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starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

fickle poofterist posted:

Noone lurks here its just you guys

Link to stories?

Just gruesome poo poo about apprentices being blown to poo poo or having their feet burnt off. Normal stuff.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 14:23

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# ? May 14, 2024 11:33

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Nothing says Queensland like burning your feet off with molten metals.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 14:35

Vladimir Poutine: Aug 13, 2012

Jumpingmanjim posted:

http://mumbrella.com.au/rip-channel-v-its-all-about-the-music-jabba-348885

Do people not realise that ice is just methamphetamine, a drug that has been around since the late 19th century and not some new thing?

# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:05

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Vladimir Poutine posted:

Do people not realise that ice is just methamphetamine, a drug that has been around since the late 19th century and not some new thing?

something can exist and not be a "thing" people know about because it's not ubiquitous

# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:11

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

starkebn posted:

something can exist and not be a "thing" people know about because it's not ubiquitous

I'm pretty sure ice was still a thing in the 90's.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:18

Vladimir Poutine: Aug 13, 2012

starkebn posted:

something can exist and not be a "thing" people know about because it's not ubiquitous

Yes, but basically everyone getting sucked into the current moral panic about ice knows what meth is

# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:38

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

you're either being willfully dense and just want to argue, or you need to learn to read things in the context of how it is written.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:42

Birb Katter: Sep 18, 2010; BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Vladimir Poutine posted:

Do people not realise that ice is just methamphetamine, a drug that has been around since the late 19th century and not some new thing?

Ice is scary, speed is friendly .

# ? Feb 28, 2016 15:45

lilbeefer: Oct 4, 2004

Without trucks, Australia stops

# ? Feb 28, 2016 16:03

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

fickle poofterist posted:

Without trucks, Australia stops

# ? Feb 28, 2016 16:08

Nibbles!: Jun 26, 2008; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please

BBJoey posted:

Don't they have multiple triggers available, though

Generally every government will be sitting on at least one. They're not really a special circumstance.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 16:15

The Peccadillo: Mar 4, 2013; We Have Important Work To Do

I am a mentally ill alcoholic, and I got disability 'til August, EAT IT TAX WHINERS

# ? Feb 28, 2016 16:17

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

The Peccadillo posted:

I am a mentally ill alcoholic, and I got disability 'til August, EAT IT TAX WHINERS

I'm glad you got support! I'm sad you are mentally ill and alcoholic, I hope those improve for you. They both suck.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 16:18

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/703937196785475584

:getin:

# ? Feb 28, 2016 16:36

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

starkebn posted:

something can exist and not be a "thing" people know about because it's not ubiquitous

like kale before hipsters

# ? Feb 28, 2016 19:55

Birb Katter: Sep 18, 2010; BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

You are a loving piece of poo poo and I have a suicide vest. March thread is up a day early because I have exams on tomorrow. It's full of Pavel. It's not work safe

# ? Feb 28, 2016 21:26

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

Birb Katter posted:

March thread is up a day early because I have exams on tomorrow.

Woke up to it being the 29th, so I was pleasantly surprised to find I have one more day to prepare for my exam. And exam which is at Doomben Racetrack of all places :shrug:

# ? Feb 28, 2016 21:52

SadisTech: Jun 26, 2013; Clem.

Shorten has penned an op-ed for the Guardian in favour of the Safe Schools program:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/29/bill-shorten-christensen-and-bernardi-remind-us-of-the-harm-words-can-do

I feel like I would if a discarded damp washcloth suddenly crawled out of the corner of the bathroom and started singing opera.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 00:55

Birb Katter: Sep 18, 2010; BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

I unclaim March. If I can't Pavel then you're not worth my time.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:06

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Birb Katter posted:

I unclaim March. If I can't Pavel then you're not worth my time.

ur gimmick sucks

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:12

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

*sigh*

quote:

Halo14 posted:
http://theaimn.com/turnbull-escalates-war-poor/

Turnbull Escalates War on the Poor

I fickin' warned yea! I warned yea! But yea did nay listen! And now..

Seriously when did the "you can not put judicial roles into private hands" principle get kicked to the curb. And especially not into private hands that have a vested interest If we had a non poo poo constitution this would be unconstitutional. It certainly violates all kinds of common law precedents. And yet here we are.

Also lol at Border Farce not already being outsourced heavily and by design. Unless you had your eyes closed due to the possibility of seeing Pavel's junk you would have read that every time there is a serious incident in our immigration detention it all becomes a game of pass the parcel between Immigration, The contractor, the government and/or police force of PNG/Nauru and assorted other sub-contractors and private individuals. At the end of round one - Obfuscation, the news cycle has moved on and nobody seems to know wtf is going on any more.

