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ElehemEare
May 20, 2001
I am an omnipotent penguin.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

In eastern Canada, TWO provinces use the same area code because the population is that low. Both PEI (Prince Edward Island) and Nova Scotia are in the 902.

To be fair, we share two area codes now.

But hell if I'm going to get a 782 number. :colbert:

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Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Uncle Wemus posted:

Kids at school would steal the mouse balls all the time

It became standard procedure at the end of computer class for the teacher to say 'mice up' so she could inspect each one before we were dismissed.
Oh the trials I have lived through.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I didn't go to a school for criminals so no-one stole the balls :shrug:

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Uh, finding out those balls could be taken out and stolen was a 90's kid rite-of-passage. They used to trade them at recess for pokemon cards.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

drat that "comedy" was somehow even worse than I expected it to be.

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot

The Bible posted:

I worked at Best Buy in college and to dial out, you had to hit 91, then 1 + area code and number. If you didn't do it pretty fast, you'd call 911.

Staples does this same stupid poo poo and I called the cops four times trying to call customers to tell them to come pick up their lovely computer when I worked there

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Uh, finding out those balls could be taken out and stolen was a 90's kid rite-of-passage. They used to trade them at recess for pokemon cards.

So were you a crip or a blood?

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

slidebite posted:

drat that "comedy" was somehow even worse than I expected it to be.

Oh yes, it's terrifically horrible. The over-acting, the Matthew Perryness of it all... just horrible stuff.

I of course watched it all the way through again last night.

woodch
Jun 13, 2000

This'll kill ya!

Hah! No, but our office basement is jam packed with old-rear end telco equipment that includes a bunch of decommissioned ISDN modems.

Buddy of mine actually had an ISDN connection in his apartment in, like... 2001-ish? I remember scrolling through pic threads here and marveling at HOW FAST EVERYTHING LOADED! Impressive to think that just 15 years ago, 128kbps seemed like lightning speed, and now internet speeds of more than 100x that are considered "entry-level tier" internet speed.

:corsair: I'm tellin' ya. We had it tough back then.

Squish
Nov 22, 2007

Unrelenting.
Lipstick Apathy

Data Graham posted:

(Some not-well-behaved apps advertised being able to open anything, a huge list of type codes. Sometimes they could get their claws into the system and you could never get them out. Ever gone into a campus Mac lab and tried double-clicking a file and got a message about something called "Sparkle FAT"? gently caress Sparkle FAT :argh: )

Ahahaha. I googled "sparkle fat" and got this:

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Jerry Cotton posted:

So were you a crip or a blood?

Nah son, I traded floppies.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Nah son, I traded floppies.

You know I'm rather gangsta myself.

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

Squish posted:

Ahahaha. I googled "sparkle fat" and got this:


That reminds me: gently caress you to whoever linked "sparkle fat" on Amazon!

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe
:twisted: If I have to know about that then so do you.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


I guess this is off-topic because unfortunately bronies aren't yet an internet relic :negative:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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slidebite posted:

drat that "comedy" was somehow even worse than I expected it to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMZcXQCYwG0

(the original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_s5-R_JE4c )

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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And if we're talking about this stuff, I'm not going to not post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noEHHB6rnMI

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Your mission, should you choose to accept it is to make an interesting video about Windows. This zip disk will self destruct in five seconds. *CLICK* *CLICK* *CLICK* *CLICK* *CLICK*

Edit: Is that OS/2? We haven't approved that yet!

Don't worry, this is Windows 386. I assume this is fine even though it probably hasn't been approved either. You can use it to add pictures of the space shuttle to every page of your business report.

Cojawfee has a new favorite as of 04:22 on Feb 28, 2016

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Data Graham posted:

I've got three of those machines sitting in my attic; they're so badass I can't bring myself to ever let them go. I feel like someday they'll come back into vogue, like the Cylons will be able to foil any technology based on Intel and the earth's only hope is to coax from retirement the last best champion from Motorola.

The way those things handled airflow was :awesome:



Also why the gently caress did it take until this thing for case designers to think of putting the power supply on the bottom :aaaaa:

I know this was a few days ago but I just bought a (sealed brand new for $12) Nvidia quadro card that was sold as a custom build option for the last generation of the powermac g5s and stuck it in my newly acquired ppc relic and also put a stray 3tb drive I had lying around. The drive mounting bay is awesome. It has these little rounded screws you put into the screw-holes of the drive and rounded slots to slide the drive into, guided by the screw-heads. The cabling is smartly routed around the bay so it's in the exact right spot once the drive is in. As soon as I figured out how it worked I got sad that I didn't have any rounded screws of my own to put a second drive in there but I looked closely at the plastic tab right next to the bay and what's there? 4 rounded screws just to use on a second drive.

I love this thing.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I nearly wept when I discovered those things in mine, when it was brand new.

