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its all nice on rice
Nov 12, 2006

Sweet, Salty Goodness.



Buglord
Handguards or no handguards on my new naked?

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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Hand guards, they look badass on all bikes

windex and beer
Apr 9, 2007
49er Fanatic
Go with the handguards, cause why not?

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
I was literally just having this conversation with a friend about their naked literbike. The conclusion was that it would look mean as all get out, plus the obvious protection and moose mitt compatible advantages.


Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Hand guards, they look badass on all bikes

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Do hand guards do anything to protect the bike? I just bought a new fz07 and I'm in 'add sliders to every surface of the bike' mode

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
if they're barkbuster type with actual armor bends and then the shield bolted on then they'll do a pretty good job protecting the control levers and throttle and to a minor degree act as bar end sliders

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
At the very least, when you have a mild crash you can avoid breaking levers and have a higher chance of limping home. Levers are basically breakaway on impact, and handling a bike without a clutch is no fun. Plus they protect from some wind and keep your hands warmer. You can also put mitts over them for the winter.

Looks great, too. :getin:

Coydog fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Feb 24, 2016

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Bad pic, but it's true. Handguards own.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard


I think they're pretty useless for weather protection when you need it, and block wind when you need that. And at least with the factory Ulysses guards, they break away and rotate off the lever pretty easily so I wouldn't rely on them in a crash.

its all nice on rice
Nov 12, 2006

Sweet, Salty Goodness.



Buglord
Well that's an easy decision then. All that remains is brand/style.
I can get the black, Trackside (cyclegear brand) bark busters with full bars and everything for $25, or order up some Cycras or Acerbis. Would definitely remove those Trackside stickers, though.
http://www.cyclegear.com/TRACKSIDE-Aluminum-Handguard-Kit-with-Shields

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I run these: https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1036/9533/Tusk-Aluminum-Handguards

They are minimalistic, beefy as hell (you could seriously hang the bike from them without bending them), cheap, and tusk makes larger guards that bolt on to them that will block wind if you want that as well

Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

IT ME



Toilet Rascal

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

I run these: https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1036/9533/Tusk-Aluminum-Handguards

They are minimalistic, beefy as hell (you could seriously hang the bike from them without bending them), cheap, and tusk makes larger guards that bolt on to them that will block wind if you want that as well

:hfive: That's exactly what I had on my last bike too, they worked great protecting the handlebars on my klr from going down off-road

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

can someone recommend a frame / spool / fork slider brand for the FZ-07? I want to go with the same brand for all three if possible

Shimrod
Apr 15, 2007

race tires on road are a great idea, ask me!

Shogun

VERTiG0
Jul 11, 2001

go move over bro

A MIRACLE posted:

can someone recommend a frame / spool / fork slider brand for the FZ-07? I want to go with the same brand for all three if possible

A lot of guys like the One Eleven Sportbike (OES) setup. Comes in a handy kit (at the bottom): http://www.oesaccessories.com/2015-2016FZ-07.html

Or buy all the Woodcraft stuff.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

VERTiG0 posted:

A lot of guys like the One Eleven Sportbike (OES) setup. Comes in a handy kit (at the bottom): http://www.oesaccessories.com/2015-2016FZ-07.html

Or buy all the Woodcraft stuff.

Thanks this is exactly what I was looking for! Can't wait to crash this beast

hit the bricks pal!
Jan 12, 2009
So I'm having a little trouble getting my bike started. With everything off the battery is at 12.6 and drops to 10.5 when I hit the starter button. Is this an acceptable range? For what it's worth I've put new sparkplugs in, there's gas in the tank, it's not the side stand/clutch switch, and it's only been sitting for a month.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
RIP Battery.

hit the bricks pal!
Jan 12, 2009
I thought 12.6 was acceptable as a resting charge? What should it be when I hit the starter? 12 still?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

brotastrophe posted:

I thought 12.6 was acceptable as a resting charge? What should it be when I hit the starter? 12 still?

12.6 is fine as a resting charge, but with no load the battery will always float back up to that value unless it's truly and completely dead.

The amount that the battery drops when the starter is pulling its current will vary with the size of the battery, the starter motor, the engine compression, etc. But in general a new battery will drop less than 1v (so 11.6) under that load. 2v is pushing it. If it's below 10 volts when cranking, the battery is pretty much shot.

That said, if your charging system is good, you can get away with a lovely battery for way longer than you'd expect. The battery in my car is technically dead according to the tester at the mechanic's, and I can kill it to a non-starting state if I leave the headlights on for half an hour, but it still starts the car just fine every time so I'm now just kind of morbidly curious to see how long I can keep it for.

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.
So I unfortunately have not been able to ride too much this winter, my bike is not for commuting its for fun and I have been super busy.

I keep my bike totally covered but I noticed today that 1) it has accumulated a lot of "hard dust" and 2) it has developed rust spots all over the metal parts of the bike (handle bar, fender etc).

So obviously I imagine to take care of the dust a damp wash cloth should do fine but what should I do about the rust spots?

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
A damp wash cloth/scotchbrite pad will probably also do for the rust, as it's most likely just surface rust.

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Knifegrab posted:

So obviously I imagine to take care of the dust a damp wash cloth should do fine but what should I do about the rust spots?

Rub the rust spots with aluminium foil. Be amazed.

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires

HotCanadianChick posted:

Rub the rust spots with aluminium foil. Be amazed.