It occurred to me today that the last time we had such an epically bad series of governments mired in division and disunity was the Gorton-McMahon fiasco. This leads uncomfortably to the conclusion that, although that was decisively ended by "It's Time" and Gough, all we have today is an opposition who actively propose they would do more of the same. There was a time when the opposition took the role seriously and every time the not-Tories got into power they pushed for a significant agenda of change. And don't we need one today?

I'm not racist but,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-...ocalnews_sydney

quote:

Man spat in baby's face in Surry Hills street; Sydney police hunt for suspect of 'despicable act' Updated yesterday at 12:35pm

Police are searching for a man who spat in the face of a four-month-old baby girl in Sydney in what officers described as a "despicable act". The baby was being pushed in her pram by relatives on Crown Street, Surry Hills, about 5:30pm yesterday when the man, who was not known to the family, leant inside the pram and spat at the baby, before running off. Surry Hills Police Inspector Mick Garrahy said the police were investigating the matter and did not have any indication what motivated the man's actions. The baby's grandfather chased the man. As he was running away he "collided with a motor vehicle". He got up and kept running south along Crown Street. Inspector Garrahy could not confirm whether the man crashed into a parked car or was hit by a car. "We will be speaking to the driver of the vehicle," he said. Surry Hills police searched the area, but could not find him. A police statement said officers would now like to speak with a man who may be able to assist them with inquiries. He is described as being Caucasian, aged in his early 40s with a slim build and bald head and was last seen wearing a tie-dyed shirt and shorts.

It takes a brave man to stand up to the sort of rabid political correctness gone mad - Ray Hadley (About something else).

At least the scientific evidence counts for something:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-...ocalnews_sydney

quote:

Doctors plan to introduce pill testing at NSW music festivals, despite lack of government support Updated about an hour ago

A team of doctors is planning to roll out pill testing at musical festivals in New South Wales, but Premier Mike Baird has ruled out ever supporting the move.

Key points:

"There is a very safe way to go about pills and that is don't take them," Mike Baird says Sand or arse? The tough choices.
Drug testing would save lives, Dr Wodak, a physician who specialises in addiction says
The Government would not be condoning, in any way, what drug dealers were doing, says Mr Baird Why can't we have both?
Alex Wodak, president of the Drug Law Reform Foundation and one of the doctors behind the plan, said the team planned to go ahead with the move with or without the support of the Government.

"The number of these deaths seems to be increasing, the number of the presentations to emergency departments of people attending these events is increasing, and it doesn't have to be like this," Dr Wodak said.

Mr Baird said the method police were using to combat drug use was working. "In very simple terms that is an absolutely ridiculous proposal," Mr Baird said. "We're in a position that we absolutely do not support that in any way. There is a very safe way to go about pills and that is don't take them." - (Who the gently caress votes for this bozo?)

Seven people have died after allegedly taking drugs at music festivals across Australia in the past 12 months. Dr Wodak, a physician who specialises in addiction and was involved in setting up the first injecting room in Kings Cross, said drug testing would save lives. "People who test drugs at these events can find out that the drug that they've just bought is dangerous [and] would risk their life if they took it," he said. "When people hear that they throw the drugs away. The current police policy, which relies on saturation policing with sniffer dogs, seems to have failed."

This won't be happening in NSW: Premier

Mr Baird said the Government would not be condoning, in any way, what drug dealers were doing. "That's what this is about. The Deputy Premier has made many comments about this and I reiterate that today. This is widely held across our party, this is a Government view. This won't be happening here in NSW." He said he would encourage Dr Wodak not to go ahead with the project.

Ecstasy hospital presentations double

Pressure builds on the Government to rethink its tough stance on party drugs. "There are police efforts on a daily basis cracking down on these drug dealers that are trying to infiltrate our youth ... and we will continue to do that." Dr Wodak said the group was hoping to raise $100,000 to cover testing at one event. The money would pay for equipment, which Dr Wodak said would be of laboratory standard, and an independent review to measure whether the program had any impact on drug harms. He said he was hoping a few generous benefactors stepped up, but had a plan to cover any shortfall with a crowdfunding campaign.

Mr Baird's approach echoed that of Police Minister Troy Grant, who has previously said that there is no proof that pill testing would help the situation and the way the Government approached drugs would not change on his watch. Dr Wodak said Mr Troy's attitude showed that he did not seem to care that young people were losing their lives. "That's deeply disappointing. There are mothers that have lost their kids from this that want this. We would hope that if he [will not] listen to us at least listen to the mothers."

