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Which non-Power of the Daleks story would you like to see an episode found from? This poll is closed. |
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| Marco Polo |
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36 | 20.69% |
| The Myth Makers |
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10 | 5.75% |
| The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve |
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| The Savages |
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| The Smugglers |
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2 | 1.15% |
| The Highlanders |
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45 | 25.86% |
| The Macra Terror |
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21 | 12.07% |
| Fury from the Deep |
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13 | 7.47% |
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After The War posted:There's a disturbing lack of Evelyn in that list. Oh, Jubilee also which is good
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Evelyn owns, and is far and away the best Sixth Doctor companion. She's inevitably in some bad stories, but - like Colin - Maggie Stables always brought her A game.
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jivjov posted:I know that fundamentally he's still the same man...but every time the War Doctor behaves exactly like any other incarnation of the Doctor would, it really undermines the "broke the promise" thing; makes me wonder why the 9th through 11th incarnations refused to acknowledge that incarnation's existence. So yeah, we were both very underwhelmed.
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 Gwen Cooper has triumphed against impossible odds before, but now she's finally met her match: Roger Pugh, Planning Officer for Cardiff City Council. Mr Pugh doesn't believe the world needs Torchwood. Gwen sets out to prove him wrong. For Mr Pugh, it's a day that'll change his life. If he can survive it. Eve Myles is Gwen Cooper in Torchwood: More Than This X X X X X Cast Eve Myles (Gwen Cooper) Richard Nichols (Roger Pugh) Guy Adams(Coachman) Tom Price (Sergeant Andy) Written by: Guy Adams Directed by: Scott Handcock Produced by: James Goss Script edited by: Steve Tribe Trailer - http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/popout/more-than-this-1299 X X X X X Torchwood: More Than This isn’t the slam bang audio one would expect as a “season finale” type story. Instead of a big showdown with the Committee, More Than This instead delivers a story with plenty of action but also a fair amount of introspection and reflection. One day in Cardiff not only showcases all the alien weirdness that the city has to offer, but also gives the characters a chance to reflect on how a newcomer to Torchwood would react to finding out that there’s a much larger universe than they ever knew possible, touching upon youth, dreams, life and death in the process while asking whether or not Torchwood truly protects humanity or draws unwanted attention. Roger Pugh is proud of his position as Planning Officer for the Cardiff City Council. He’s always had plenty of ideas for improving the city he grew up in – changing a trash-filled estuary into a waterfront hiking trail for one. Or perhaps building a multi-story car park near the entertainment district. But these things take time, planning, and the proper permits. So when a Ms. Gwen Cooper shows up in his office asking for him to expedite her request for a new building in the heart of Cardiff, Pugh understandably tells her that the process will take at least four months and that with a name like “Torchwood” she’ll have to fill out paperwork regarding the storage of combustible materials in a commercial area. Gwen’s response is to drag Pugh on a whirlwind tour of Cardiff. Decapitated aliens, a horse-and-buggy from the past, and a distinct lack of gravity might be par for the course with Gwen, but for Roger it is an eye opening look not only at the lives around him, but his own life… Guy Adams, known for the novel The World House is a newcomer to Big Finish but not to Torchwood, having written the story The House That Jack Built. Adams’ first Big Finish script is very well-balanced between humor, action, and pathos. The humor and action mix together throughout the story as Gwen tries to deal with several Rift-related issues while Roger simply tries to comprehend what the heck is going on, beginning with a severed alien head being thrown onto the roof of Gwen’s car and a buggy from Cardiff’s past racing down the road, poor Roger being forced to steer while Gwen leans out the window and force it back to its own time. Several short appearances by Torchwood fan favorite Constable Andy Davidson only help but to add to the absurdity, as a lifelong Cardiff bureaucrat is stunned by a policeman’s calm reaction to aliens and ghosts. Adams’ script moves along very quickly with director Scott Handcock ensuring the action and comedy don’t overwhelm the story itself. The action and humor are still prevalent in the back half of More Than This but they take a back seat towards philosophical introspection. Roger Pugh always had dreams, not just for Cardiff but for the world beyond the horizon, a world he hasn’t yet seen and believes he never will. Using the framing device of Roger standing at his dead wife’s graveside helps the story to transition from scene to scene while also allowing Roger’s feelings to come out without sounding forced. Richard Nichols (Fear Her, but don’t hold that against him as it was only a bit role) takes the very