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WAT is a good Rapid Charging Wall Wart? should i buy the one from google? THIS thing from amazon? http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-PA-U28-Qualcomm-Certified-Smartphones/dp/B00QEX83LA NOT SURE! my old WALL WARTS don't engage the Rapid. Fail.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:50
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Has anyone switched away from Project Fi and then switched back? I'm not paying any less using T-Mobile, and the support/service/everything about Fi is better in every way (plus, I just switched back to Google services on my macbook/iphone and remember how garbage Apple services are in comparison). Do I just need to shoot a quick email off to support to order another phone? My account is paid off and in good standing.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:55
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If you stream a lot of netflix/hbo/hulu/espn and pandora/spotify/google/apple music when not on wifi, then t-mobile is really good bang for buck since it's all unmetered now (doesn't count towards your monthly data quota). Anyone already on t-mobile that uses the above a lot should probably ensure this is considered before switching.
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Feb 24, 2016 20:17
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Ranter posted:If you stream a lot of netflix/hbo/hulu/espn and pandora/spotify/google/apple music when not on wifi, then t-mobile is really good bang for buck since it's all unmetered now (doesn't count towards your monthly data quota). Anyone already on t-mobile that uses the above a lot should probably ensure this is considered before switching. Apparently, there's a big thing about how this goes against net neutrality, so I'm waiting to see if that goes anywhere.
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Feb 24, 2016 20:23
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Takoluka posted:Apparently, there's a big thing about how this goes against net neutrality, so I'm waiting to see if that goes anywhere. Can you elaborate? Is t-mobile slowing down or blocking access to streaming services that didn't sign up with them? If not, then I don't see how this isn't good for the consumer, t-mobile or the streaming services. It's a win/win/win right?
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Feb 24, 2016 20:26
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Ranter posted:Can you elaborate? Is t-mobile slowing down or blocking access to streaming services that didn't sign up with them? If not, then I don't see how this isn't good for the consumer, t-mobile or the streaming services. It's a win/win/win right? IMO it directly conflicts with net neutrality. It's giving bandwidth preference to certain providers. If a consumer has to pay per unit of data used for service X, but doesn't have to pay per unit of data used for service Y then it looks like service X probably is doomed to fail just because it wasn't already established.
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Feb 24, 2016 20:36
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Tots posted:IMO it directly conflicts with net neutrality. It's giving bandwidth preference to certain providers. Is t-mobile giving bandwidth priority (QoS) resulting in slowing down of other services? If yes then I agree it's a huge net neutrality issue. That's a reduction in value to the consumer. quote:If a consumer has to pay per unit of data used for service X, but doesn't have to pay per unit of data used for service Y then it looks like service X probably is doomed to fail just because it wasn't already established. Sounds like X isn't offering any additional value so of course a consumer is less likely to use it. If they offered compelling service then I would use it like any other metered content? As long as all the data is coming through at the same speed, I don't see an issue and instead see it as value-add for the consumer. Crying 'bbbbut its not FAIR!' when you offer nothing better over the competitors and insisting that everything is metered seems like a loss for the consumer.
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Feb 24, 2016 20:54
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Youtube did not opt into the program but t-mobile included them in the program anyways. Because Youtube uses https t-mobile can't really affect the content so instead they throttled speeds from Youtube (only for customers using the "binge on" unlimited video streaming feature). In theory Youtube would detect the speed automatically and downgrade the video quality on their own but in practice it made the entire site run like poo poo.
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Feb 24, 2016 21:04
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Ranter posted:Is t-mobile giving bandwidth priority (QoS) resulting in slowing down of other services? If yes then I agree it's a huge net neutrality issue. That's a reduction in value to the consumer. Okay, well maybe you would be happy to pay $10 base per month + $10 bandwidth per month for "NetflixAlternative with slightly better algorithms", but me (and I suspect most other people) would just pay the $10 per month for "Netflix". You don't see how that can be unfair and heavily abused by a company like Google?
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Feb 24, 2016 21:07
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How do you figure that you're paying more? This is value adding, not subtracting.
