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blastron posted:Yes, but what is its alignment? Awful goontral.
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sebmojo posted:this thread can and has been every bit as retardedly autistic as the gitp baseline This man is a liar.
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Feb 27, 2016 14:20
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This thread peaks at GitP's baseline.
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Cat Mattress posted:He's a sword wizard. A swizord. Swozard? Or basically an Earthdawn-swordmaster, mixed with a bit of warrior. A swordwarrior. (Because I didn't know about weapons of legacy, I just saw that description of releasing an ancient weapon's true power and it reminded me of Earthdawn. All magic weapons in Earthdawn work like that, minus the drawbacks. In Earthdawn, basically everyone is a caster.)
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Colonel Cool posted:This thread peaks at GitP's baseline. I was gonna say, I've yet to see "shipping," over-elaborate attempts to generate character sheets for the entire cast, or railing against "SJWs" here.
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Colonel Cool posted:This thread peaks at GitP's baseline. Yeah. Some parts of GITP are basically ok, though not the oots bits. it's also the host for silverclawshifts astonishing 3.5 campaign AAR. I think my peak GITP experience was someone having a full-on autistic shitfit over how V's power level was higher than Xykon's and so she should have beaten him. It went on for dozens of pages.
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sebmojo posted:I think my peak GITP experience was someone having a full-on autistic shitfit over how V's power level was higher than Xykon's and so she should have beaten him. It went on for dozens of pages. I remember when I was reading that section at the time that I couldn't believe how stupid V was being for the sake of ego, it's always good to be reminded how realistic that really is.
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Wanderer posted:I was gonna say, I've yet to see "shipping," over-elaborate attempts to generate character sheets for the entire cast, or railing against "SJWs" here. Well, there's no need for much shipping when the comic makes it so obvious that Elan is going to end up with V. I mean come on, the subtext is right there. 
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sebmojo posted:Yeah. Wait you mean he tried to argue that even after Xykon goes on a long-rear end rant about why V lost?
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AnoHito posted:Wait you mean he tried to argue that even after Xykon goes on a long-rear end rant about why V lost? I don't remember, it probably happened between strips.
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AnoHito posted:Wait you mean he tried to argue that even after Xykon goes on a long-rear end rant about why V lost? It's almost like the V made bad choices because s/he is kind of an idiot, especially then.
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He was outraged that Rich had allowed a more powerful character to lose, iirc. It was p pure strain crazy, I'll see if I can find it.
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AnoHito posted:Wait you mean he tried to argue that even after Xykon goes on a long-rear end rant about why V lost? Knowing GitP, probably.
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Speaking of the forums, my least favorite part of the comic is probably the strips that basically directly address whatever nits at which the forum happens to pick. Most recently being the strip where Durkula explained that he could totally spider climb onto the ceiling and had consciously decided to fight Roy anyway. I understand that they make fans happy(er) and save Rich some headache, but they still jar.
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For a comic that started off as a string of jokes about the mechanics of 3.5, it makes sense that he would still be concerned about keeping things very consistent within some set of rules. Ergo, he is damned to a career of putting something in a strip that is dramatically effective, reading his forums and finding out that there are REASONS why that wouldn't be allowed in the apparent rules, pounding on his desk and yelling, "God dammit," and resolving to explain why that totally would work at some point in the future.
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Wanderer posted:I was gonna say, I've yet to see "shipping," over-elaborate attempts to generate character sheets for the entire cast, or railing against "SJWs" here. We totally got someone butthurt about how Rich is pandering to  the LGBT Tumblrites by having some characters be something other than heterosexual.
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Whybird posted:We totally got someone butthurt about how Rich is pandering to Well, there's this wonderful tweet: https://twitter.com/RichBurlew/status/526723527236648960
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Ok, show of hands: Who here, on seeing the first panel where we see Vaarsuvius' partner and their adopted children referring to them as Parent and Other Parent, who here did not conclude that V is a male elf married to another male elf? Did anyone here have any first impression different from that? I know you can look back after the fact and say that technically technically technically they could be non-binary or masculine females which is getting away from my point altogether, but did anyone that's been reading this comic and now finds themselves reading this post look at those two together in panel and try to discern which one was the male husband and which one was the female wife?
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I always saw Vaarsuvius' partner as part of the running thing with V. that they're ambiguously gendered. They could be a gay couple, a lesbian couple, a straight couple where V. is the man, a straight couple where V. is the woman, and which one it is doesn't actually matter in the slightest.
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I just assumed it was a continuation of the indeterminate gender joke.
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Yeah, pretty much; by that point the fact that elves are of indeterminate gender was so well established that I just rolled with it. At most I thought "okay so it's not just Vaarsuvius".
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That strip had the "dialogue translated from elvish for the reader's benefit" thing going on, so I took "Parent" and "Other Parent" as an indication that elves just don't give a poo poo what gender someone is, to the point that their language doesn't even have gender-specific words for parents that would translate to mother or father. That was the best that the hypothetical translator could do.
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I guess I should clarify what I was getting at. Even though it's not spelled out in the text and even though the author won't ruin an ongoing joke by spelling it out to anyone on twitter, the forum, etc., we had every visual indication that a gay married couple was in the strip years ago, and for someone to be going off about a lesbian character now is just dense.
