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Ofaloaf posted:I'm grateful too for the most part, but my grandpa didn't kill Hitler with a bible in one hand and a crying bald eagle in the other just for me to withhold my own opinions about discrimination allegories in fantasy settings. hitler killed hitler therefore.............. e: incredibly bad snipe read honey crab http://www.honey-crab.com/ 
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Just Offscreen posted:Move over Mona Lisa More like Moon over Mona Lisa. Empress Theonora posted:if this is really your attitude towards webcomics in spite of all of the incredible work that's being done what are you even doing in this thread Space-Bird posted:mate if you had talent you wouldn't be posting. but seriously.. c'mon dude why do you even post this? what should web comic creators be doing instead? making print comics? like what is your metric for talent? How much money a person makes? Those marvel movies are the pinnacle of human creativity. What I wrote was a bit exaggerated. There are many webcomics that that provide entertainment and even a few that are good, like Oglaf and Bouletcorp. And there are also some that are sometimes good eg. KC Green's comics, SMBC, and Steve Lichmann. My metric for talent definitely isn't that the artists/writers are making print comics or loads of money, because most of the print comics are animus, superheroes, or garfields, and the persons who are big earners in webcomics are Jeff Jacks who makes QC, Aaron Diaz who makes robo-amputee-buff-waifu fetish stuff, and the Penny Arcade guys. Bell_ posted:Some folks got their start in webcomics and went on to do other things, but their webcomics gave them the exposure to get the opportunity to do those other things. Iirc Boulet made print comics and illustrations for some children's science thing before making webcomics. I haven't read any of his early stuff. Was it good/popular? And I think that Oglaf's artist had also done some professional work before. Kelly Turnbull who makes Manly Guys Doing Manly Things started her webcomic after she was employed as a professional animator. But I can't remember anyone who made some webcomics and then was later hired to make something else because of their webcomic fame. Maybe Jorge Cham who does the PHD Comics? Does he get paid for touring around talking about procrastination? Pick posted:webcomics are fun On this I unironically agree 100%.
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Hogge Wild posted:But I can't remember anyone who made some webcomics and then was later hired to make something else because of their webcomic fame. Off the top of my head, I think there's a bunch of people who went from webcomics to the Adventure Time empire (either writing tie-in comics, like Meredith Gran, or working on the show itself like Steve Wolfhard and Jesse Moynihan), the Three Word Phrase guy is working on one of those cartoon shows too, there are all those Ryan North things, the McNinja guy is writing for Marvel, the 'Help Us, Great Warrior' lady is doing those for a traditional publisher now (does that count?), and Jillian Tamaki put out 'This One Summer'
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Feb 27, 2016 16:07
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Hogge Wild posted:But I can't remember anyone who made some webcomics and then was later hired to make something else because of their webcomic fame. Ryan North, Christopher Hastings, Tyson Hesse, KC Green, Brian Clevinger, Meredith Gran off the top of my head
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Feb 27, 2016 16:10
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Also Ian Jones-Quartey. But it's a moving of goalpost anyway. There are webcomics made by talented people; it doesn't matter if they were doing something else before, or after.
