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cams
Mar 28, 2003


Nostalgia4Ass posted:

Got my first ranked win tonight. It was sandwiched in between several losses but it doesn't matter. I am still very very bad but maybe just slightly less bad? Or lucky that some poor Japanese dude just picked up this game and was like "WTF is a Street Fighter? Lets play this online".
plz play in battle lobbies against the same opponent as long as you can. you will get so much better so much faster.

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Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

cams posted:

plz play in battle lobbies against the same opponent as long as you can. you will get so much better so much faster.

-Edit- I am an idiot and didn't know that it was possible to see other people hosting battle lobbies. I will give it a shot. Thanks for the advice.

Hekk fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Feb 29, 2016

RossCo
Dec 30, 2012

I have no idea what I am doing in almost any given situation.
As far as I can tell ranked is where I go to experience a wide range of match-ups and feel good about myself,
and lobbies is where I get the snot kicked out of me by people and see just how much I have left to work on.

That moment when a Sim joins your lobby though. You know its good for you, and you have to get used to this but..... hnnnnng.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

I can't believe there aren't enough mouthbreathers playing this game at any given time to let me bail out of every survival match.

add a retry token but make the cost like 1000000 points or something this is too tedious for words

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

How about a "Please press D + HK to verify that you know how to beat Survival 1 - 25" prompt before each run to skip to the Real poo poo

cams
Mar 28, 2003


just watched the 4 hours of winter brawl top 16 i missed when i had to leave for work. li joe working the shimmy so well with nash is exactly what i love about this game. he does so well just by measuring distances, conditioning, and executing reliable punishes. been tooling around with necalli and nash a bit, really fun playing characters in this game that can get real damage walking away from someone in the corner.

Illinois Smith
Nov 15, 2003

Ninety-one? There are ninety other "Tiger Drivers"? Do any involve actual tigers, or driving?

Nostalgia4Ass posted:

I am still very very bad but maybe just slightly less bad?
I figured out two basic Rashid combos and now I've somehow ranked up to bronze. I find that I can somewhat hang with guys who actually know what they're doing for a round or so if they're offensive players but any defensive Ryu will just wipe the floor with me.

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad
What are Zangief's BNB's? I really struggle with him to combo anything, and don't really know what I'm supposed to be doing 'most of the time' with him, I'm forever just playing footsies and whiffing SPDs.

Illinois Smith
Nov 15, 2003

Ninety-one? There are ninety other "Tiger Drivers"? Do any involve actual tigers, or driving?

!Klams posted:

What are Zangief's BNB's? I really struggle with him to combo anything, and don't really know what I'm supposed to be doing 'most of the time' with him, I'm forever just playing footsies and whiffing SPDs.
Also is there some kind of glossary or something for the terms people use? I'd love to be able to understand the other half of this thread.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

BnB = Bread n Butter, your average easy enough to do, but still respectable damage combo

SPD = Spinning Pile Driver, sometimes catchall for big commands grabs but also used very specifically when talking about Gief

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.

Illinois Smith posted:

Also is there some kind of glossary or something for the terms people use? I'd love to be able to understand the other half of this thread.

BNB= bread and butter, shorthand for a staple, relatively easy combo that you should be able to perform 95% of the time you get an opportunity to do so. After learning what your buttons do, and how to anti-air, BNB combos should be one of the very first things you learn about a character.

e;fb

Ragg
Apr 27, 2003

<The Honorable Badgers>

Illinois Smith posted:

Also is there some kind of glossary or something for the terms people use? I'd love to be able to understand the other half of this thread.

https://www.google.no/search?q=fighting+games+glossary

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

JackDarko posted:

Evil Canadian you do know you're my favorite Canadian right? That being made mind sharing some Vega hit confirms and possibly some advice regarding how to hit ex walldive? I'm struggling entering the DP after a neutral. Trying real hard to learn Vega this time around.

Well one of the big things that helps and yeah you shouldn't do(but actually do it) is I hold down-forward during hit confirm combos, then just ride the gate downback-downforward into ex walldive. It's a bad habit but whatever I have done my time the proper way and it works just fine and its much quicker.