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V and zher partner have what seem to be their bioligical children, so I assume they are a hetero couple. On the other hand, I know nothing of elf biology.
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Endless Mike posted:V and zher partner have what seem to be their bioligical children, so I assume they are a hetero couple. On the other hand, I know nothing of elf biology. Pretty sure their kids were confirmed to be adopted.
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Always took V to be male based solely on "us girls and the elf" from one of the early strips and thus his "partner" to be female. Them being gay never crossed my mind before now but would be a good punchline to the running gag about genderless elves.
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Wulfolme posted:Ok, show of hands: Who here, on seeing the first panel where we see Vaarsuvius' partner and their adopted children referring to them as Parent and Other Parent, who here did not conclude that V is a male elf married to another male elf? Did anyone here have any first impression different from that? I know you can look back after the fact and say that technically technically technically they could be non-binary or masculine females which is getting away from my point altogether, but did anyone that's been reading this comic and now finds themselves reading this post look at those two together in panel and try to discern which one was the male husband and which one was the female wife? I didn't try to discern their genders at all, because it was very clear you weren't supposed to.
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Wulfolme posted:Ok, show of hands: Who here, on seeing the first panel where we see Vaarsuvius' partner and their adopted children referring to them as Parent and Other Parent, who here did not conclude that V is a male elf married to another male elf? Did anyone here have any first impression different from that? I know you can look back after the fact and say that technically technically technically they could be non-binary or masculine females which is getting away from my point altogether, but did anyone that's been reading this comic and now finds themselves reading this post look at those two together in panel and try to discern which one was the male husband and which one was the female wife? Definitely thought V and his partner were gay married elf guys. Of course a species that lives hundreds of years is going to be ahead of the curve on civil rights. Besides, Burlew has a distinctive way of drawing males vs females and he draws V as male whether "lol elves are androgynous" or not. Also he straight out said that all of the original OOTS except Haley were men.
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Network Pesci posted:Of course a species that lives hundreds of years is going to be ahead of the curve on civil rights. Yeah, when I think about what's holding back the progress of equal rights, I think it's that we don't have enough people old enough that they grew up with the racial and sexual mores of 1616.
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Network Pesci posted:Besides, Burlew has a distinctive way of drawing males vs females and he draws V as male whether "lol elves are androgynous" or not. Thank you.
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Even elves with an explicitly stated gender are drawn androgynously in the strip (except Lirien). I'm not sure why you think you can prove V's gender using subtle art hints or inferring from Burlew's statements when both the text of the comic and his posts make it abundantly clear that V and Inky are ambiguously gendered. Do you think Rich is dropping subtle hints that when we finally see the Monster in the Dark, it'll be alongside an equally mind blowing reveal that Vaarsuvius has a penis?Endless Mike posted:V and zher partner have what seem to be their bioligical children, so I assume they are a hetero couple. On the other hand, I know nothing of elf biology. Nope, V refers to the kids as "my adopted progeny." Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Feb 29, 2016 |
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V is actually drawn at a midpoint between the male and female style, for this exact reason. It's weird that people care so much though.
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Kajeesus posted:Nope, V refers to the kids as "my adopted progeny." I guess I missed that!
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sebmojo posted:this thread can and has been every bit as retardedly autistic as the gitp baseline
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Wulfolme posted:Ok, show of hands: Who here, on seeing the first panel where we see Vaarsuvius' partner and their adopted children referring to them as Parent and Other Parent, who here did not conclude that V is a male elf married to another male elf? Did anyone here have any first impression different from that? I know you can look back after the fact and say that technically technically technically they could be non-binary or masculine females which is getting away from my point altogether, but did anyone that's been reading this comic and now finds themselves reading this post look at those two together in panel and try to discern which one was the male husband and which one was the female wife? I thought V's partner was a woman and V was ambiguous (I tend to call her a she via a mental coin flip).
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Rygar201 posted:V is actually drawn at a midpoint between the male and female style, for this exact reason. It's weird that people care so much though. V was originally drawn in a robe that hid all curves, making him less "midpoint" and more "not applicable." The thing people are saying, that some of you seem to miss, is that its thought that V was originally created as male, and the "we're not going to say one way or another" thing came later, not that he is currently being depicted as male just with Rich being coy and dropping hints.
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Cliff Racer posted:V was originally drawn in a robe that hid all curves, making him less "midpoint" and more "not applicable." The thing people are saying, that some of you seem to miss, is that its thought that V was originally created as male, and the "we're not going to say one way or another" thing came later, not that he is currently being depicted as male just with Rich being coy and dropping hints. Yes, this was what I was about to say. V started off male, then apparently enough people on the forums were confused that Rich decided to just run with it and never give a clear answer, and we got one of the better running jokes. I tend to think of/refer to V as a he just for ease of referring to him, but the actual answer is there is no actual answer. V is a fictional character who's ambiguous because the author says so, and the point is it doesn't matter. I never understood all these people on the GiTP board trying to 'figure it out', Rich has made V's official status pretty clear for years now, it's not like if you look really hard at the panels you'll find a secret penis or whatever. Zoe fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Feb 29, 2016 |
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