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Feb 24, 2016 21:18
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Ranter posted:How do you figure that you're paying more? This is value adding, not subtracting. Tomato Tomato. Megacorp owns the pipelines and MegaMusic. Megacorp's default billing system is to bill you for each pip in the pipeline, but if you use MegaMusic then you don't get billed for any pips. If everyone is using Megacorp's pipeline, then why would anyone ever use BetterMusic if they have to pay more? The end result is paying more for BetterMusic regardless of whether the billing structure is "Don't pay for MegaMusic!  " or "Pay MORE/get lovely service for BetterMusic".The end result is more money being paid for one service rather than another at Megacorp's discretion. Do you disagree with that?
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Feb 24, 2016 21:32
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Tots posted:If everyone is using Megacorp's pipeline, then why would anyone ever use BetterMusic if they have to pay more? You don't pay more. You've already paid $50 with t-mobile for 2GB of metered data. T-mobile doesn't refund unused data like Google. I would use BetterMusic if it has something that Pandora doesn't. With T-mobile, I can get 50GB of music from Pandora and 2GB of music from BetterMusic totalling 52GB of data for $50. If t-mobile was forced to stop this, I would get 2GB of data for $50. If t-mobile are slowing down bettermusic and making it unusable THEN I have a problem with it.
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Feb 24, 2016 21:37
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Ranter posted:You don't pay more. You've already paid $50 with t-mobile for 2GB of metered data. T-mobile doesn't refund unused data like Google. I would use BetterMusic if it has something that Pandora doesn't. With T-mobile, I can get 50GB of music from Pandora and 2GB of music from BetterMusic totalling 52GB of data for $50. If t-mobile was forced to stop this, I would get 2GB of data for $50. I see your point, and I agree that in this specific case it probably is not harming anyone. My position is that it can (and will) be abused, so we should address the net neutrality aspect of it sooner rather than later. I'm imagining a large TeleCom with their hands elsewhere (Google/Comcast/etc..) that owns pipelines and imposes a bandwidth cap on those pipelines making it increasingly unappealing to use content services that they don't own. If my only choice for internet is Comcast and they impose a 50GB monthly limit on their service and say "But ShitStreamer doesn't count towards your limit!" like they're doing consumers a favor then that's a big problem for other content providers. Sure you can still use NetFlix, but you better believe you'd be getting up to that limit and you'd eventually end up paying more. E: And of course the argument would be "but T-Mo is doing it, why can't we?" All or nothing IMO and I'd rather nothing.
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Tots posted:E: And of course the argument would be "but T-Mo is doing it, why can't we?"
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Feb 24, 2016 22:16
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Anyone else having a problem with short code 2-factor authentication sms messages not coming through? I've contacted support about it, and they "escalated" the issue about a week ago, but I haven't heard back.
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Feb 25, 2016 20:58
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SuperiorColliculus posted:Anyone else having a problem with short code 2-factor authentication sms messages not coming through? No, been working fine for me for, Gmail, steam, work etc.
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Feb 25, 2016 21:10
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SuperiorColliculus posted:Anyone else having a problem with short code 2-factor authentication sms messages not coming through? I had that problem before, they escalate it and send you some really complex instructions. If they haven't sent you the instructions contact support again. Once I did the instructions it seemed to work from t hen on. I wasn't getting twitter or steam short codes for my 2 factor authentication. It works now. It's a KNOWN issue.
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Feb 26, 2016 01:51
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Darkpriest667 posted:I had that problem before, they escalate it and send you some really complex instructions. If they haven't sent you the instructions contact support again. Once I did the instructions it seemed to work from t hen on. I wasn't getting twitter or steam short codes for my 2 factor authentication. It works now. It's a KNOWN issue. Do you or your girlfriend still have the instructions?
