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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

There's a market board in every city.

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Augus
Mar 9, 2015


theblackw0lf posted:

Wait where do you buy craftable gear? I could never find a market.

Any of the 3 major starting cities will have a player market board right by the NPC Market area.

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

Xenoveritas posted:



Requesting that the next thread title be "FINAL FANTASY XIV: Go and pick up the drat rocks."

There's no shortage of self-aware humor in the game but I particularly like this bit.

nuru
Oct 10, 2012

Did the ixali end up giving materia?

Skaw
Aug 5, 2004

nuru posted:

Did the ixali end up giving materia?

Nope. Ixal and Vanu don't give out materia.

nuru
Oct 10, 2012

Go figure, the only ones I have leveled

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

How can you tell what's physical damage and what's magic damage? ACT somehow knows because it shows up in the parse, but where does it get that information?

jwang
Mar 31, 2013
Usually, if it's fire/ice/lightning/earth/elemental/lasers, it's considered magic of some sort. Anything that involves smashing, cutting, whipping, or whatnot, can be considered physical. Another good way to tell if it's physical or not is to use sheltron. If it gets blocked, it's physical. If it doesn't, it's magical.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
It's pretty accurate to common sense IE 'this thing actually hit me it must deal physical damage!'
That includes bullets.

Not energy bullets, that's magic. Regular bullets are physical.

Truth
Feb 24, 2005
Leveling up a lancer right now, and will be transferring it soon to Excalibur. I was wondering if I should try out any caster classes as well since dragoons are so overplayed? Everything I read said caster leveling is harder, but I am just not sure. Black Mage, summoner, and white mage looked kind of dope.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

Truth posted:

Leveling up a lancer right now, and will be transferring it soon to Excalibur. I was wondering if I should try out any caster classes as well since dragoons are so overplayed? Everything I read said caster leveling is harder, but I am just not sure. Black Mage, summoner, and white mage looked kind of dope.

Play what you like! Don't be afraid to try out something different. I've gone back and forth between a few myself. It's much easier now to try out alts, especially with the increased armory bonus in HW and the ring earned from the Novice challenges.

BLM, DRG, and SMN are all straightforward until 50. BLM has the highest complexity of those, while SMN and DRG are more clockwork/forgiving.

Even if DRGs are overplayed (which I don't believe they are), it's because they're a quite good class. And it still takes some skill to play well. A good DRG is welcome in most situations - good single target damage, adequate AoE (if lacking in sustainability), excellent burst. Really the differences between the classes will matter only in niche situations, like endgame raiding. There's a whole lot to do outside of that.

One thing to keep in mind - if you level ACN (which leads to SMN), you also get a healer in SCH.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Dragoon is great and so is warrior. All the jobs are good try them all and have fun.

vOv
Feb 8, 2014



loving finally.

ilifinicus
Mar 7, 2004



crafting being the dumbest poo poo ever since 3.0 is ruining relics please send help yoshida

Truth
Feb 24, 2005
I definitely will try a whole bunch, it's just that with closed character creation I have to be much choosier I guess.

Tenik
Jun 23, 2010


Not really. Once you do the level 15 mainstory quest, you can travel to all of the major towns and unlock all of the not-3.0 classes. You can try all of them, and play what you enjoy.

Dr. John Zoidberg
Aug 11, 2008

Truth posted:

I definitely will try a whole bunch, it's just that with closed character creation I have to be much choosier I guess.

You can play all jobs on one character, there's no need to make multiples.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you
Bear in mind that when most people say "alts", they mean switching jobs/classes on the same character. I have an alt character for extra banking, but most people will never need one.

Truth
Feb 24, 2005

Dr. John Zoidberg posted:

You can play all jobs on one character, there's no need to make multiples.

Fair enough, and I can try out the different classes/jobs at any time? IE: I can go switch to a whm right now if I want to?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Truth posted:

Fair enough, and I can try out the different classes/jobs at any time? IE: I can go switch to a whm right now if I want to?

If you have the class unlocked all you have to do is equip that class' weapon and bam, class change (as long as you aren't in a duty or in combat). Most people make a little hotbar and drop gearset icons onto it for quick changes.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you
Once you hit level 10 and get permission from your first class trainer, you can do the intro quests for other classes to unlock. Switching is as easy as changing weapons, though (as above) people usually use pre-saved gearsets.

Truth
Feb 24, 2005

kirbysuperstar posted:

If you have the class unlocked all you have to do is equip that class' weapon and bam, class change (as long as you aren't in a duty or in combat). Most people make a little hotbar and drop gearset icons onto it for quick changes.

Thanks, isn't it a problem with stat allocation though? If I'm switching from say a lancer to a thaum, won't the points I put in strength be useless?

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Dr. John Zoidberg posted:

You can play all jobs on one character, there's no need to make multiples.

Yeah, that's my favorite feature of this game; you can do whatever the gently caress you want and you don't have to worry about starting over (except that you have to start at level 1, but I mean you don't lose all the worldly belongings you've acquired on your character). I have chronic alt-itis, and this game is just perfect for people like me. Something in the game looks cool? Try it! A single character can do literally everything the game has to offer (except for specialist crafting, which I've decided I don't care about).

Casters are neat; I find summoner really unsatisfying until level 60, when it suddenly rules hard, but black mage is pretty fun at all levels; just be prepared to learn a whole new rotation every other time you learn a new ability, and then try to quickly remember it when you level sync into a new dungeon. It's not hard, hard, but it's not quite as brainless as the leveling experience on some other classes. And honestly even if you do gently caress it up, low level dungeons are so easy it doesn't matter if you aren't playing optimally.


