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Joementum posted:Several hours before you read the OP or the thread title, most likely. Yeah but someone's going to publish an illegal exit poll or something, right. Come on, give us something, this time zone sucks.
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poty posted:What time is Trump's victory speech scheduled? January 20
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Pinterest Mom posted:The worst part of the night will be when people start posting screenshots of posts Trump supporters made pretending to be Bernie supporting melting down. that's the cherry on top tho
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tranime scholar posted:I'm not going to support someone that I don't like or agree with. Doesn't mean that I'm not going to vote at all but I certainly won't be voting for a candidate that I don't want. Hardline Bernie supports shouldn't consider voting for Hillary in the general as a sign of support for Hillary or an indication you agree with her. Just consider it as you aligning yourself against the Republican candidate. If any Bernie supporter doesn't vote for Hillary in the general, they are basically saying "My candidate didn't win, I would rather let a republican win." In which case gently caress you, you petulant loving child.
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Mordiceius posted:Hardline Bernie supports shouldn't consider voting for Hillary in the general as a sign of support for Hillary or an indication you agree with her. Just consider it as you aligning yourself against the Republican candidate. Just to reiterate: if you don't live in a swing state your vote for president has absolutely no value and if you do live in a swing state it has incredibly marginal value, so gently caress you you petulant loving adult vote for whoever you want.
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If I grit my teeth and vote for her in the general election, I can still be all like "not my President  " when she does anything bad, right? I never got to do that with Bush because I couldn't vote yet.
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Nanomashoes posted:Just to reiterate: if you don't live in a swing state your vote for president has absolutely no value and if you do live in a swing state it has incredibly marginal value, so gently caress you you petulant loving adult vote for whoever you want. Swing states only become swing states if people contest them. Stop trying to think of reasons your not responsible for what happens in American government.
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a cop posted:No the saddest thing about this election is definitely the mom who killed her baby because she thought it was a good idea to take it to 9000 bernie rallies The baby died because Bernie did so bad in South Carolina. I thought that was obvious?
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Mordiceius posted:Hardline Bernie supports shouldn't consider voting for Hillary in the general as a sign of support for Hillary or an indication you agree with her. Just consider it as you aligning yourself against the Republican candidate. The progressive tendency to say gently caress you, you petulant loving child to people who disagree with them, as usual 
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Venom Snake posted:Swing states only become swing states if people contest them. Stop trying to think of reasons your not responsible for what happens in American government. Volunteering and donating is a million times more impactful than a single vote which affects nothing, hth.
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Mordiceius posted:Hardline Bernie supports shouldn't consider voting for Hillary in the general as a sign of support for Hillary or an indication you agree with her. Just consider it as you aligning yourself against the Republican candidate. This isn't going to happen in any significant quantity so I don't know why so many folks are always posting about it.
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Mar 1, 2016 21:09
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Did Hilary won yet? I need to start mocking all those BernieBros on my Facebook who's keep on harping about 'Free College! Free Healthcare! Standard living wages!'. SMH, they have no idea what reality is like at all.
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Mar 1, 2016 21:10
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Minsky posted:If I grit my teeth and vote for her in the general election, I can still be all like "not my President If you vote for Hillary in the general, I personally, solemnly swear that you will be granted the right to claim you voted for Jill Stein, unless you voted for Jill Stein, in which case, I will tell everyone you know you voted for Trump (if in a liberal area) or that you wrote in Sanders' name (if in a conservative area).
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Mar 1, 2016 21:12
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Luckyellow posted:Did Hilary won yet? I need to start mocking all those BernieBros on my Facebook who's keep on harping about 'Free College! Free Healthcare! Standard living wages!'. SMH, they have no idea what reality is like at all. Hillary's gonna win but Idk about feeling like anyone is getting owned here when hillary wins. The Yankees are supposed to win the world series, good job. The upstarts took it to game 5 this time.
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Mordiceius posted:Hardline Bernie supports shouldn't consider voting for Hillary in the general as a sign of support for Hillary or an indication you agree with her. Just consider it as you aligning yourself against the Republican candidate.
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Minsky posted:If I grit my teeth and vote for her in the general election, I can still be all like "not my President I wanted Kucinich in 2008 so I used that any time Obama did something lovely.
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crazy cloud posted:The progressive tendency to say gently caress you, you petulant loving child to people who disagree with them, as usual Sorry, but the attitude of "if I can't have the candidate I wanted, then I'm going to take my ball and go home" is super loving childish. I'm voting Bernie in the primary and will always support him, but when Hillary gets the nomination I'll support her too. You can't always get exactly what you want. So grow up and be an adult.