As for combos, I did a Vega BnB vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsfxCTu3Yo0

Although I regret not putting in there just (claw)st.mp, cr.mp. Unless you are one of the crazies that prefers no claw Vega in neutral, it is the combo you will land more than any other.

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy

Illinois Smith posted:

Also is there some kind of glossary or something for the terms people use? I'd love to be able to understand the other half of this thread.

IT'S IN THE OP THAT I WORKED HARD ON PLEASE READ IT AAAAARGH

Edit: Also does anyone have the character portraits ripped from the game? Working on a thing for the OP.

Closest I have is this but they're not image files
http://pfunkk.deviantart.com/art/STREET-FIGHTER-V-CHARACTER-PORTRAITS-FIX-593432170

Agoat fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Feb 29, 2016

Revelant
Jul 27, 2007

Ask me about my male escort services. 30% Discounts for Goons.
How will this work on mirror matches?

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy

Revelant posted:

How will this work on mirror matches?

The mod I posted? Identical portrait for each side, just flipped.

Trykt
Jul 30, 2000

Still training..

cloofish posted:

Good poo poo. Keep in mind Ryu's target combos give a free juggle after v-trigger, so you can do st.HP ~ st.HK xx V-Trigger, LK Tatsu xx Super, for example, for a bit more bang for your buck. Looks stylish too!

e: Also CC HK xx V-Trigger, f.HP, cr.HP xx HP Shoryuken xx Super does absolutely insane damage and stun.

Popping V-Trigger mid combo is no good for punishes since it adds an extra hit of scaling for the activation. You're better off hitting V-Trigger while they're still in the air from their DP or whatever and then doing a punish from the list, that's always gonna be the best damage.

Arzachel posted:

Is st.MP, c.HP xx HP SRK not worth doing over the other starters even if you're in range?

The damage is slightly better than starting with cr.HP, yes. However, This combo has serious consistency issues due to range. I know of punishes where it both works and where the cr.HP fails depending on variables that may or may not be in your control. Either way it's not to be relied upon IMO. Personally, as part of any punish combo, I'm scratching it out of my playbook.

Trykt fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Feb 29, 2016

Voodoo
Jun 3, 2003

m2sbr what

!Klams posted:

What are Zangief's BNB's? I really struggle with him to combo anything, and don't really know what I'm supposed to be doing 'most of the time' with him, I'm forever just playing footsies and whiffing SPDs.
c.LP x 1000 because his jab is good.

The only thing that is even remotely like a bnb is F+HP > s.LK (hold forward) > lariat. You have to land a pretty deep jump in to combo into it, but it's possible.

s.HP > v.trigger (hold) > EX air SPD is good damage as well.

But really you just want to SPD as much as possible. Tick SPD, v.skill armor SPD, v.trigger for the blocked vortex SPD, F+MK for a hop SPD. Whatever it takes.

Like Snake Eyez says - plant people, not trees.

Bisse
Jun 26, 2005

!Klams posted:

What are Zangief's BNB's? I really struggle with him to combo anything, and don't really know what I'm supposed to be doing 'most of the time' with him, I'm forever just playing footsies and whiffing SPDs.
From a jumping do e.g. jumping d.HP, d.MP, s.LK, lariat. You won't often land any combo at all in a match with him but when you do and don't have v-trigger or super, this is the best you can do AFAIK.

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Gief was never strong on the combos, but yeah way less so in this one. Only other big combo is cr.lk/lp whatever into trigger.

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


Holy poo poo, I finally beat survival on normal. With Laura of all people, lol.

Bisse
Jun 26, 2005

Laura actually seems good. Like she is garbage at everything except the one thing that really matters so far in this game which is footsies, frame traps, overall the mid range game. And she seems good at converting to big damage from midrange stuff. I haven't played her but she looks like a good close range brawler to me.

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


Bisse posted:

Laura actually seems good. Like she is garbage at everything except the one thing that really matters so far in this game which is footsies, frame traps, overall the mid range game. And she seems good at converting to big damage from midrange stuff. I haven't played her but she looks like a good close range brawler to me.

She also has a mean anti air from my experience fighting her online.