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Feb 26, 2016 02:24
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Ranter posted:Do you or your girlfriend still have the instructions? Yes here you go. . I will be more than happy to help you out further. I just need some help from you! Go ahead and follow the instructions below. Once I get the information from you and can escalate this up to my specialists. Let’s make sure Hangouts or any other third party apps are disabled, and let’s run some tests on the Messenger app: We can start by turning Airplane Mode ON and WiFi ON to force SMS through WiFI Now, please send a couple of test messages, incoming and receiving, and if you can send those examples in the following format: SMS to/from ********** @ time, timezone, date, device type,carrier if known, and error messages SMS to/from ********** @ time, timezone, date, device type,carrier if known, and error messages SMS to/from ********** @ time, timezone, date, device type,carrier if known, and error messages After, please take a Bug Report. On your phone, go into Settings > About Phone. Touch "Build Number" 7 times. Go back to Settings, and Developer Options will now appear in the menu. Touch Developer Options, and use the On/Off switch at the top to turn it On. Near the bottom, turn on USB Debugging. Touch Take a bug report. Confirm by tapping REPORT. In about 20 seconds, you'll get a notification saying "Bug report captured." (The bug report is comprised of a .txt and .png file). Touch the notification. It should give you a pop-up. Select Share with Gmail. Email the bug report to yourself, and then attach the two files to an email back to my team. (We'll actually need the .txt and .png files as email attachments. Please attach them directly instead of sharing them with Google Drive.) Then, can you provide Feedback through the Fi app about the issue Tap the Support tab. Towards the bottom, tap "Tell us what you think." Describe what happened. Include the hashtag #fisupport. Make sure the box is checked next to "Include screenshots and system logs". From the top right corner, touch the arrow to send. (Can you then turn your Airplane Mode and WiFi OFF for the rest of the tests) Now, we’ll be dialing *#*#34777#*#* to force you onto the Sprint network. Then, please send a couple of test messages, incoming and receiving, and if you can send those examples in the following format: SMS to/from ********** @ time, timezone, date, device type,carrier if known, and error messages SMS to/from ********** @ time, timezone, date, device type,carrier if known, and error messages SMS to/from ********** @ time, timezone, date, device type,carrier if known, and error messages After, please take another Bug Report. Lastly, leave Feedback through the Fi app again. Then, we’ll start all over and dial *#*#34866#*#* to force you onto the T-Mobile network. Then, please send a couple of test messages, incoming and receiving, and if you can send those examples in the following format: SMS to/from ********** @ time, timezone, date, device type,carrier if known, and error messages SMS to/from ********** @ time, timezone, date, device type,carrier if known, and error messages SMS to/from ********** @ time, timezone, date, device type,carrier if known, and error messages After, please take one last Bug Report. And if you can leave Feedback through the Fi app one more time. You can then dial *#*#342886#*#* to go back to auto-switching. It was my pleasure helping you today. If you have any other questions you can contact the Project Fi team directly at any time by replying to this email and we'll get back to you as soon as possible! Thank you for those bug reports! Also, the timestamps that we need are for the failed verification text messages. If you need some shortcodes to try out just text HELP to these numbers: Bank Of America 692632 Chase 242733 Citicards 42904 Just fill in the pertinent information in the form sent. Once we have that we can have our engineering team look into this. This is the only fix we currently have for this issue, so we would need you to follow these steps to help us resolve your issue.
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Those numbers to force you onto tmobile/sprint/autoswitching networks, those could be really useful for other things right?
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Just use FiSpy or whatever he's calling it now.
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I just got my invite. I'm planning on buying a 6P and moving over to Fi in July when my contract when AT&T ends (and my dad stops paying the bill). The one thing I'm worried about is losing my number. I have a really awesome/easy to remember cell phone number and I just wanted to ask you guys how fast the 'number-transfer' process is. I'm just paranoid about someone coming along and snatching my number while it's being switched over. Granted I don't really understand how all of that works to it's probably an irrational fear. Also will I be able to move the same number to a different carrier later?
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64bit_Dophins posted:The one thing I'm worried about is losing my number. My AT&T to Fi took about 5 minutes. And that was because I waited till after sign up to do the port instead of at sign up, so I had to contact support. Basically, it'll be instant assuming you have the right information that is associated with your AT&T account.
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64bit_Dophins posted:I just got my invite. I'm planning on buying a 6P and moving over to Fi in July when my contract when AT&T ends (and my dad stops paying the bill). Porting a number means that you don't lose it; it cancels your service immediately with your previous carrier. Let's say you're moving from Verizon to Fi. You contact Fi, and you port your number over. Your number is removed from Verizon service. If you have a contract with Verizon, they automatically charge you an ETF. If not, they automatically send you a final bill. Your number is still yours though it may take varying amounts of time for your new service to begin. Let's say you don't port by contacting Fi -- let's say you're confused, so first you call Verizon and cancel your service. That is, you did not set up service with another carrier and port your number over. What happens is that as soon as you cancel, your number is "released" and is available to Verizon customers. Verizon customers are not able to know this exactly, but what will happen is that in a store somewhere a Verizon employee setting up a new phone for a customer says, "Here are a few options for a cell number," which are given to him by an automated computer system. The new customer might choose yours, in which case it's gone. Even if it isn't gone, you have zero way of retrieving it, even if you beg Verizon or reinstate service. So: do not cancel your service. Contact your new provider first, and tell them you are porting your number from another service.
