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WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Endless Mike posted:

The Crystal of Cyttorak is kinda cool, too, though you end up with a malevolent god riding your rear end if you're not going all Limp Bizkit all the time.

I'm okay with that, Break Stuff is how I feel all the time already.

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redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
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Grimey Drawer

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

another dark horse candidate (no pun intended): Grendel's awesome double-forked lance.
Yeah, that thing's pretty sweet. Good call.

My vote is for the good ole Bat-grappling hook. It can cover almost any distance, it can attach itself to literally everything, provides quick and COMPLETELY SAFE fast travel whether indoors or out, can fit in your pocket, and is probably the one thing that has saved Batman's life more times than anything else over the years. The best part is that it seems like something that should and could exist in the real world, but so far, notachance.

edit: this stage prop is pretty cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv5Nc4QXd9A

redbackground fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Feb 29, 2016

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

redbackground posted:

Yeah, that thing's pretty sweet. Good call.

My vote is for the good ole Bat-grappling hook. It can cover almost any distance, it can attach itself to literally everything, provides quick and COMPLETELY SAFE fast travel whether indoors or out, can fit in your pocket, and is probably the one thing that has saved Batman's life more times than anything else over the years. The best part is that it seems like something that should and could exist in the real world, but so far, notachance.

edit: this stage prop is pretty cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv5Nc4QXd9A

I think you can count the entire utility belt as a single item, and that's got pretty much anything you could possibly need in it.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

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Travis343 posted:

I think you can count the entire utility belt as a single item, and that's got pretty much anything you could possibly need in it.

Nah. Smoke pellets and lockpicks come and go. Grapple gun is forever.

Anil Dikshit
Apr 11, 2007
Batman's kryptonite ring. Bet there's wear marks on the band with how often it comes off the stand just in case.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

redbackground posted:

Nah. Smoke pellets and lockpicks come and go. Grapple gun is forever.

Utility belt's got the grapple gun, though. And the kryptonite ring, and the pretty girl repellent or whatever else. It's a quantum state of preparedness, it's contents are undetermined until the wearer is in some kind of death trap, then it's got whatever you need.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Would it be fair to describe Wonder Woman as the female version of Superman?

Dr. Hurt
Oct 23, 2010

I would probably say more of the female counterpart to superman? If you boil down the characters to just their powers, sure both Superman and Wonder Woman are strong and they fly. But Wonder Woman is so deeply connected to Greek Mythology that her attitude and personality distinguish her as something completely different. Where Superman is the last hope of a doomed world, Wonder Woman is an amazonian diplomat who isn't always afraid to use force. That's a very broad description and I'm sure others could do better but they each have their own unique personality differences.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Ultragonk posted:

Would it be fair to describe Wonder Woman as the female version of Superman?

That's Supergirl.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

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Squizzle posted:

That's Supergirl. Power Girl

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I don't remember Superman being 90% jokes about his chest.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




redbackground posted:

Squizzle posted:

That's Supergirl. Power Girl Superwoman of Earth-11, the obligatory genderswap world

haitfais
Aug 7, 2005

I am offended by your ham, sir.

Ultragonk posted:

Would it be fair to describe Wonder Woman as the female version of Superman?

It would be fair to describe her as the female version of Wonder Woman.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Wheat Loaf posted:

There's also Crimson Bands of Cyttorak.

That's a spell, not an object.

E;fb

As for the Eye of Agamatto, it's pretty cool, but if I could only pick one the cloak is slightly more stylish.

Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 1, 2016

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Ultragonk posted:

Would it be fair to describe Wonder Woman as the female version of Superman?

Not really, no.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Wonder Woman is maybe the only female superhero as recognizable as Superman, but Batman's more popular than either of them.

People think this because Superman and Wonder Woman share, roughly, the same color palette, the same WWII pulp patriotic history, and a few of the same superpowers, but then people like Martian Manhunter also have most of Superman's powers, too, and they all come from wildly different sources. Wonder Woman is lacking in the breath and eye beam departments, but she has an arsenal of magical weapons and artifacts that Superman would be weak to.

Wonder Woman and Superman share a lot of the same philosophies, i.e. a belief in doing what's right and saving lives, but Wonder Woman has a level of pragmatism to her, where she is willing to be more direct and violent than Superman or Batman. She's sort of like Captain America in that she's also a soldier, and knows that sometimes in a war, people get killed. I would think she hates that level of violence (she is an ambassador of peace, and frequently professes her love for all living beings) but views it as necessary sometimes, while Superman and Batman would view it as a line they must never cross.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
It's sorta weird that Wonder Woman morphed into the character more willing to kill than Batman or Superman, since that's almost the exact opposite of her creator's intention.

Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Mar 1, 2016

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
The original Wonder Woman would be more than a little weird to try and translate to the modern day. Most people would likely think she was some sort of parody. Or, alternately, a spinoff for Empowered.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Alien Rope Burn posted:

The original Wonder Woman would be more than a little weird to try and translate to the modern day. Most people would likely think she was some sort of parody. Or, alternately, a spinoff for Empowered.

You can find out next month.
http://www.dccomics.com/graphic-novels/wonder-woman-earth-one-vol-1

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

That cover makes me feel like some kind of physic.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Skwirl posted:

that's almost the exact opposite of her creator's intention.