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



The Kins posted:

...Zeliard, which is an odd side-scrolling Action RPG...


I played the gently caress out of this game! If you go in and out of the weapon smith shop the guy gets pissed at you and slams the desk, at the time my five year old self thought it was SO REALISTIC.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Data Graham posted:

I nearly wept when I discovered those things in mine, when it was brand new.

I really love installing hardware into my mac pro, because everything just loving fits.

Not that I couldn't get it all to fit with a PC, but you know what I mean.

The only thing that bugs me is the huge potential for buying the wrong video card :ohdear: I do know what to look for, and I know there are sites out there to help, but I wish I didn't need them.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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Apple really does have a knack for cases it seems, the Performa 475 I have here doesn't have a single screw. You can take this thing completely apart (and put it back together) in 5 minutes with your bare hands. There are some very nice PC cases but I've never seen something quite like that, and that thing is from '93 - '94 which was a time when you could be happy if the inside of computer cases wouldn't slice your hands off. Cooling is a bit meh and so is the power supply but hey!




If that isn't neat I do not know what is.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Police Automaton posted:

Apple really does have a knack for cases it seems, the Performa 475 I have here doesn't have a single screw. You can take this thing completely apart (and put it back together) in 5 minutes with your bare hands. There are some very nice PC cases but I've never seen something quite like that, and that thing is from '93 - '94 which was a time when you could be happy if the inside of computer cases wouldn't slice your hands off. Cooling is a bit meh and so is the power supply but hey!




If that isn't neat I do not know what is.

No kidding, those pizza box Performas were a walk in the park to clean and service. Just pop the lid off, pop out the floppy drive and pop it's lid off, then a squirt or two from an air compressor and you're done. But yeah the cooling was a joke- given its shape everyone wanted to use it as a monitor stand, which inevitably blocked the only vent.

I spent a summer cleaning all of the computers in my school district's labs, most of which were those pizza boxes... only issues we ever had was removing all of the trash students would cram into the floppy drives. I'll never forget having to pull a condom out of one of them. Well, that and the system 7 image we burned to a CD (at 1x- start it and go take a long lunch break!) for wiping and reinstalling all the computers having a virus on it. Unfortunately we didn't realize until several hundred of the fuckers had been kindly cleaned & infected.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Police Automaton posted:

Apple really does have a knack for cases it seems, the Performa 475 I have here doesn't have a single screw. You can take this thing completely apart (and put it back together) in 5 minutes with your bare hands. There are some very nice PC cases but I've never seen something quite like that, and that thing is from '93 - '94 which was a time when you could be happy if the inside of computer cases wouldn't slice your hands off. Cooling is a bit meh and so is the power supply but hey!




If that isn't neat I do not know what is.

My last desktop had a NZXT Apollo case. It was a totally screwless design and everything just fastened in with clips. The Radeon X800 I had in it was a bit fat and heavy and caused one of the clips to weaken after so many trips over rural Newfoundland roads when moving back and forth from college between semesters. Thankfully it was designed so that you were still able to use screws to secure your cards!

Combined with a modular power supply it was a dream to open up and work with.

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO
I'm not sure about desktops anymore but I know that a lot of the newer Dell servers we have (and some of the SuperMicros) are almost entirely tool-free as well.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

du -hast posted:

I'm not sure about desktops anymore but I know that a lot of the newer Dell servers we have (and some of the SuperMicros) are almost entirely tool-free as well.

A decent business computer like a Dell Optiplex or Precision typically doesn't need a screwdriver for harddrives, expansion cards, drives and other parts. The only parts that need a screwdriver are the motherboard and PSU.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


evobatman posted:

A decent business computer like a Dell Optiplex or Precision typically doesn't need a screwdriver for harddrives, expansion cards, drives and other parts. The only parts that need a screwdriver are the motherboard and PSU.

I'm sure that due to the amount of times 'the new guy' doing work in the server room would lose a screw in a cabinet and find it shorting something out later.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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I also have/had screwless and tool-less (this distinction is important, they still have screws, you just do not need a screwdriver) cases, my current one is a bit older Lian Li big tower case which also is screwless for expansion cards and drives. It's nice but not as nice as that Performa. Well if you do not design every single part of the computer, there are limits to what you can do, so it's understandable. I'm probably the only one but I liked Desktop cases. I also like the non-flashy and unassuming, professional-looking beige/white look of these old cases like the Performa. A lot of these modern tower designs really are ludicrous or get old very, very quickly, IMHO.

