to devils or were trying to manipulate the situation to their advantage. It would not surprise me to find that the devils have no plans to upset anything or are actively trying to keep the status quo.
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# ? Feb 26, 2016 22:01 |
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I feel like the devils would have a very "gently caress you, got mine" attitude towards all of the bullshit going on. They don't care, they want their shiny masks and their tall chances of eventually going back to being amorphous clouds of black bile and that's it. That's hardly a justification for the upcoming Great Demon Holocaust, though
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# ? Feb 27, 2016 06:43 |
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Update.quote:“The land was gone. I couldn’t believe it. Whole stretches of the earth were all rent up, as though torn by some monstrous beast. Ash covered the land where the orchards had been, and even the air was choked with an oily rain. I grabbed a passing indigent, picking through the filth like a stray dog.
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# ? Feb 27, 2016 06:59 |
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Archenteron posted:
If I had to make a guess (and I do), I'd say Allison would accidentally free the Devil King and would then open a portal back to Earth where she'd make it run into Mt. Rushmore in a foolish attempt to bind it to the 'masks'. And, of course, it would work.
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No way there isn't some faction of devils up to their own schemes. Wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some kinda plot to figure out how to take forms without masks. Or let devils gift their own.
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SexyBlindfold posted:If I had to make a guess (and I do), I'd say Allison would accidentally free the Devil King and would then open a portal back to Earth where she'd make it run into Mt. Rushmore in a foolish attempt to bind it to the 'masks'. And, of course, it would work. Ah yes, the classic tale of the creation of President Teddy Theodore Roosevelt Grizzly Washington Cherry Yellowstone Lincoln Jefferson El Diablo The Third.
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quote:It is a curious thing, to the unschooled, that the Divinities insist they be remembered as they were when they were young. Surely they would prefer to be seen at the heights of their power, the gods whose sevenfold heel rests on the throat of the universe! I will never get tired of Abaddon's comment moderation style.
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# ? Feb 27, 2016 08:54 |
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TheCIASentMe posted:Actually I have to wonder at that. yeah they generally just seem like a lumpen underclass, mostly selfish in a world without bigger causes to believe in, manipulative in a system that explicitly rewards it, resentful of their masters like any self-respecting slave but well aware their bondage beats the alternative; so basically similar to everyone else in the conquered multiverse. I think you're bringing in some D&D poo poo if you're seeing them as fundamentally committed to Universal Evil or something, they'd barely get it up for Universal Sleaze A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Feb 27, 2016 |
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I think it probably wouldn't be surprising if Himself ended up one of the LEAST manipulative, treacherous devils. Devils trick and manipulate in part because that is how they shed their names. They can't just be content to whatever station they've reached either because apparently names eventually grow stale. But Himself has not only reached beyond the top of the ladder, he's also got no need to worry about his name growing stale because he doesn't have one.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:yeah they generally just seem like a lumpen underclass, mostly selfish in a world without bigger causes to believe in, manipulative in a system that explicitly rewards it, resentful of their masters like any self-respecting slave but well aware their bondage beats the alternative; so basically similar to everyone else in the conquered multiverse. I think you're bringing in some D&D poo poo if you're seeing them as fundamentally committed to Universal Evil or something, they'd barely get it up for Universal Sleaze They're to Humans to what Angels are to Servants. Angels are the epitome of order and hierarchy, Devils are unrestricted emotion and ambition - not always malevolent but easily bent to it, just like the Angels are easily bent to being humourless fascist jerks. quote:Q: What would life be like for an average subject within one of Jadis's worlds? Jadis: DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Feb 27, 2016 |
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:yeah they generally just seem like a lumpen underclass, mostly selfish in a world without bigger causes to believe in, manipulative in a system that explicitly rewards it, resentful of their masters like any self-respecting slave but well aware their bondage beats the alternative; so basically similar to everyone else in the conquered multiverse. I think you're bringing in some D&D poo poo if you're seeing them as fundamentally committed to Universal Evil or something, they'd barely get it up for Universal Sleaze im Lawful Sleaze, myself
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reignonyourparade posted:I think it probably wouldn't be surprising if Himself ended up one of the LEAST manipulative, treacherous devils. Devils trick and manipulate in part because that is how they shed their names. They can't just be content to whatever station they've reached either because apparently names eventually grow stale. But Himself has not only reached beyond the top of the ladder, he's also got no need to worry about his name growing stale because he doesn't have one. Alternatively, Himself is his name and he keeps it fresh by being at least bureaucratically responsible for all the organised crime in throne, which is why he can afford to spend 100% of his time chained inside a box.
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# ? Feb 27, 2016 11:54 |
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a devil's name and mask are bound up in each other. a devil without a mask has no name
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# ? Feb 27, 2016 20:30 |
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Somehow my eyes slid right past that bit without registering it despite it being His Thing. Whoops! I'm glad this is a character we're going to meet and not just some abstract background detail.
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# ? Feb 27, 2016 20:52 |
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Where was this thing about Himself being unmasked?
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:09 |
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I thought unmasked devils were mindless fragments of chaotic life.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:45 |
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quote:Q:Anonymous said Makes sense, but interesting nonetheless. I really hope we can see an angel (probably White Chain) being bound to their body soon.
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Unbound isn't necessarily the same as unmasked. There's been nothing really clear said about it and like with the color castes Operant's probably still working it out, but I sorta read it as that unmasked and unnamed demons are mindless formless raw power, their masking/binding is a deal where they get individuality and a mind in exchange for servitude and heavy limits placed on the ways they can use his power, and Himself has managed to extricate himself from all the debts, conditions, and limitations imposed by his binding while retaining the intellect, resulting in a terrifying monster with the ability to pursue a real plan and leverage his power effectively.
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i don't remember where i read it but i'm pretty sure it's been stated somewhere that Himself has never been bound, never was. other than in the sense that they shoved him into a giant coffin i guess.
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# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:44 |
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Has it been revealed who owns Allison's earth?
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# ? Feb 29, 2016 19:45 |
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snucks posted:Has it been revealed who owns Allison's earth? No one. The Second Conquest was not finished, Allison's Earth is in one of the unconquered universes.
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All universes are owned by one of the seven, because they split all of the keys, they just haven't gotten around to plundering them yet. Allison's universe is owned by Mottom, probably, based on Jagganoth's line in the second last panel here. This doesn't have to be the case: it could be that Allison's Earth's gate is unlocked, and by chance nobody has gone through it. That seems unlikely to me though, so the only way Mottom's Thorn Knights would have been able to get in is if she let them in, which would require her to have that world's key, which would mean she owns it (even if she has never been bothered to go there before). e/ gently caress probably, it's definitely Mottom. That's the whole reason we're sneaking into her hedonistic death fortress right now. Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Feb 29, 2016 |
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