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Feb 27, 2016 16:18
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Ofaloaf posted:There are good stories to tell when exploring why people are homophobic, or racist, or transphobic, as well as solid stories to be told about the emotional and the socioeconomic effects of racism, but those stories tend to be ignored in favor of showing characters we're told are oppressed sipping coffee and strumming guitars/blogging/attending university until maybe (if the author feels it necessary to remind the viewers that the characters are the targets of discrimination) some regular human shows up, angrily yells "YOU PEOPLE" and then there's a chapter of crying. everyone who takes a creative writing class gets told to write what you know, which is why so many of these comics are about nothing mycot posted:I agree that the animal racism in Poppy is much more nuanced than in any other story I've seen with something similar. Everyone is nominally ok with possums, it's just that when it comes to anything significant people show how they really feel. everyone is nominally okay with Poppy, who is effectively Superman. The rest of the possums are heavily implied (and stated outright in the commentary alongside the comic) to be the routine targets of pogroms where not outright enslaved/genocided
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Feb 27, 2016 16:33
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Hogge Wild posted:Iirc Boulet made print comics and illustrations for some children's science thing before making webcomics. I haven't read any of his early stuff. Was it good/popular? I've heard Boulet's comic series are great, but none of them are in English. He got a deal to publish his webcomic posts in English books last May: http://comicsalliance.com/boulet-collected-notes-soaring-penguin-press/ so maybe if those do well enough we'll see some of his older stuff get official translations too
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Nuns with Guns posted:I've heard Boulet's comic series are great, but none of them are in English. He got a deal to publish his webcomic posts in English books last May: http://comicsalliance.com/boulet-collected-notes-soaring-penguin-press/ so maybe if those do well enough we'll see some of his older stuff get official translations too His Dungeon comics can be found in English.
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Hogge Wild posted:His Dungeon comics can be found in English. That's true. I forgot he collaborated on the art for a few of those. Don't think he got writing credit though.
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While we're still on Monster Pop/Monsterkind (and X-Men too), I feel like the big issue about those comics is that they feel like stories about racism from people who have never really experienced racism as anything other than an abstract concept taught in liberal arts courses. I'd really like to see a comic about that stuff that handles those topics more in depth than fantasy college educated white people saying "racism is bad"
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I also think they tend to borrow too heavily specifically from racism. I have a number of friends who are disabled and disfigured, and their experience in public is very particular and I would imagine applicable to writing a story where differences in appearance are key. For example, I remember going to the state fair with a friend with one arm who wasn't wearing her prosthetic, and a child just pointed at her and broke down and cried. There was no ill-will from anyone involved, no one was "denying" anything to anyone else per se, but drat that was not great.
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Feb 27, 2016 21:34
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Whoa now don't be giving away those Bunny Meat scripts
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Pick posted:I also think they tend to borrow too heavily specifically from racism. I have a number of friends who are disabled and disfigured, and their experience in public is very particular and I would imagine applicable to writing a story where differences in appearance are key. For example, I remember going to the state fair with a friend with one arm who wasn't wearing her prosthetic, and a child just pointed at her and broke down and cried. There was no ill-will from anyone involved, no one was "denying" anything to anyone else per se, but drat that was not great. Jackard posted:Whoa now don't be giving away those Bunny Meat scripts Noted. Also:  The contributor is a Philippino guy who sent me a shitton of stories, all involving his hosed-up mother. I had to leave a couple out of the queue due to the sheer amount of violence involved. I think he's also schizophrenic but he has yet to confirm this. Expect to see his name come up a lot.
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Feb 27, 2016 23:59
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I think he might get his schizophrenia from his mother.
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It's okay, I wasn't planning on sleeping tonight anyway 
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Cat Mattress posted:Also Ian Jones-Quartey. Likewise, the dude who does Surviving the World got a grant to do a brief series on scientific concepts, but I'm not sure how much of that's due to him being "Dude who does a cool comic" or "Professor Shepherd who wants visual explanations for students".
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A bunch of the Steven Universe staff started as web or fan comics folks. A number of web comics folks have also had their web comics work and/or original work published by "real" publishers (as opposed to self-funded or kickstarter-funded self-publishing), like Tom Siddell (Gunnerkrigg Court), John Allison (Bad Machinery), Kate Beaton (Hark A Vagrant), Noel Stevenson (Nimona, Lumberjanes, working on Wander over Yonder). There's a continuum from pure-amateur doing web comic stuff to getting started, to people who've "gone pro" and are still doing web comics in addition to other work, to people who started doing web comics as a side thing after years in industry. And talent and quality and whatnot is all over the map. But there's a ton of great stuff out there, no doubt about it. I feel like the last decade or so has been the start of a golden age of self-published media hitting niches that stodgy traditional media disdains or ignores, and is evolving to a state where traditional publishers (in comics, books, games, whathaveyou) are starting to see indie content as an exciting source of new things, which is a nice counterpoint to the endless sequels and crap coming out of Hollywood and AAA gaming, by comparison. It still takes talent and dedication but the tools a publishing venues now exist such that pretty much anyone can get a comic, a book, a video game out in front of an audience. Not all of these will be good, and not all will succeed, but there's some amazing stuff turning up nonetheless. I wonder how far we are from really decent indie TV and movies -- high quality video recording and editing has gotten cheaper, but I think one of the challenges in this space is the number of people needed to shoot non-trivial footage -- unlike comics, books, or games it's harder to do this stuff with just one person or 2-3 people.