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I'm feeling good about this, I think we will finally decide the voting strategically or voting for your best candidate debate here and now at last
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Fast Luck posted:Counterpoint: The Democratic Party is part of what's wrong with America and if you vote for Hillary you're part of the problem. Besides, if Hillary gets the nom, then America's getting a Republican president no matter how you slice it  edit: also, if you're actually trying to convince Bernie supporters to vote for Hillary in the general, then maybe being a condescending dick isn't the way to do it, cuz chances are pretty good that you'll just further entrench the "Bernie or Bust" crowd (of which I'm a part). Perhaps it'd help to actually try and understand why they might feel that way rather than calling them babies. Mordiceius posted:Sorry, but the attitude of "if I can't have the candidate I wanted, then I'm going to take my ball and go home" is super loving childish. I'm voting Bernie in the primary and will always support him, but when Hillary gets the nomination I'll support her too. You can't always get exactly what you want. So grow up and be an adult. Son of Thunderbeast has issued a correction as of 21:19 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Fast Luck posted:Counterpoint: The Democratic Party is part of what's wrong with America and if you vote for Hillary you're part of the problem. Clearly, the best solution then is to just not participate and allow the GOP an easier road to the White House.
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Goetta posted:I'm feeling good about this, I think we will finally decide the voting strategically or voting for your best candidate debate here and now at last The real answer is that individual votes don't matter at all on a national level and we just lie to ourselves to make us seem important.
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Mar 1, 2016 21:19
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Draynar posted:I wanted Kucinich in 2008 What's wrong with you
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Mordiceius posted:Sorry, but the attitude of "if I can't have the candidate I wanted, then I'm going to take my ball and go home" is super loving childish. I'm voting Bernie in the primary and will always support him, but when Hillary gets the nomination I'll support her too. You can't always get exactly what you want. So grow up and be an adult. I live in a state that will not go red regardless of what I do. I voted for Obama in 2008 and Barr in 2012. I probably would have still voted for Barr in 2012 if I lived elsewhere, though 
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Besides, if Hillary gets the nom, then America's getting a Republican president no matter how you slice it Mordiceius posted:Clearly, the best solution then is to just not participate and allow the GOP an easier road to the White House.
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poty posted:What's wrong with you Kucinich owns, step off
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Mordiceius posted:Clearly, the best solution then is to just not participate and allow the GOP an easier road to the White House. Agreed. I want 8 years of a GOP supermajority and if there's anything left in 2024 we can start over.
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I think I am just sensitive to the subject, not because I care too much about any individual vote, but more so because I don't want that attitude spreading to others. The "If Bernie doesn't win, gently caress Hillary because I won't vote for her" types, from what I have seen, tend to be disproportionately vocal about it and the last thing we need is this toxic opinion to spread.
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I just remembered that Bush, Rubio and Cruz are all pledged to endorse Trump after he wins the nomination.
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Fast Luck posted:Yeah she's a full-on neocon tbh. There's no guarantee she won't be worse than Trump in terms of imperialism and the deaths of millions of people abroad. The alternative is the 100% chance of losing my health insurance and personally dying, unfortunately EDIT: Still frustrating not to have better choices, of course.
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Brannock posted:Kucinich owns, step off Completely irrelevant to how awesome Kucinich is politically, the dude is 5'4 or something and his wife is basically a supermodel so you know a dude like that has got to have some confidence like whoa. 
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The Kingfish posted:I just remembered that Bush, Rubio and Cruz are all pledged to endorse Trump after he wins the nomination. it will help their 2024 chances since they can claim they were POWs. i wonder if they'll blink in morse code during their endorsements.
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Oh and BTW today we move into the "trump is the presumptive nominee" phase of the campaign. I called this poo poo earlier than anyone and I love the timeline we are in most dearly. Welcome to hell, friends 
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Combed Thunderclap posted:The alternative is the 100% chance of losing my health insurance and personally dying, unfortunately the "lesser of two evils" argument doesn't play well to an audience that wouldn't be personally impacted very much by a republican presidency, unfortunately.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:The alternative is the 100% chance of losing my health insurance and personally dying, unfortunately I think that Donald Trump will improve our healthcare system.
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WampaLord posted:The real answer is that individual votes don't matter at all on a national level and we just lie to ourselves to make us seem important. I don't understand this. What do you think the votes at the national level are composed of? This is the same "logic" that young voters use to justify not voting and making old people over represented in the aggregate. ColdPie has issued a correction as of 21:36 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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pathetic little tramp posted:Completely irrelevant to how awesome Kucinich is politically, the dude is 5'4 or something and his wife is basically a supermodel so you know a dude like that has got to have some confidence like whoa. Kucinich is a cool dude who will forever be a punchline and that's a bummer. The Kingfish posted:I think that Donald Trump will improve our healthcare system. How
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TwinsensRevenge posted:the "lesser of two evils" argument doesn't play well to an audience that wouldn't be personally impacted very much by a republican presidency, unfortunately. Based on my survey of GBS 95% of SA's userbase is gay and therefore has tons to lose.
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