difficult task of portraying a man who has had his entire world paradigm shifted in less than twelve hours and makes it incredibly believable. Much like how Uncanny Valley wasn’t a story about Jack Harkness but about paralyzed billionaire Neil Redmond, More Than This isn’t about Gwen Cooper, but how a normal everyday man reacts to the concept of a much, much larger world than he ever knew. Removed from the threat of bodily harm and metaphysical assault, there’s no eagerness to Roger’s acceptance of what he’s seeing. It’s not so much a sense of wonder as much a sense of hesitancy that he feels at the idea of aliens and space travel. Gwen argues life is precious, but what is Roger in the grand scheme of things but a paper pusher? If all life is precious, then why does Torchwood sacrifice dozens to save millions? If Torchwood is saving the world, then why did Roger’s wife die ten years ago when a driver distracted by a bright light in the sky slammed into her (during the events of the very first Torchwood episode Day One)? All the aliens who keep showing up in Cardiff, is Torchwood defending humanity or drawing the aliens to Earth by virtue of their existence and use of alien technology? The best part of Nichols’ performance is that at no point does it sound like Roger is lecturing Gwen. He gets angry at times, but he’s reacting to the shattering of his world view by asking questions instead of denying what he’s seen. There’s a moment at the end of the story where it seems like Roger has come around and decided that Torchwood is a good thing and he’s at peace with the idea of aliens and far off-worlds, only to confront something so big and so powerful that the very concept and idea of humanity can’t ever occur to them. And Roger breaks. There’s no moment of heroism, no moment of courage and bravery, just the Lovecraftian-esque knowledge that there’s always something bigger out there and to try to even comprehend it will drive one mad. It’s up to Gwen to save him, which she does. But there’s no moment of joy or celebration for Roger - just a weary acceptance of a larger world out there. And a quiet promise to try to push Gwen’s request to rebuild Torchwood Three through as quick as he can. I don’t mean to give short shrift to Eve Myles here. Ten years after joining Torchwood, Gwen Cooper is in many ways a “modern day” Jack Harkness, only with a husband and a child instead of the need to bang anything that moves (and several things that don’t). She’s in charge, she cuts through red tape, she takes risks, she tells it like it is while also being sympathetic, and now she’s taking point in trying to reopen the Hub and Torchwood Three…ten years of character evolution have led to this point where Gwen is a model example of a competent Torchwood operative poised to bring the organization into the future. Which makes the rumor that Eve Myles has no further plans to play Gwen Cooper a bit of a heartbreaker as her turns in Forgotten Lives and More Than This were some drat fine acting. One thing that really stands out (and something I don’t believe I’ve mentioned in an audio review for quite a while!) is the sound work in this story. Blair Mowat’s music and Neil Gardner’s sound effect work is simply superb. Cardiff is brought to life, not only the day-to-day activities in the background, but the hoof beats against asphalt as the buggy races down the street, the sounds of Roger and Gwen bumping into the ceiling and walls as they deal with the lack of gravity, and the sheer presence of the galactic entity all come through crystal clear and spark the listener’s imagination. Big Finish’s sound work has always been on point, and in More Than This it’s been taken to a whole new level. More Than This, while not the big action packed confrontation with the Committee one would have expected, is a great story and well worth a listen. It’s funny, it’s got action, it’s got moments of tension, and there’s a lot of honesty and emotion packed into it. I’ve highly enjoyed Big Finish’s run with the Torchwood license so far…actually, I’ve enjoyed it more than anything from the televised series save Children of Earth and Countrycide. With another season planned (the first story actually drops in mid-March), Torchwood is a feather in Big Finish’s cap, and I highly recommend to anyone looking for some good stories to buy the entire season and give it a whirl. Pros + Great acting from Eve Myles and Richard Nichols + A script that balance action, humor, and emotion + Shows that you don’t need the meta arc to have a great story Cons - None. Not a one. Cobi’s Synopsis – More Than This closes the book on Torchwood’s first series with Big Finish with a fine story that mixes tension, humor, and pathos to show how a normal run-of-the-mill bureaucrat copes when confronted with the horrors and wonders that Torchwood deals with on a daily basis. Next up - Queen Victoria, ruler of Great Britain and Ireland and Empress of India, has arrived for her annual inspection of the Torchwood Institute. This year, everyone is quite determined, nothing will go wrong… John Barrowman is Jack Harkness in…Torchwood: The Victorian Age
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Feb 26, 2016 16:31
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Oh, Jubilee also which is good It is difficult to go wrong with Robert Shearman, all of whose writing for Big Finish is in almost everyone's top 10 (and most of which is discounted now!). It's kind of a shame he won't write for the television show, which, by his own admission, is due to Douglas Adams-like tendency to watch deadlines buzz by his ear (and/or his interest in non-TV projects).
