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wateyad
Nov 17, 2007

The power of the Outsider is

...dat ass
:yosbutt:

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Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
I discovered today that Dungeon Travelers 2 isn't a good game to play in public while working out at a gym. I am still doing the thing where I play my PSP while using an exercise bike and it's still working out really well, but I'm really addicted to DT2 so I thought it would be okay to play it as long as I didn't fight any bosses (since the boss defeat scenes tend to be the really erotic ones). First encounter is with some spider lady that is basically naked hanging upside down in bondage webs and a mostly-naked dryad girl. 9/10ths of my screen was flesh-colored and I think a casual glance would have made pretty much anyone think I was looking at cartoon porn while biking.

I switched over to FF7 real quick-like but I still really wanted to play a dungeon crawler since the grinding makes the exercise periods go faster. I really need to get my hands on Lost Heroes or one of the other good PSP dungeon crawlers.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Getsuya posted:

I discovered today that Dungeon Travelers 2 isn't a good game to play in public while working out at a gym. I am still doing the thing where I play my PSP while using an exercise bike and it's still working out really well, but I'm really addicted to DT2 so I thought it would be okay to play it as long as I didn't fight any bosses (since the boss defeat scenes tend to be the really erotic ones). First encounter is with some spider lady that is basically naked hanging upside down in bondage webs and a mostly-naked dryad girl. 9/10ths of my screen was flesh-colored and I think a casual glance would have made pretty much anyone think I was looking at cartoon porn while biking.

I switched over to FF7 real quick-like but I still really wanted to play a dungeon crawler since the grinding makes the exercise periods go faster. I really need to get my hands on Lost Heroes or one of the other good PSP dungeon crawlers.

its dungeon travelers, you basically were.


just play elminage original or something, jesus

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Getsuya posted:

I discovered today that Dungeon Travelers 2 isn't a good game to play in public while working out at a gym. I am still doing the thing where I play my PSP while using an exercise bike and it's still working out really well, but I'm really addicted to DT2 so I thought it would be okay to play it as long as I didn't fight any bosses (since the boss defeat scenes tend to be the really erotic ones). First encounter is with some spider lady that is basically naked hanging upside down in bondage webs and a mostly-naked dryad girl. 9/10ths of my screen was flesh-colored and I think a casual glance would have made pretty much anyone think I was looking at cartoon porn while biking.

I switched over to FF7 real quick-like but I still really wanted to play a dungeon crawler since the grinding makes the exercise periods go faster. I really need to get my hands on Lost Heroes or one of the other good PSP dungeon crawlers.

I think nobody cared to notice and you're just being paranoid.

Besides Gyms are known places where gay guys look to pick up other gay guys.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
the only videogame you need to play at the gym is Cruisin'

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

corn in the bible posted:

just play elminage original or something, jesus

I know I've been going on and on about wanting to play a dungeon crawler but I actually want to play a good one.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine
I don't even get how you can play videogames at the gym when you're busy lifting weights.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

The Taint Reaper posted:

I don't even get how you can play videogames at the gym when you're busy lifting weights.

what kind of scrub can't play the psp with their feet

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

The White Dragon posted:

what kind of scrub can't play the psp with their feet

You don't want to play games with your feet.

I have seem some Grade A Fungus grow on controllers and keyboards that some real determined but inept gamers have caused. They don't shower they don't bathe and yeah they do game with their feet because their're too busy growing bacterial cultures on their smart phones with their filthy loving hands.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Fury Wu Kong wishes to talk to you



Things I didn't expect from GoF: treasure chests you dismantle for crafting materials; being able to click on the map (or the minimap) to have the character walk to that point.

And this kind of magic

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

The Taint Reaper posted:

I just wish it wasn't a 90 dollar videogame for the whole campaign.

The little :filez: fairy whispered to me that all 3 cart versions of the game are essentially the same size in blocks, including the special edition that contains all 3 versions on one cart, which is slightly bigger due to the 3rd scenario. This means that the carts for both Birthright and Conquest actually contain both parts of the game, with no way to load the other. I don't know if purchasing whichever cart you don't own as "DLC" downloads the full version of the game, or simply flags it as playable on your cart, but this is pretty much the definition of DLC that is available in the data but locked behind a pay wall.

I assume the DLC corresponds to the latter, to give it the illusion of needing to actually be downloaded, when in reality you have it the entire time.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


BabyRyoga posted:

The little :filez: fairy whispered to me that all 3 cart versions of the game are essentially the same size in blocks, including the special edition that contains all 3 versions on one cart, which is slightly bigger due to the 3rd scenario. This means that the carts for both Birthright and Conquest actually contain both parts of the game, with no way to load the other. I don't know if purchasing whichever cart you don't own as "DLC" downloads the full version of the game, or simply flags it as playable on your cart, but this is pretty much the definition of DLC that is available in the data but locked behind a pay wall.