You can trick out the Performa a little bit by moving a few jumper resistors around and clocking the board to 33 Mhz. Not really much of an overclock in the common sense as you can find the same chipset in 33 Mhz machines, this especially improves graphic performance. The CPU normally on those things is a 25 mhz rated LC040. (without FPU) Now the 040 already get toasty and aren't great overclockers, so I replaced mine with a full 040, 33 Mhz rated part. These need to be passively cooled to really stay stable (especially in a case like this) so I also desoldered the CPU-Socket and soldered the CPU directly onto the board. In parts so that it can transfer some heat into the ground plane of the mainboard (Sockets don't transfer heat well at all in my experience) but mostly so I can fit a bigger heatsink and still close the case. Also replaced all the caps on the mainboard and power supply, (which all were in various states of leaking) fit a better fan and also a network card. The harddrive sadly bit it a while ago and I'm still looking for something that's as low power and doesn't cost an arm and an leg, as the power supply doesn't really have much headroom and the original harddrive was very low power considering the age. Love this little thing and it's simple OS, if I was an eccentric author I'd use it as a typewriter or something.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

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theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug
Speaking of terrible cases, lgr posted a new video trying to fix a 2000 era PC. It goes as well as expected.

http://youtu.be/TfhmBcBPNyc

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


^That reflowing was a bit scary. I'd be nervous about putting any electronics no matter how worthless in the oven.

Now would a iBook G4 play most Mac games from the 90s? They're pretty reasonably priced and don't take up poo poo tons of space like a desktop would, kind of tempting.

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


Casimir Radon posted:

Now would a iBook G4 play most Mac games from the 90s? They're pretty reasonably priced and don't take up poo poo tons of space like a desktop would, kind of tempting.


I'm not super knowledgeable on this but I think if you want to run 90s Mac stuff you are going to want something that will actually run Mac OS 9 or less.

Here's a list of the last machines that were capable of booting the classic MacOS series.

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

I'm not super knowledgeable on this but I think if you want to run 90s Mac stuff you are going to want something that will actually run Mac OS 9 or less.

Here's a list of the last machines that were capable of booting the classic MacOS series.

I'm about to do a yellowdog hobby box if I get bored enough.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

I'm not super knowledgeable on this but I think if you want to run 90s Mac stuff you are going to want something that will actually run Mac OS 9 or less.

Here's a list of the last machines that were capable of booting the classic MacOS series.
Didn't even think of the Powerbook line, a little more expensive but not terribly. Space is the thing I'd be most interesting in saving at this stage. Not quite as exciting since the G4 looks almost the same as my old Santa Rosa MacBook Pro.

Now the funny thing about the MacBook Pro is that while you're technically only supposed to be able to slot in 4gb of ram, you can actually do 6.

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

I'm about to do a yellowdog hobby box if I get bored enough.
Initially read that as YellowTAB, now there's a bizarre story.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

I would not get a Titanium powerbook, the fan in those is annoyingly loud. It's a shame because the rest of the machine looks and feels really nice (apart from the paint chipping)

For retro mac gaming I would consider an old iBook, they are more than powerful enough and fairly quiet. The older models are completely fanless,even! I have a white iBook G3/500 and a bondi clamshell G3 that is 250mhz or something. Most of the games of the 90s were made to run on anything from 33mhz to 200mhz so any of these laptops will do just fine.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


error1 posted:

I would not get a Titanium powerbook, the fan in those is annoyingly loud. It's a shame because the rest of the machine looks and feels really nice (apart from the paint chipping)

For retro mac gaming I would consider an old iBook, they are more than powerful enough and fairly quiet. The older models are completely fanless,even! I have a white iBook G3/500 and a bondi clamshell G3 that is 250mhz or something. Most of the games of the 90s were made to run on anything from 33mhz to 200mhz so any of these laptops will do just fine.

I got a titanium for free a few years ago - only problem is that one of the hinges is broken. I thought it would be an easy fix, nope! The part that broke was the main chassis side - and to be honest - my fix was using the apple sticker to try and at least keep it roughly in its right position.

- I really should dig it out of my cupboard. I do like the titaniums, and if memory serves me - there was a long lost unfinished Eclipse project on it that I wouldn't mind looking back on.

0toShifty
Aug 21, 2005
0 to Stiffy?

Casimir Radon posted:

^That reflowing was a bit scary. I'd be nervous about putting any electronics no matter how worthless in the oven.

Now would a iBook G4 play most Mac games from the 90s? They're pretty reasonably priced and don't take up poo poo tons of space like a desktop would, kind of tempting.

I disassembled a Macbook Pro which was having the infamous nvidia issues, and reflowed the motherboard. It was totally non-functional anyway, so I figured I had nothing to loose. It freaking worked!

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams
At work we use Dell's 90% of the time for our desktop computers. I still have a couple of those god awful clam shell cases around. What the gently caress were they thinking when they made those?

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azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


Mad Monk posted:

At work we use Dell's 90% of the time for our desktop computers. I still have a couple of those god awful clam shell cases around. What the gently caress were they thinking when they made those?



My favorite is when you would get a cable stuck in the hinge so the metal would cut it. That and not being able to shut the case even though there were no obstructions visible.

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