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Feb 27, 2016 01:48
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The BtS featurette with Infernal Devices was just the John Hurt Appreciation Station and it was awesome.
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Feb 27, 2016 02:00
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 Short Synopsis: Cardinal Ollistra means to win the Time War. The War Doctor means to end it. Long Synopsis: The War Doctor is tracking down Super-Weapons being used/developed/sought by Time Lords and Daleks alike in order to remove them (the weapons) from the stage before they do untold damage to the wider universe. The War Doctor's desperate desire to find a peaceful solution to the War increasingly seems a fool's errand, till he must finally face the seeming truth of Ollistra's philosophy - a truth that may backfire on her spectacularly. Structure: Three connected episodes that both stand alone as well as telling a greater overarching story, this is a strong follow-up to Only the Monstrous that improves on what that story got right while mostly discarding the extraneous elements. This mostly feels like a tightly structured and efficient boxset, opening strongly with a story that explores the weirdness that the Time War has opened the universe up to, before cooling things down with a more traditional story before moving back into the weirdness, though this time a weirdness that is explicitly Time Lord made rather than the result of some external otherworldly factor as in the first story. In total it tells a story about what the Time War has done to the universe, and then what it is making first the Daleks and then the Time Lords do to themselves all in the name of a victory the War Doctor fears will be meaningless due to the collateral damage it causes.  In Legion of the Lost, the War Doctor's destruction of a Dalek-made weapon leads to his unexpected arrival on a mysterious planet governed by the laws of "magic". The Chief Priest of this strange society - Shadovar (played by the wonderful David Warner) - looks down with open contempt on the Time Lords, his magic grants him powers that they covet. For reasons that nobody but the War Doctor is willing to question, he has agreed to use his powers to allow for the mass resurrection of Gallifreyan soldiers - creating a never-ceasing army of immortals who will return again and again to the battlefield and win the war through sheer attrition. The War Doctor's investigations, of course, uncover a far more sinister reason for Shadovar's willingness to assist, as well as the horrifying revelation that the Time Lords are fully aware of the revolting cost of these resurrections. The revelation - Shadovar is able to access "non-time" and drag the races wiped out of existence by the Daleks' super-weapon back into reality, and then use their lifeforce to restore the dead soldiers to life - both ties in to the opening segment and provides foreshadowing for the conclusion. It demonstrates the "evil" of Shadovar and how that may pale in comparison to the "pragmatism" of the Time Lords, and furthers a theme that will quickly become familiar in this boxset - the increasing realization of the War Doctor of just how far his "people" have fallen and how anachronistic he has become, even in this current "soldier" incarnation he has taken on. This story also begins the process of exploring the wider implications of the madness of the Time War, something that has been suggested multiple times during the revival - as we learned more on television, we were given tantalizing glimpses of the insanity the War Doctor lived through. Davros flying into the jaws of the Nightmare Child; the Could've-Been King and his Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres; the Skaro Degradations; The Moment; the Horde of Travesties. In the classic series some of these "higher forms" of life were encountered in the form of The Celestial Toymaker and The Eternals, and in The Diary of River Song one of them returns from extinction due to the Time War to offer their services to either the Time Lords or Daleks. In this story, the "magic" of Shadovar and his people is revealed to be little more than the channeling of the power of an extra-dimensional species called The Horned Ones. It is effectively devil worship, bringing to mind the likes of the Daemons or the Nimon, and the Time Lords are opening themselves up to a far greater threat than even the Daleks pose by allowing a small portion of the Horned Ones' consciousness to inhabit the bodies of their resurrected troops, with each subsequent resurrection increasing the percentage of Horned One occupying this physical form till there is nothing of the Gallifreyan left. The universe is fracturing, dark things from outside of conventional understanding are sliding between the cracks like something out of Lovecraft, and the War Doctor is the only one who seems to see just how dangerous that is. His eventual solution is an extreme one, though much like the Doctor of old he gives Shadovar every chance to retreat peacefully - tying back in to the opening of the story, he restores the weapon