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paradoxGentleman posted:I read a very good analysis of that a couple of days ago, I'll see if I can find it again. Just checking to see if you ever found the link to this? I'd like to read it if you did. 
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Captain Bravo posted:Just checking to see if you ever found the link to this? I'd like to read it if you did. Sorry, I didn't.  It was on Tumblr but gold luck finding it there.
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There's also the Atomic Robo guys, who started the comic in print then moved to the web.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:There's also the Atomic Robo guys, who started the comic in print then moved to the web. It's written by the creator of 8-Bit Theater. Girl Genius did a similar thing, and they went from print to webcomic as well.
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SlothfulCobra posted:It's written by the creator of 8-Bit Theater. Well, Atomic Robo is a webcomic but also published by IDW but also self-published super deluxe editions.
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ed: Looking more like this might be on my end. ed2: yeah some random crap on my end. Parts Kit fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Feb 29, 2016 |
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Feb 29, 2016 11:06
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Parts Kit posted:
Well reading this post went from "stressful" to zero pretty quickly
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Parts Kit posted:
Was it https related? My browser always tests if a site can use https before http, and it's telling me the site has an improperly configured ssl certificate. Works fine with plain http though.
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I was having some problems with the poppy url, but a DNS flush seems to have cleared that up?
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Morbi posted:Well reading this post went from "stressful" to zero pretty quickly Pavlov posted:Was it https related? My browser always tests if a site can use https before http, and it's telling me the site has an improperly configured ssl certificate. Works fine with plain http though. 
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Parts Kit posted:Sorry for the false alarm Eset had a bad update this week that false reported a bunch of websites.
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Attached to the webcomics leading to work in other places... Also, even if your webcomic isn't a CRAZY hit it can still prove your reliable/can do good work. That alone can get you work http://www.amazon.com/Buffy-High-School-Years-Book-Two/dp/1506701159/ http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/25-981/Misfits-of-Avalon-Volume-2-The-Ill-Made-Guardian-TPB KellHound fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Mar 3, 2016 |
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Holy poo poo, Shiga, you moron, mustard gas doesn't just gently caress up your lungs.
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Demon is still going then, I take it?
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And it's as dumb as it ever was. Dumber, even.
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Given his fondness for idiocy with things like cum knives, you'd think he'd take the time to showcase breathing through a piss soaked rag, which is something that you could actually do to protect against mustard gas.
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A.o.D. posted:Given his fondness for idiocy with things like cum knives, you'd think he'd take the time to showcase breathing through a piss soaked rag, which is something that you could actually do to protect against mustard gas. There's still time!
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Girl Genius just brought out a major puzzle piece.
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MikeJF posted:Girl Genius just brought out a major puzzle piece. Before I check, are they currently in any large, fortified building?
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MikeJF posted:Girl Genius just brought out a major puzzle piece. A nose?
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Tunicate posted:Before I check, are they currently in any large, fortified building? They are underground! A large, fortified underground facility. So far we've gone from a large, fortified airship to a large, fortified castle to a large, fortified underground library. I think we're just descending.
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Technically, all of Paris became part of Castle Heterodyne. So they still haven't left.  But really, the plot's picked back up. It's not as free and loose as it was when Agatha was with the theater troupe, but it's no longer the same big, long, siege. And now that this timey-wimey poo poo is coming out, it's almost like there's a light at the end of the tunnel towards all that foreshadowing.
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