So here's a question I haven't bothered to ask until now. What's a V-Reversal and how do I do one

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

Forward + 3 punches while in block stun. Costs 1 bar of V-Trigger and either gets you out of there or does some grey health damage and sometimes a down. Usually invulnerable but can be thrown.

Sibilant Crisp
Jul 4, 2014

At first I had done easy and normal survival with Dhalsim and it was stupid easy just spamming hp mk hp mk hp mk over and over, they all fell for it except for a select few, but I still did it in one try. I almost did it with Karin but died to Bison.

Funnily enough I prefer color 3 with Dhalsim anyway, he looks dead as heck.

Ryuga Death
May 14, 2008

There's gotta be one more bell to crack
Fun Shoe
Not everyone's V-Reversal is forward + 3 punches, Gief's and Ken's v-reversal is forward + 3 kicks. Also, V-reversals will take off some stun from your own stun meter.

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
The only character I win with consistently is zangeif

here's my awesome "combo"

after a spaz misses a dragon punch:

standing crush counter? hard kick

do another one while they're spinning in the air (don't go for an aerial spinning pd)

then a low forward kick as they're coming down

then immediately another standing hard kick

catches them everytime, seems to stun a lot too

hope that helps!

Okita
Aug 31, 2004
King of toilets.
V-reversal is good to know, but probably not that useful until you start running into opponents that can run a tighter offense. Most of the offense you're gonna see is unsafe and has holes in it. Working the actual V-trigger into your game and getting comfortable with it probably takes priority over working in V-reversals.

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy

Trykt posted:

:siren:COMBO DUMP POST:siren:

Ryu practical combos into super. There are of course lots of other combos that technically exist but anything not listed here is probably a less optimal version of something already on the list.

Hit Confirm:
  • st.LP, st.LK xx HP SRK xx Super (fastest start up)
  • b.HK, st.LK xx HP SRK xx Super (strongest "normal" hit confirm)
  • b.HK, st.LK xx LK Tatsu xx Super (max range)
  • cr.LK~cr.LP xx HP SRK xx Super (starts low, fast)
  • cr.MK xx HP Hadoken xx Super (longest range "low" hit confirm)
  • st.MP, cr.MP xx HP Hadoken xx Super
  • f.HP xx HP SRK xx Super

V-Trigger Hit Confirm:
  • cr.MK xx V-Trigger, Super (low, works at max range of cr.MK)
  • st.MK xx V-Trigger, st.HP xx Super
  • st.MK xx V-Trigger, Super (max range)
  • st.HP~st.HK xx V-Trigger, Super (vs. standing only, unless st.HP hits as CC)

Full Punish:
  • CC st.HK, st.HK, st.LK xx HP SRK xx Super (vs. standing only)
  • f.HP, cr.HP xx HP SRK xx Super (very slow startup)
  • cr.HP xx HP SRK xx Super (short range, great damage)
  • b.HK, st.LK xx HP SRK xx Super (medium range, medium damage)
  • b.HK, st.LK xx LK Tatsu, Super (max range, least damage)
  • HP SRK xx Super (fastest punish, medium range)

Misc:
  • st.LK xx LK Tatsu xx Super (whiff punish vs. standing only)
  • j.MP, Super (situational anti-air)
  • j.MK, st.MP, cr.HP xx HP SRK xx Super (guaranteed after deep or cross-up j.MK hits, big damage)

Note: Maybe this is the SF4 player in me talking but it really bugs me he doesn't have a way into super from anti-air SRK, not even early LP SRK juggle into Super, for some reason the opponent has no juggle points after they get hit by that. At least let me V-Trigger into juggle Super after if you wanna limit that but drat that really chaps my rear end.