I assume the DLC corresponds to the latter, to give it the illusion of needing to actually be downloaded, when in reality you have it the entire time.

Well they share most of the assets so of course the other game isn't going to be a large download. That should be obvious.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

BabyRyoga posted:

The little :filez: fairy whispered to me that all 3 cart versions of the game are essentially the same size in blocks, including the special edition that contains all 3 versions on one cart, which is slightly bigger due to the 3rd scenario. This means that the carts for both Birthright and Conquest actually contain both parts of the game, with no way to load the other. I don't know if purchasing whichever cart you don't own as "DLC" downloads the full version of the game, or simply flags it as playable on your cart, but this is pretty much the definition of DLC that is available in the data but locked behind a pay wall.

I assume the DLC corresponds to the latter, to give it the illusion of needing to actually be downloaded, when in reality you have it the entire time.

The little files fairy is kind of dumb. The reason why the download is fairly small is that they share a ton of assets. This is not particularly surprising as the other side, including its characters, appears as enemies on the path split of your choice.

Also this isn't a ~magical files~ thing considering they literally show you the download size if you purchase the second route. It's about 780 blocks which is IIRC a little less than 100 MB and probably primarily taken up by the script and the route-exclusive cutscenes since the two games otherwise share most assets in some fashion or another.

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Feb 27, 2016

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time
The real, actual little :filez: fairy whispered to me that just forcibly enabling Revelations in a Birthright or Conquest game will actually cause the game to freeze up immediately after you finish the chapter in which you make the choice, so that theory is bullshit :v: It's just that the majority of the file size of a game is, surprise, visual and audio assets.

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

The real, actual little :filez: fairy whispered to me that just forcibly enabling Revelations in a Birthright or Conquest game will actually cause the game to freeze up immediately after you finish the chapter in which you make the choice, so that theory is bullshit :v: It's just that the majority of the file size of a game is, surprise, visual and audio assets.

Revelations actually needs to be downloaded. I'm saying that Birthright/Conquest are the same cartridge.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

BabyRyoga posted:

Revelations actually needs to be downloaded. I'm saying that Birthright/Conquest are the same cartridge.

Do you have any actual proof of this or are you just assuming based off similar file size?

Because, again, that isn't actually meaningful. Both games share the same assets. The cast of Birthright appear as enemies in Conquest and vice-versa and all the models, animations, and so-on are shared between both games. (Not to mention the castles which allow you to see and fight other people's party members.)

I mean yeah, the game was probably designed to have as much overlap as possible specifically so they can sell the second part with minimal download size. This'd probably be a bigger issue if each individual part wasn't a fully-featured Fire Emblem game on its own merits.

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Feb 27, 2016

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


ImpAtom posted:

Do you have any actual proof of this or are you just assuming based off similar file size?

Because, again, that isn't actually meaningful. Both games share the same assets. The cast of Birthright appear as enemies in Awakening and vice-versa and all the models, animations, and so-on are shared between both games. (Not to mention the castles which allow you to see and fight other people's party members.)

Yeah, the things that are actually different in Conquest, like writing and map design, are not thing that take a lot of space.

Also, why wouldn't they have both games on the same cartridge? If anything that would just make it easier for people since they don't need to download extra stuff to get the other campaign.

Looper
Mar 1, 2012

BabyRyoga posted:

The little :filez: fairy whispered to me that all 3 cart versions of the game are essentially the same size in blocks, including the special edition that contains all 3 versions on one cart, which is slightly bigger due to the 3rd scenario. This means that the carts for both Birthright and Conquest actually contain both parts of the game, with no way to load the other. I don't know if purchasing whichever cart you don't own as "DLC" downloads the full version of the game, or simply flags it as playable on your cart, but this is pretty much the definition of DLC that is available in the data but locked behind a pay wall.

I assume the DLC corresponds to the latter, to give it the illusion of needing to actually be downloaded, when in reality you have it the entire time.

lol

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

This is not what it looks like, I swear.



RPG moms are awkward and terrifying. And tough.





And that's a hardcore skill to put on a squishy mage character.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Out of curiosity, would I be spoiling myself on anything major in either Trails in the Sky games by jumping ahead to Trails of Cold Steel?

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Out of curiosity, would I be spoiling myself on anything major in either Trails in the Sky games by jumping ahead to Trails of Cold Steel?

Yes. There's a lot of oblique references to events in TitS and at least one major (if somewhat predictable) twist is spoiled straight up.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

ImpAtom posted:

Yes. There's a lot of oblique references to events in TitS and at least one major (if somewhat predictable) twist is spoiled straight up.

drat. Guess I'm breaking out my PSP after all then.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

You can play them on Vita too. Or just play the PC versions and enable a speedhack via Cheat Engine if the battles aren't doing it for you.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
So uh, playing some more Shadow Hearts: From the New World and I just saw Frank make himself a new weapon. By ripping up a bus stop sign and slapping a katana handle onto the base :suspense:.