This is true for Batman too, and only recently did Morrison bring Superman back to his more populist roots.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Travis343 posted:

This is true for Batman too, and only recently did Morrison bring Superman back to his more populist roots.

Yeah, for a single issue.

Mr. Maltose
Feb 16, 2011

The Guffless Girlverine
I always thought a good angle for Wonder Woman would be, in relation to her comparison to Superman, to be culturally what Superman is personally. Superman inspires people to be the best versions of themselves (The climax of All Star Superman is literally about developing Superman's greatest power: Super-Humanity.) Wonder Woman comes as an ambassador, trying to uplift how humanity governs itself. She's Mythic Greece, not just mythic in that there are minotaurs and gods. Mythic Greece as in Greece the origin of democracy, Mythic Greece the philosophic foundation of western humanism. She should show us that we as humanity, not just individuals, are capable of fairness and goodness and cooperation if we are willing to truly embrace those concepts.

No one will ever write that Wonder Woman but it'd be awesome.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Lurdiak posted:

Yeah, for a single issue.

It was a good issue. :smith:

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Travis343 posted:

It was a good issue. :smith:

Yeah but then Superman learned he had to move beyond the pettiness of righting actual wrongs and had to fight Lex Luthor and dumb alien bullshit instead.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
I think WW should be an interesting look at the concept of BDSM and stuff like the original creator intended. Props to Morrison for trying, but I don't think he did it well even though I do think that one review was bullshit. That also shouldn't be the driving idea behind DC's #1 female superhero but they already shot themselves in the foot on that.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Even if they aren't being explicit about smacking slum lords around there's usually a component of Superman being a champion of the down trodden in most of his stuff. And whatever else goes on in Batman, he's still an rear end kicking super detective. Wonder Woman was specifically created to be a less violent counterpart to her contemporaries. She was more powerful than her villains but she'd find non-violent or at least less violent ways of defeating them. (Also bondage pin-ups)

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Mr. Maltose posted:

The climax of All Star Superman is literally about developing Superman's greatest power: Super-Humanity.)



The hyperspecialist doesn't have the broad understanding to see how connected we all are. He's trying too hard—too many syllables.



Wait a second—



Aw, Lex. You always were a couple of syllables short of empathy.



That's been your problem this whole time: you never tried—never cared—hard enough. Not even at your best and most brilliant. It was never Superman's fault.

Mover
Jun 30, 2008


Hey weird question: in any of the little marvel comics has a baby ghost rider ever penance stare-d another small child and made them live the full weight of not having shared their granola nut bar or what was the outcome?

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
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Grimey Drawer


That's all you get.

Mr. Maltose
Feb 16, 2011

The Guffless Girlverine


Technically that might be a complete haiku as it's not actually measured by syllables but morae. Hell if I'm measuring those out though.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Mover posted:

Hey weird question: in any of the little marvel comics has a baby ghost rider ever penance stare-d another small child and made them live the full weight of not having shared their granola nut bar or what was the outcome?

For some reason this made me think of when I was like five or something, I stole someone's toy at a Christmas get together and framed a cousin so I could investigate the case. It was like a PG version of that fireman arson.

Anyway the point is a penance stare as a kid would have destroyed me because I was always really concerned with being Good and felt horrible and not at all like my fictional idols if I thought I did something wrong. Child Ghost Rider could actually be really dark and creepy.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Gavok posted:

Read it the correct way:

- Check out the first two issues.

- Get your hopes up.

- Wait about three years.

- Finish the series.

- Try to remember what all the hype was about.

I read it and it ended kind of flat like they didn't really want to kill off the Hulk but can't have a guy who killer 800 people just come back.

Onto more ultimates!

Squizzle posted:

That's Supergirl.

Well she's more of a side player Wonder Woman seems to have a higher profile like Superman

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

kizudarake posted:

Batman's kryptonite ring. Bet there's wear marks on the band with how often it comes off the stand just in case.

Luthor had a kryptonite ring, but he wore it all the time, got cancer, had to have his hand amputated, faked his own death, and came back as a clone of himself pretending to be his own illegitimate Australian son.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Wheat Loaf posted:

Luthor had a kryptonite ring, but he wore it all the time, got cancer, had to have his hand amputated, faked his own death, and came back as a clone of himself pretending to be his own illegitimate Australian son.

He then started to bang Supergirl.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Wheat Loaf posted:

Luthor had a kryptonite ring, but he wore it all the time, got cancer, had to have his hand amputated, faked his own death, and came back as a clone of himself pretending to be his own illegitimate Australian son.

At the time that happened the ring Batman has is actually that same ring.

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.



I'd say Wonder Woman is more comparable to Thor than Superman

haitfais
Aug 7, 2005

I am offended by your ham, sir.

Ultragonk posted:

Well she's more of a side player Wonder Woman seems to have a higher profile like Superman

Or like Wonder Woman. She's not "the female version of Superman" for the same reason he's not "the male version of Wonder Woman".

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

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Dacap posted:

I'd say Wonder Woman is more comparable to Thor than Superman

I would agree with this.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

bobkatt013 posted:

He then started to bang Supergirl.

Or more accurately, a kind of grey goo entity that took the form of Supergirl.

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