Oh won't someone please think of the police!

Housing chat:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-...uilding/7206678

A compelling counter to this, in Sydney and Melbourne, is that supply has yet to outstrip demand. Until that happens the two main centres of runaway pricing should be safe regardless of any policy settings.

Can we all just shut the gently caress up about Pavel? Who cares? If it is really jepardising your employment don't surf SA Aus Pol at work. Unless it is your job in which case get a less lovely toxic work environment.

Bolding and some other formatting lost in the Pavelocast

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:13

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

it would be great to have a thread that isn't NWS

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:16

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

Cartoon posted:

Housing chat:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-...uilding/7206678

A compelling counter to this, in Sydney and Melbourne, is that supply has yet to outstrip demand. Until that happens the two main centres of runaway pricing should be safe regardless of any policy settings.

If policy settings which encourage investor demand no longer apply, won't that reduce demand, thereby precipitating the state where supply outstrips the now reduced demand...?

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:18

thatfatkid: Feb 20, 2011; by Azathoth

Pavel posting is hella stupid and birb should've been banned not probated.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:25

bowmore: Oct 6, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

thatfatkid posted:

Pavel posting is hella stupid and birb should've been banned not probated.

Disagree totally.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:26

Knorth: Aug 19, 2014; Buglord

bowmore posted:

Disagree totally.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:30

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

Oh please please please shut the gently caress up about Pavel one way or the other.

Birdstrike posted:

If policy settings which encourage investor demand no longer apply, won't that reduce demand, thereby precipitating the state where supply outstrips the now reduced demand...?

There is little evidence that investor demand is a significant part of the overall housing demand. More over, the policies were intended to encourage supply. It's all a massive clusterfuck of unintended consequences but actual 'we need a roof' demand is still way ahead of supply so loving around with the levers controlling the policy clusterfuck still won't crash the market.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:33

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Cartoon posted:

Also lol at Border Farce not already being outsourced heavily and by design. Unless you had your eyes closed due to the possibility of seeing Pavel's junk you would have read that every time there is a serious incident in our immigration detention it all becomes a game of pass the parcel between Immigration, The contractor, the government and/or police force of PNG/Nauru and assorted other sub-contractors and private individuals. At the end of round one - Obfuscation, the news cycle has moved on and nobody seems to know wtf is going on any more.

It occurred to me today that the last time we had such an epically bad series of governments mired in division and disunity was the Gorton-McMahon fiasco. This leads uncomfortably to the conclusion that, although that was decisively ended by "It's Time" and Gough, all we have today is an opposition who actively propose they would do more of the same. There was a time when the opposition took the role seriously and every time the not-Tories got into power they pushed for a significant agenda of change. And don't we need one today?

The good news is they've spawned a generation of mini-me's who are mercifully free of any life experience outside of student politics or pet thinktanks, so that'll end well. Given the other generational implications of the boomer oligarchy, I'm wondering what it's going to take for an actual revolution, or are you all just biding your time until they're ready for the cheapest nursing home?

Having been at the sharp end of how the Department is "managing" the WFD program (ie getting agencies to cover for their utter incompetence and disorganization to the point of penalizing their customers for questioning the process, the customers being the businesses running the projects), I'm well aware of how the outsourcing program is proceeding. I merely think they may as well shut the department of border farce down since it seems completely redundant now, and since that's working so well, let's do the same with a bunch of other politically-difficult departments. Why bother governing at all, people just blame you for everything.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 01:38

Laserface: Dec 24, 2004

I dont have a problem with pics, but I do have a problem with pics that any non-internet person would consider sexual in nature showing up in line when the forum rules say thats bad.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 02:03

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

hahaha just to serve as the exclamation point to the Gen Y/Lockout piece,

The Scummy Morning Herald posted:

Premier Mike Baird's controversial lock-out laws have delivered a $150,000 windfall to apartment owners in Potts Point, new figures reveal.

you can read the rest yourself

# ? Feb 29, 2016 02:15

gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Cartoon posted:

There is little evidence that investor demand is a significant part of the overall housing demand. More over, the policies were intended to encourage supply. It's all a massive clusterfuck of unintended consequences but actual 'we need a roof' demand is still way ahead of supply so loving around with the levers controlling the policy clusterfuck still won't crash the market.