Also holy crap, can't believe they actually went with an Independence Day reference in Area 51 :allears:

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

So uh, playing some more Shadow Hearts: From the New World and I just saw Frank make himself a new weapon. By ripping up a bus stop sign and slapping a katana handle onto the base :suspense:.
Still a tame weapon by his standards. Or by the standards of a certain wrestler vampire.



Found you!



:negative:

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

This game looks adorable.

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


Bravely Second is incredibly silly and I like it a lot.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Great, I just broke the economy of Gate of Firmament. It's available immediately after you unlock crafting, have some starter cash and a shop nearby.

Get the recipe for revival pill. It needs 1 of basic HP and MP healing items.

Buy the ingredients (cost 100 each), craft the pill, sell the pill (sell price 500). 300 profit isn't much, but the GUI allows batch purchases, batch crafting and batch sales, so you can just make 50 of those things in one go.



Aslo, there's a wild Mr. TG in the nearby mountains. Dangdang



He doesn't snatch you right there - he puts you on the list and waits for the night.

Ah, bugger. You do want to do the money exploit because the combat AI will use the party items when they run out of health or mana.

SelenicMartian fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Feb 27, 2016

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
So in the last hour or so of Shadow Hearts: From the New World I have done and/or seen the following;


  • Rescued a bulimic vampire girl from Area 51
  • Met HP Lovecraft had him pull monsters out of Johnny's memories
  • Been captured by Caribbean pirates lead by a small child
  • Seen Hilda get poked with a knife the size of said small child where no knife should ever go
  • Watched Frank make a new sword by cramming a katana handle into the back end of a dead Marlin
  • Come away from the piratical adventure aboard a ghost ship with Shania getting a tramp stamp.


I love this goddamn game. Are the first two Shadown Hearts this insane? :munch:

Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Feb 27, 2016

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world


No they're incredibly depressing

Thuryl
Mar 14, 2007

My postillion has been struck by lightning.
They both have a lot of comedic moments but yeah, the overall arc of the story in the first two games is bittersweet at best.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Each one steps up the crazy a little more, the first one still has its moments, though it's more serious.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

ImpAtom posted:

Do you have any actual proof of this or are you just assuming based off similar file size?

Because, again, that isn't actually meaningful. Both games share the same assets. The cast of Birthright appear as enemies in Conquest and vice-versa and all the models, animations, and so-on are shared between both games. (Not to mention the castles which allow you to see and fight other people's party members.)

I mean yeah, the game was probably designed to have as much overlap as possible specifically so they can sell the second part with minimal download size. This'd probably be a bigger issue if each individual part wasn't a fully-featured Fire Emblem game on its own merits.

The download for the other campaign is ~100 MBs which makes me suspect the FMVs and majority of the audio for both campaigns is already on the cartridge but not the whole thing.

Revelations is allegedly around the same size as well (at least it was in Japan) but as it does recycle most of its maps (with changed gimmicks/objectives) from the other 2 campaigns that's not surprising.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
This Chinese game is adorable. How's the gameplay?

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


Mokinokaro posted:

but as it does recycle most of its maps

No it doesn't.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
Which version of Fire Emblem Fates lets you catch Oddish? I freaking love Oddishes.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Mokinokaro posted:

The download for the other campaign is ~100 MBs which makes me suspect the FMVs and majority of the audio for both campaigns is already on the cartridge but not the whole thing.

Revelations is allegedly around the same size as well (at least it was in Japan) but as it does recycle most of its maps (with changed gimmicks/objectives) from the other 2 campaigns that's not surprising.

Half the maps in Revelations are in a completely new dimension so no. Please don't refer to that terrible reddit chart if you are.

Looper
Mar 1, 2012

Getsuya posted:

Which version of Fire Emblem Fates lets you catch Oddish? I freaking love Oddishes.

birthright

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Getsuya posted:

Which version of Fire Emblem Fates lets you catch Oddish? I freaking love Oddishes.

You and I, we can be friends.

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wateyad
Nov 17, 2007

The power of the Outsider is

...dat ass
:yosbutt:

DACK FAYDEN posted:

This Chinese game is adorable. How's the gameplay?

Combat is real time but not action based. Allies are AI controlled but you can switch who you're controlling at any time. It's kind of MMO-y but there are no auto attacks (or manual movement) and there's this system where you have two regular attack buttons one of which puts you onto the next combo stage and the other of which does a combo ender that has effects based on what combo stage you were on which, combined with everything actually triggering hit react animations, makes things feel a bit more like stuff is actually happening than that sort of system can sometimes. There's also a system where you can change the element of the battlefield to the element of any of your party members and each element gives different party wide buffs and I think a there's one or two more combat mechanics that I haven't gotten far enough to fiddle with yet.

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