Truth posted:

Thanks, isn't it a problem with stat allocation though? If I'm switching from say a lancer to a thaum, won't the points I put in strength be useless?

Nope. Your bonus stats are tied to the class, not your character, so you can invest them anew for each one.

The only one that sooorta struggles here is ACN because the bonus stats apply to both SCH and SMN but it A) doesn't matter that much and B) is really easy to change with a cheap item you can buy from GC vendors.

Tenik
Jun 23, 2010


Those are only for the class you are currently on. If you level to 60 on DRG, and switch to WHM, you won't get any bonus stats from your DRG. There is literally no downsides to playing multiple classes/jobs.

Skaw
Aug 5, 2004
The effect of the bonus stats is also incredibly small in the new end game, where 210 had main stats in the 1070-1100 range. It's pushing the point where the 35 bonus attributes are becoming about as much as half of an accessory.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Toilet Rascal
The only thing is that you usually *should* pick a main class when you hit 60 because of the top tomestone limit of 450 a week. Dump it all into one class and use the secondary tomestones for your alt class.

For example, I main SCH, so all my new gear from tomestones and raiding goes to that, but I keep a tank at i210 for running dungeons with a quick queue, and also a melee / support / caster class should people be recruiting for it.

Edit: I realized this advice is geared towards brand new people and they won't be at this stage for awhile. But in the end it's not hard to gear yourself up with relative ease.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
So with the tank changes, what stat should attribute points be put in now?

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Verranicus posted:

So with the tank changes, what stat should attribute points be put in now?
VIT and STR give the same amount to damage, and one also gives bonus HP.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Verranicus posted:

So with the tank changes, what stat should attribute points be put in now?


DACK FAYDEN posted:

VIT and STR give the same amount to damage, and one also gives bonus HP.

So dump them in VIT, because more HP is always a good thing for tanks.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

I just finished Antitower. Regarding the cutscene after it:

The dialogue right after where they talk about Minfilia being out of power to keep herself together pretty much confirms she's not going anywhere. I don't know how anyone could have expected her to be done. Minfilia the mortal hyur might be gone but we'll probably be seeing plenty of her.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
I messed up part of my UI. I tried out the new "everything at 150%" setting and, as expected, it was laughably large. So I set it back to 100% and specifically the Status Effects bar is now tiny. I can't fix it in the HUD settings or anything. Anyone know how to fix that?

Klades
Sep 8, 2011

Aphrodite posted:

I just finished Antitower. Regarding the cutscene after it:

The dialogue right after where they talk about Minfilia being out of power to keep herself together pretty much confirms she's not going anywhere. I don't know how anyone could have expected her to be done. Minfilia the mortal hyur might be gone but we'll probably be seeing plenty of her.

For all intents and purposes, Minfilia is super dead. Really dead. The character that made us run all the way to her stupid office just for a chat and never did anything cool is dead. I'm sure we'll end up seeing more of Minfilia V3.0 but I will be disappointed if she ends up being more of the same as before.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Klades posted:

For all intents and purposes, Minfilia is super dead. Really dead. The character that made us run all the way to her stupid office just for a chat and never did anything cool is dead. I'm sure we'll end up seeing more of Minfilia V3.0 but I will be disappointed if she ends up being more of the same as before.

For now anyway. I'll be shocked if the expansion doesn't end with her revived.

MohShuvuu
Aug 26, 2010

I eat ass.
Yay, A5S down! :D

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
It's not very fun to see our main dude be a complete chump in every cutscene. It's also not fun to relive the part of FFIII that tortures me deep within. Having 24 people in a raid is pretty cool though. Those bosses must have like a million health. This was well worth the wait.

Crystal Tower is cool as poo poo and I'm glad I finally popped it today and did them all. Now the only thing left is the last 2 turns of Final Coil and we're off to the HW races.

SonicRulez fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Feb 28, 2016

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
Well 12 hours of gameplay later and I went from item lvl 145 to lvl 166 :)

Ignimbrite
Jan 5, 2010

BALLS BALLS BALLS
Dinosaur Gum
Good job, 4 more ilvls and you'll start getting more gear even more quickly.

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

Got back to leveling MCH and forgot how fun it is. The allure of having a job at 60 that can share 99% of my main job's gear is strong.

Currently 42 and ran a Stone Vigil and kept pretty neck and neck with the DRG, out-DPSing him on bosses. I can only guess this is a good sign for my abilities with MCH so far.

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

The other thing to keep in mind is that gearing up alts is way easier because you'll have so many spare tomes lying around from doing roulettes on your main.

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ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

YoshiOfYellow posted:

Got back to leveling MCH and forgot how fun it is. The allure of having a job at 60 that can share 99% of my main job's gear is strong.

Currently 42 and ran a Stone Vigil and kept pretty neck and neck with the DRG, out-DPSing him on bosses. I can only guess this is a good sign for my abilities with MCH so far.

How much more damage does MCH give out compared to BRD endgame, actually? I don't really know the numbers. I've got both of them not too far apart (MCH at 49, BRD at 53) so I could just focus on one of them once I get MNK/AST to 60.

BRD is a bit more fun for me at the moment, but I haven't gotten the (ugly) Gauss Barrel yet.

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