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Ranter posted:Those numbers to force you onto tmobile/sprint/autoswitching networks, those could be really useful for other things right? I'm not sure what other than forcing you onto a certain network.
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One little wrinkle porting from Verizon: My cell number was the "primary" account for our Verizon Online services (change service plans, pay the bill, monitor usage, etc), and we had 6 numbers on the account. But I was using less than a gig of data a month on my phone, so it made sense for me to switch to Fi... I am saving about $50/month. But my point is, I ported my number, and as it was the "primary" for the website account, we got locked out. Had to call CustServe. But they were able to make my wife's the primary pretty quick, so nbd I guess. But just something to be aware of.
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Feb 28, 2016 04:53
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Quick question on the invite process: I'd need to buy a new phone for this, should I request an invite and buy the phone when it comes in? Or buy the phone now? Or can I guarantee an invite by buying the phone? I don't know if the invites are guaranteed, if there's an actual wait, or if they expire, basically. Everything else makes sense, it looks like it'll save me about $30/month so the phone will effectively pay for itself - and I can curb my data usage pretty easily. Coming from an OPO, now I just have to figure out which phone makes more sense.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Quick question on the invite process: I would request the invite right now, as it doesn't expire. Sometimes they come fast, sometimes not depending on area. If there's a sale or something, I probably wouldn't wait to buy the phone. But if it's not going to get more expensive why not wait to order the phone?
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Shooting Blanks posted:Quick question on the invite process: Pretty sure if you are eligible, you'll get an invite. I had the invite on hand and initialized before the phone was available and when the phone shipped I received the sim the same as the phone in separate parcels. You do not get charged until the sim is inserted and activated.
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canyoneer posted:I would request the invite right now, as it doesn't expire. Sometimes they come fast, sometimes not depending on area. Do Google phones ever go on sale, unless brand new models are about to come out?
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Feb 29, 2016 21:37
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Shooting Blanks posted:Do Google phones ever go on sale, unless brand new models are about to come out? I got a 5x from Google at 32gb for $350 (so $50 off) in December and it looks like the 16gb 5x is going for $270 online these days from other sellers
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My wife has found a weird distortion effect on her front-facing camera on her 5x. Everything near the top and bottom edges seems to distort...I'm not sure if it's a lens issue or not, but Google seems unable/unwilling to replace the device. She's not interested in getting a 6p, so she may not be long for the Fi world. Glass of Milk fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Why do you think it's Fi related? If you factory reset the phone, don't install any apps and it's still doing it then demand a warranty replacement.
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I don't think it is. I just know a lot more people in this thread will have had experience with the 5x than those in the Android thread. I think it's almost certainly a lens issue. I ordered back in October when they first came out so maybe I'll try a replacement
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Do any of you know how to set separate volumes for the phone speaker and Bluetooth devices? For example, if I'm listening to music on my Bluetooth headset, I want to hear notifications through it as well, but if my headset gets disconnected or I turn it off, I'd like the phone to revert to vibrate/no sound. My old Moto X did this and I'm not sure if there's a setting I don't know about or it is simply and OS change.
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So I have tried to switch from hangouts to messenger. Set messenger as default and send a text to someone with messenger. Bam, reply comes in via hangouts. Wtf? This is a consistent thing and has happened before a few times.
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Mercury Ballistic posted:So I have tried to switch from hangouts to messenger. Set messenger as default and send a text to someone with messenger. Bam, reply comes in via hangouts. Wtf? This is a consistent thing and has happened before a few times. Do you have hangouts integration enabled?
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Mercury Ballistic posted:So I have tried to switch from hangouts to messenger. Set messenger as default and send a text to someone with messenger. Bam, reply comes in via hangouts. Wtf? This is a consistent thing and has happened before a few times. Is there any reason why you're switching? I'm still undecided as to which I like better.
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