he destroyed and uses it to wipe Shadovar and his entire race out of history, a painful and horrifying process in which the victims are completely aware of what is happening, remembering every generation before them who now never existed. His actions lead directly into the next story, as the far-from-grateful Time Lords who considered a little demonic possession as a small price to pay for winning the Time War declare him a traitor and place him under arrest as a war criminal:  A Thing of Guile is very much a more conventional Doctor Who story. In fact you could argue it's mostly filler, except it sets up some very important elements for the third story - the Anima device, the War Doctor's collar, the Daleks' insane devotion to purity, Ollistra's refusal to accept anything but total victory etc. Perhaps its biggest sin is the inclusion of two supporting characters from the previous story but having very little characterization continuity for them. The writer freely admits in the Behind-the-Scenes interviews that his story was put together later than the other two and he asked to borrow pre-established characters to make things easier for him. Cardinal Ollistra (the wonderful Jacqueline Pearce) takes the War Doctor, Co-ordinator Jarad and Captain Solex on a stealth mission to a Dalek asteroid base where she suspects a secret weapon is being developed. A running subplot about the mining ship they used as cover attempting to draw a Dalek strike force into pursuit of them doesn't really go anywhere or really have any great impact on the story, while much of the time on the asteroid is spent using the other two Time Lords as redshirts to try and sell the danger of the asteroid, while leaving Ollistra and the War Doctor untouched because nobody believes they're going to die in part 2 of a 3-part story. When the War Doctor finally discovers the secret weapon, the obvious parallels between himself as a Prisoner and the weapon only being referenced by number are far from subtle - the implication being that there is little difference between Daleks and Time Lords in this war. The weapon is not so much important as the scientists designing it - these Daleks have expanded their minds to accept new notions, and seen that there is benefit to reversing Davros' genetically engineered mutation and get a take on the war from a different perspective. I have to admit to being a little disappointed that there wasn't a reveal of involvement by the Cult of Skaro since everything seemed to be pointing that way. The War Doctor and Ollistra are saved by the arrival of MORE Daleks who have some very angry things to say to the asteroid inhabitants, and the Chekhov's gun of the Anima device that the War Doctor was asked to look at during the opening to the story finally gets fired. This comes across like a bit of a deus ex machina but has important implications for the resolution of the next story, and that about sums up this episode really. While it's perfectly serviceable as a story on its own, it's nothing special, and is more successful as part of the greater whole, and set-up for the story to follow.  The Neverwhen is probably the strongest individual story of the three, as well as a wonderful capstone to the boxset. At the end of the previous story, the War Doctor thought he'd outsmarted Ollistra and escaped in his TARDIS. Instead, he finds himself directed to the Neverwhen, the scarred landscape left behind by an experimental Time Lord weapon called the Time Flux. Trapped inside are an army of Daleks and an army of Gallifreyans, locked in an eternal war where not only does death have no meaning, but neither does causality or continuity. Weapons, uniforms, even physiology adjust and change in a state of flux - at one moment one side may be firing nuclear weapons at the other, and a second later the nuclear warheads have become stones being shot from crude slings. Stazers become machine guns, spears become bayonets, battle armor becomes animal skins, highly trained soldiers become primitive hunter-gatherer tribes. One side may be fighting with computer-controlled spider-tanks, the other with crudely lashed together axes... and then suddenly the flux hits and the fortunes are reversed. Soldiers are killed by the hundreds if not the thousands, only to be returned to life by the Flux which pays no mind to something as straightforward as death. And all the soldiers on both sides remember EVERYTHING that happens, remember the pain of their deaths or injuries, remember the changes to their brain chemistry as they shift from primitive tribes to hyper-advanced military. The War Doctor arrives in the Neverwhen and immediately makes a big mistake, one that is obviously coming but still ends up being effective when it is revealed. The script is VERY careful about how it words things, to the point that you can clearly see it being telegraphed, but John Hurt still does a great job selling his horror when he realizes he has been aiding the Dalek war effort because he mistook the Kaled form for Gallifreyan. It's just a shame that nothing is more explicitly made of the fact that he was incapable of telling the difference between the