Don't do this on parts that aren't chromed!

ChaosReaper
Feb 19, 2005
When a man lies he murders some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home?

How much wind is it just unsafe to ride in? I know it's probably a whatever l feel is safe answer but I had probably the worst riding experience of my 8 months experience yesterday in winds that were gusting to like 35. I ride a Ninja 650 and felt like I had to hard lean just to try and stay on a straight path and even then I was still getting blown all over the road. The Harley riders I was with basically thought it was funny and that I was just being a pussy since I'm still so mostly new. I've ridden in sort of high winds before but I usually keep it to cities or short rides during that time. Is it just an experience thing or will winds that high just be a problem for a bike like mine?

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Gusty winds are way worse, since they hit you out of nowhere and force you to compensate randomly. Constant winds are easier in that regard.

Unfortunately, you are correct, it's all about what you're comfortable with. As with most things regarding modern tire technology, you'd probably be shocked at how much crosswind they can take before they lose traction (probably close to tornado weather), but unfortunately, this is something that is very tough to test, and there is no conclusive data on, as far as I'm aware.

Obviously, as you found, it depends on a few things, primarily is bike weight/height, which is why the Harley's were mostly unfazed while your ninja was getting thrown around. Then there is road conditions, I would be much more worried about gusty wind if it was combined with a wet road. Then there is rider skill as well, if you ride in a lot of wind frequently, you get used to it and it gets easier. This is the part you have some control over.

So it really does boil down to :iiam: mostly

Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch
The trick with wind (like just about everything else on bikes) is to stay loose.

hit the bricks pal!
Jan 12, 2009
Alright this is driving me crazy. Can't get my bike started. Battery is ok (took it to advance and it tested fine). I can get a spark, fuel pump sounds like it's working, it's cranking so it's not a side stand/clutch sensor or something and it's only been like 2 weeks since it ran. Only thing I can think of that I messed with was when I rerouted the throttle cables for new handlebars. Am I missing something stupidly simple here?

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
what make/model/year bike

my advice for these situations is: starting fluid. Hit it with the ether and see what the results are.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

Marxalot posted:

The trick with wind (like just about everything else on bikes) is to stay loose.

Stay loose and put your weight on the windy side to compensate. I've even stuck a leg out like a sail to pull the bike to one side but keep myself going straight. Like ol silly balls said, it's the gusts that are the scary bit, but if you stay loose and don't worry about it blowing you around a bit, it's not so bad.

hit the bricks pal!
Jan 12, 2009

EX250 Type R posted:

what make/model/year bike

my advice for these situations is: starting fluid. Hit it with the ether and see what the results are.

07 sv650

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

nsaP posted:

Stay loose and put your weight on the windy side to compensate. I've even stuck a leg out like a sail to pull the bike to one side but keep myself going straight. Like ol silly balls said, it's the gusts that are the scary bit, but if you stay loose and don't worry about it blowing you around a bit, it's not so bad.

Yeah. Use your leg as a sail on the side the wind is coming from. Works well.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
That's a shame, if it had been a GSXR, then your username would have delivered in this situation.

Try spraying some flammable poo poo in the intake while cranking to see if it's a fuel issue?

hit the bricks pal!
Jan 12, 2009

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

That's a shame, if it had been a GSXR, then your username would have delivered in this situation.

Try spraying some flammable poo poo in the intake while cranking to see if it's a fuel issue?

No luck there

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

If you're getting fuel (or something flammable) into the cylinders and your spark is fine, I think the only thing left is "timing badly hosed up" or "no compression."

Take out a spark plug, press your finger over the hole, and crank the engine. Does it blow your finger off with a loud POP? Do that for both cylinders.

My bet is that it's electrical, though, just because every time the first guess is fuel, it's actually electrics and vice versa.

e: dumb question maybe, but when you redid your throttle grip, did you mess with the killswitch wiring at all?

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Kill switch? Since you played with the throttle and presumably the throttle housing, did something get messed up in there?

E:same as above

If it didn't start after you sprayed ether or carb cleaner or whatever in the intake, AND you have spark, you either don't actually have spark, or something pretty serious is going on. Since you have a relatively new SV, im going to say it's not catastrophically failing unless it has a trillion miles or you beat the absolute snot out of it for those trillion miles.

I'm betting you have something much more simple that is going on. Start by examining the kill switch.

Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Feb 28, 2016

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

I'm betting you have something much more simple that is going on. Start by examining the kill switch.

For example, it may be in the "off" position.

hit the bricks pal!
Jan 12, 2009
If the kill switch was on it wouldn't be cranking at all. Same with clutch or kick stand sensor. That's why this is frustrating!

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Many (most?) bikes will still crank with the kill switch off. Mine certainly does. It just disables the ignition system.

Are you sure the spark is good and strong? How did you test it? You can verify that it's strong enough by pouring some gasoline in a bucket, putting the spark plug down in there on its lead, and cranking the motor for a while. If it blows up, you're good to go.

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Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

Sagebrush posted:

Many (most?) bikes will still crank with the kill switch off. Mine certainly does. It just disables the ignition system.

Are you sure the spark is good and strong? How did you test it? You can verify that it's strong enough by pouring some gasoline in a bucket, putting the spark plug down in there on its lead, and cranking the motor for a while. If it blows up, you're good to go.

Neither of mine do anything when you hit the killswitch. No starter noise, nothing.



Do you own a buell?

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