Note 2: It occurred to me this is almost every practical combo Ryu has anyway (you basically put Super at the end if you have it) so I'll just throw in a few extra things that are worth learning/doing:

Other Good poo poo:
  • j.MP (2) xx air HK Tatsu
  • j.MP, EX SRK
  • f.HP, cr.HP xx EX Tatsu, EX SRK (corner only)
  • Charged V-Trigger Hadoken Guard Break, dash forward, b.HK combos from above
  • st.HP~st.HK xx V-Trigger, HP or EX SRK (corner only, vs. standing only, unless st.HP hits as CC)

Added this to the OP!

interrodactyl
Nov 8, 2011

you have no dignity

Bisse posted:

Laura actually seems good. Like she is garbage at everything except the one thing that really matters so far in this game which is footsies, frame traps, overall the mid range game. And she seems good at converting to big damage from midrange stuff. I haven't played her but she looks like a good close range brawler to me.

actually laura is the worst character in the game

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy
Reorganized the OP and I have realized how massive it's going to get. I'll end up adding some sort of search thing with Ctrl + F once we have more character information up.

croutonZA
Jan 5, 2011

Agoat posted:

IT'S IN THE OP THAT I WORKED HARD ON PLEASE READ IT AAAAARGH

Edit: Also does anyone have the character portraits ripped from the game? Working on a thing for the OP.

Closest I have is this but they're not image files
http://pfunkk.deviantart.com/art/STREET-FIGHTER-V-CHARACTER-PORTRAITS-FIX-593432170

You can extract the images from that with umodel btw.

umodel.exe export -dds -game=ue4.7 <filename>.uasset should do the trick.

Edit: gently caress it, here: http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/3kWGovdi/file.html

croutonZA fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 29, 2016

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

https://twitter.com/RyanJosephHart/status/704380300697202693

Bisse
Jun 26, 2005

For being a multiplayer game the multiplayer features sure suck rear end, it takes me between 1 to 10 minutes to find a ranked game, and battle lobbies would be great if I could EVER successfully join any of them.

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

Bisse posted:

For being a multiplayer game the multiplayer features sure suck rear end, it takes me between 1 to 10 minutes to find a ranked game, and battle lobbies would be great if I could EVER successfully join any of them.

Same. The 1 minute I don't mind. The 10 minutes sucks a lot, though. It wouldn't be so bad if I had some kind of arcade mode to distract me. I don't play survival mode while I'm searching for matches because survival mode is serious business and I don't wanna be interrupted, haha.

Also, battle lounges can only hold 2 people at the moment. Improved lounges are coming in March Sometimetm. I'm holding out hope for a King of the Hill mode with spectators. That poo poo used to be my jam in Mortal Kombat.

Sick! Thats DOPE
Aug 1, 2008

Oh sick man thats sick

I hope the time frame for people to be saying "Shimmy" so much is a short one

Blinn
Mar 24, 2005

I'm assuming lots of people will be more interested in Laura after seeing Mister Crimson. Here's a really great vid about mixing people up by Dandy J. Yeah it's 2 weeks old but it's also the best Laura vid out there [citation needed] and I don't think anybody else posted it yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIPs7pLn6fc

rednecked_crake
Mar 17, 2012

srsly who wants to play this lamer?

Bisse posted:

For being a multiplayer game the multiplayer features sure suck rear end, it takes me between 1 to 10 minutes to find a ranked game, and battle lobbies would be great if I could EVER successfully join any of them.

I was able to host lobbies just fine until somewhere around Saturday evening. Made a new one after playing some random guy and I was met with the 'disconnected from battle lounge' message, and I still get that if I try now. Weirdly, I've joined a couple of lobbies where the owner eventually leaves (and I then become the host), and people join just fine. Don't get booted back to main menu or anything. I guess something isn't going through to CFN when I try to host myself now. At least I can still join lobbies because I don't like playing FT1 ranked or casual at all. Barely touched either of those modes because of how lovely they are.

Fruitsnacks
Oct 28, 2007

deadly_pudding posted:

Same. The 1 minute I don't mind. The 10 minutes sucks a lot, though. It wouldn't be so bad if I had some kind of arcade mode to distract me. I don't play survival mode while I'm searching for matches because survival mode is serious business and I don't wanna be interrupted, haha.
You can search for matches while doing training mode. Pause the game while in training mode and at the bottom of the menu is an option called Network Match Fight Request Settings, which is identical to the one on the main menu screen.

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angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
i hate big lobbies, and i hate xrd's lobby system for that reason. when i'm playing online i want to loving play, not watch other people play. the whole reason i'm playing online is so that i can play the max amount of time for the least amount of effort (and because people only want to play offline like twice a week), so the worst thing ever is when six people want to join a lobby and sit there watching two people play instead of actually playing

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