two. Discovering he is initially protected from the effects of the Neverwhen, he joins back up with Ollistra (she rather callously used him and his TARDIS to chart a path to the Neverwhen because a conventional TARDIS couldn't find it but his TARDIS is more used to going to weird places) where she attempts to at first persuade and later force him into doing her bidding. This leads to a fantastic scene in which the Doctor (note that, the Doctor, not the War Doctor) finds another way and solves the impossible problem with a perfect solution. That this then all falls apart is very, very, very important, leading to this wonderful line from Ollistra (paraphrased): Cardinal Ollistrap posted:You say you're not the Doctor. But I think you thought you could be here, didn't you? You thought you could ignore reality and pull some impossible bit of improvisation out and solve everything. But you can't, because this is War, and the only way to end it is to win it That's not EXACTLY what she says but it's fairly close, and it hits home really hard. It's important because it has to set the stage for the War Doctor's eventual decision to use the Moment, to give up on the notion that he can end the war peacefully and commit one final moment of unthinkable violence. But it's equally important in that it also leads to the War Doctor's rejection of Ollistra's philosophy. After having it hammered home to him again and again that he must follow her orders, must accept her way of thinking, must become the good soldier that all the other Gallifreyans in these stories have proved to be.... the War Doctor utterly rejects that, taking a different lesson than what she wanted. The sound design is particularly fantastic here, as the music swells and the War Doctor bit by bit unravels all of Ollistra's carefully laid plans - after three episodes of her having the upper hand strategically, it's very cathartic. The War Doctor's physical dismissal of Ollistra and Gallifrey matches his verbal one, as he lays out his own new philosophy. After spending three episodes tracking down and disposing of weapons on both the Dalek and Time Lord side, in some futile hope of removing enough of the toys that he could protect the universe from the fallout of their war. Now instead he declares his intention to end the War itself - not on behalf of the Time Lords, nor the Daleks. He will end things to save the universe, and all he has learned from Ollistra is that he can't hope for a peaceful resolution. The War must be ended, and he will end it no matter what the cost to his own people or his own soul. Final Thoughts: Infernal Devices is a superior follow-up to the good but somewhat bloated Only the Monstrous, with a far clearer throughline. Slightly limping through the middle story, the first and third are strong enough (and the latter strengthened/serviced by the second story) to carry things. John Hurt and Jacqueline Pearce are excellent together, their philosophical bickering definitely a highlight of the story and extremely important for the big climax. The supporting characters are mostly serviceable if not particularly noteworthy, with the big exception being David Warner who is just fantastic as the contemptuous Shadovar. This boxset is where we start seeing both more of the inherent weirdness of the Time War that was teased so effectively on television, as well as the important shifting of the War Doctor's resignation towards his ultimate decision to finally put an end to it once and for all. Things have been well set-up now, it remains to be seen if the third Boxset can follow up on the promise of this second one. If it doesn't, it won't be through any fault of this one, because it's really, really, really drat good. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Feb 27, 2016 |
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Feb 27, 2016 05:24
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Colditz (Broad, unspecific Colditz spoilers follow!) Uncollected thoughts in no particular order:
*Lyons is a New Adventures veteran, so safe bets are on "sexual" 
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Feb 27, 2016 11:40
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So I'd give it a B
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Feb 27, 2016 11:41
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I've been using ABC2's perpetual Doctor Who reruns for background noise while I've done dishes the last couple of nights and they're up to the end of Eccle's run at the moment and 1) Bad Wolf is the most mid-2000s thing that ever mid-2000sed and 2) I feel really bad for Lynda with a Y 
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Feb 27, 2016 11:49
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Box of Bunnies posted:I've been using ABC2's perpetual Doctor Who reruns for background noise while I've done dishes the last couple of nights and they're up to the end of Eccle's run at the moment and 1) Bad Wolf is the most mid-2000s thing that ever mid-2000sed and 2) I feel really bad for Lynda with a Y Also I never get tired of the fact they set an episode in 2012, which is now considerably in the past.