Something like 36% of houses are owned by investors and assuming that remains steady I'd say that is a significant part of the overall demand for housing. The percentage of investor owned houses is falling somewhat due to APRA changing the lending regulations (or something) but it is still a lot of the market.

The 'we need a roof' demand can be satisfied by renting and most people have fairly hard limits to what they can afford to spend on a house, limits that a lot of investors (especially institutional investors) don't have so they have a lot more scope to drive up the prices.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 02:18

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/26/brian_eno_oscars_swag_bag_is_part_of_israels_cultural_propaganda_campaign/

quote:

For decades, the UN has been condemning the forcible takeover of Palestinian land by Israeli settlers who, backed by an enormous army, government subsidies and the United States, have flooded in from Moscow, London, Brooklyn, Cape Town and elsewhere. It�s a familiar story: The Europeans who settled America did the same to the Native Americans, and the British did it to the Aboriginal Australians. In both cases we turned the victims into the problem: America had a redskin problem. Australia had an abbo problem. But what they both had, in reality, was a settler problem. And what Israel has is a settler problem.

All a part of the boomer problem. It says something when Palestinians still can't catch a break 30 years after South Africans.

ewe2 fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Feb 29, 2016

# ? Feb 29, 2016 02:31

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Personally I've had a gutful of this ''same sex'' debate and I suspect 95% of the population are like me. We have lots of graffiti and litter around our way. Plenty of youth unemployment. The trains are overcrowded and the roads clogged. Can we sort our priorities?

# ? Feb 29, 2016 02:40

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Personally I've had a gutful of this ''same sex'' debate and I suspect 95% of the population are like me. We have lots of graffiti and litter around our way. Plenty of youth unemployment. The trains are overcrowded and the roads clogged. Can we sort our priorities?

"People are ignoring the problems that I, a white straight male, have!"

Unless he's arguing "FFS just give the gay people rights this is a settled issue so we can work on other problems".

# ? Feb 29, 2016 02:44

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/301035582/Pahmplet

# ? Feb 29, 2016 02:44

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

If Israel is the same as other settler countries then why aren't there BDS campaigns against Australia, the US, Canada etc.?

# ? Feb 29, 2016 02:48

Halo14: Sep 11, 2001

Lid posted:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/301035582/Pahmplet

Marriage or Mirage. Hmmmm.... :smuggo:

# ? Feb 29, 2016 03:01

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

open24hours posted:

If Israel is the same as other settler countries then why aren't there BDS campaigns against Australia, the US, Canada etc.?

Because all criticism of Israel is because of anti-semitism.

# ? Feb 29, 2016 03:04

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

gay picnic defence posted:

Something like 36% of houses are owned by investors and assuming that remains steady I'd say that is a significant part of the overall demand for housing. The percentage of investor owned houses is falling somewhat due to APRA changing the lending regulations (or something) but it is still a lot of the market.

The 'we need a roof' demand can be satisfied by renting and most people have fairly hard limits to what they can afford to spend on a house, limits that a lot of investors (especially institutional investors) don't have so they have a lot more scope to drive up the prices.

Coming up with simple examples/explanations in this field is direly fraught. It is also one of the major areas of the economy where finding authentically unbiased advice/studies/information is neigh on impossible. You can't separate 'need a roof'/rental demand from overall demand. If rents go up enough then it will also drive investor demand because there are sweet rents to be had. This is already the case to some extent. What I was suggesting was that underlying the support of 'investor demand' was the overall lack of supply. Until supply outstrips demand there is nothing to worry about on the demand side.

Here's as near to a neutral document as I could find.

http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2015/sep/pdf/bu-0915-3.pdf

:laugh:

The best way not to have a housing bubble collapse? :laugh:

Immigration! Just make sure they aren't any darker than the living room walls.

Lid posted:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/301035582/Pahmplet

Please label hate material blind links.

Also for all the hate given boomers, some of us fell into a bit of a trap. During my 'active' years I fought against the Fraser government and saw them ousted. I then relaxed a little during the Hawke Keating years and those fuckers snuck some pretty hosed up poo poo past me before I even realised it. By the time JWH hit the scene I was done fighting to some extent. The next twenty years have been a never ending cavalcade of hosed up poo poo and I can't believe things have gotten this hosed up. You can see how it is tempting to blame the people who are younger for letting it happen however misguided that narrative or impulse may be. I never voted for any of this poo poo.

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birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

I think I agree Cartoon on that there's more likely to be an easing of house prices as opposed to a crash, but I am a bit unsure about where the difference lies. 10%? 25%?

# ? Feb 29, 2016 03:16

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