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Feb 27, 2016 12:00
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Also I never get tired of the fact they set an episode in 2012, which is now considerably in the past. The Tenth Planet is set in the far future world of 1986! (What's wrong with setting an episode in the near future, it's not like all the other stuff in the Doctor Who background happened either)
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Feb 27, 2016 12:05
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I was so sure that the "THEY SURVIVED THROUGH ME" voice was going to be the Face of Boe.
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Feb 27, 2016 12:16
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qntm posted:I was so sure that the "THEY SURVIVED THROUGH ME" voice was going to be the Face of Boe. Oh I remember everyone having a theory as to who it was. Davros, another Time Lord, Adam Mitchell (somehow), the Dalek we saw in 'Dalek' (apparently it time travelled again, not exploded).
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Feb 27, 2016 12:20
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The Tenth Planet is set in the far future world of 1986! Apparently the behind-the-scenes people on the show had a lot of fun with Fear Her, precisely because it was the near-future. There's a few minor details in props, set dressing and technology that's almost unnoticeable, but they did as things they thought would either be realistic developments in 2012, or would be funny to call back to (I believe there was a poster for a flash-in-the-pan X Factor winner's greatest hits tour or something on a wall).
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Feb 27, 2016 12:32
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The_Doctor posted:Oh I remember everyone having a theory as to who it was. Davros, another Time Lord, Adam Mitchell (somehow), the Dalek we saw in 'Dalek' (apparently it time travelled again, not exploded). I remember the production team did their best to stoke up speculation about the Bad Wolf by setting up a fake website of fan theories, dropping tantalising hints that it could be Sutekh or Fenric or something else, and there was even a picture of Adam looking spooky. They knew exactly what they were doing. I miss that they don't do that kind of thing any more, having specific web pages for every episode with clues and easter eggs and so on. It was like they were going that extra effort to make the show feel like more of an event.
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Feb 27, 2016 12:57
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Castle Radium posted:I remember the production team did their best to stoke up speculation about the Bad Wolf by setting up a fake website of fan theories, dropping tantalising hints that it could be Sutekh or Fenric or something else, and there was even a picture of Adam looking spooky. They knew exactly what they were doing. Instead, this year the show is more of a non-event.
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Feb 27, 2016 17:19
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The Tenth Planet is set in the far future world of 1986! It just got erased by one of their other adventures, like all the times the earth has ended and they've had to leave by ark.
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Feb 27, 2016 18:52
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Castle Radium posted:I remember the production team did their best to stoke up speculation about the Bad Wolf by setting up a fake website of fan theories, dropping tantalising hints that it could be Sutekh or Fenric or something else, and there was even a picture of Adam looking spooky. They knew exactly what they were doing. I remember having this theory that the Bad Wolf was the Master, who'd been stuck in the heart of the TARDIS after he fell into the Eye of Harmony in the TV movie, then possessed Rose when she looked into it in "The Parting of the Ways", and then the Master was going to be the main villain the second season. I had so much misplaced confidence about that.
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Feb 27, 2016 19:38
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Huh, if you search 'doctor blue box' like Rose does, the first result is still http://www.whoisdoctorwho.co.uk/
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Feb 27, 2016 20:14
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The_Doctor posted:Huh, if you search 'doctor blue box' like Rose does, the first result is still http://www.whoisdoctorwho.co.uk/ I'm surprised no one has an avatar of: 
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Feb 27, 2016 20:28
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The Tenth Planet is set in the far future world of 1986! There's nothing wrong with it, I just found it funny. It doesn't help that the episode does nothing with the near-future concept, since it could easily be set in 2005, 1986 or 2016 without changing a thing.
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Feb 28, 2016 04:56
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Feb 28, 2016 21:51
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Doctor Spaceman posted:There's nothing wrong with it, I just found it funny. It doesn't help that the episode does nothing with the near-future concept, since it could easily be set in 2005, 1986 or 2016 without changing a thing. It's set during the 2012 London Olympics.
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Feb 28, 2016 23:14
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Almost one copy sold!
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Feb 29, 2016 00:17
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cargohills posted:It's set during the 2012 London Olympics. I was talking about Dalek, not Fear Her.
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Feb 29, 2016 02:39
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I just finished re-watching it all and I realised something in s01. When the Doctor first goes to Roses house in ep1, just before the arm attacks him, he makes a comment about his ears while looking in the mirror, implying he has very recently regenerated. Then, when rose tries to find out more about him, you see those pictures of him on the titanic and wherever else, all throughout history, same regeneration. How long (from his perspective) do you reckon he traveled around history before he came back a day or so later from roses perspective to finish the Autons?
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Feb 29, 2016 03:35
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River posted:I just finished re-watching it all and I realised something in s01. When the Doctor first goes to Roses house in ep1, just before the arm attacks him, he makes a comment about his ears while looking in the mirror, implying he has very recently regenerated. Then, when rose tries to find out more about him, you see those pictures of him on the titanic and wherever else, all throughout history, same regeneration. How long (from his perspective) do you reckon he traveled around history before he came back a day or so later from roses perspective to finish the Autons? I've never understood how the Ninth Doctor appeared in so many pictures without once looking at a mirror or anything else where he would see his own face.
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Feb 29, 2016 03:40
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Handwavey bullshit explanation is that 9 has no memory of changing history wrt using the Moment to burn Gallifrey, so perhaps he was wandering aimlessly through time and space for a relative few years in anger/guilt/sadness, and his trip to see Rose was the first time he felt jovial again, and willing to face himself in the mirror again?
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Feb 29, 2016 03:45
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I heard the theory that when he does all that stuff when in the moments between his disappearances at the end of the episode.
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Feb 29, 2016 03:47
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CaptainYesterday posted:I've never understood how the Ninth Doctor appeared in so many pictures without once looking at a mirror or anything else where he would see his own face. My theory is he had just regenerated when he first went to roses, then he left, walked back to the tardis while having that "I can feel the turn of the earth" moment, left alone, did all that titanic etc stuff, then came back after.
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Feb 29, 2016 03:48
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I like the gag towards the end of Eleventh Hour where the shapechanging monster impersonates the Doctor and he says "who's that meant to be?" Rory asks how he can not know what his own face looks like and he says "busy day"
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Feb 29, 2016 03:50
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Really there are plenty of times 9 hosed off for a couple of seconds and it allows plenty of time for him to see JFK.
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Feb 29, 2016 03:59
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Yeah, it's a show with time travel, so there are about 1000 ways to "explain" how the obsessed guy had details of the 9th Doctor appearing at multiple times in history.
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Feb 29, 2016 04:13
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah, it's a show with time travel, so there are about 1000 ways to "explain" how the obsessed guy had details of the 9th Doctor appearing at multiple times in history. 
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Feb 29, 2016 04:19
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Feb 29, 2016 04:45
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Seized with a burning desire to watch all of Matt Smith's episodes again. naturally this would strike when they're off Netflix and never coming back.
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Feb 29, 2016 04:54
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2house2fly posted:Seized with a burning desire to watch all of Matt Smith's episodes again. naturally this would strike when they're off Netflix and never coming back. If I start watching The Eleventh Hour, I'm probably not gonna stop till The Time of the Doctor 
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Feb 29, 2016 04:55
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Jerusalem posted:If I start watching The Eleventh Hour, I'm probably not gonna stop till The Time of the Doctor I don't see a problem with this.
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Feb 29, 2016 04:57
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Rhyno posted:I don't see a problem with this. Oh it's a 1st World Problem for sure, but I have so much other stuff to watch and listen to and play (oh yeah, and do actual boring adult things too).
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