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So yeah, I think I just got an accessory I wasn't supposed to have yet. Magician's Bracelet +10(!) Magic. That and I got a staff that gave +8. Guess I'll be using the Sorceror as well, a Sorceror this playthrough. If Only I could get a freaking Warhammer Drop for my Abomination though.
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That reminds me, my priest in the Avernum LP is still wearing the "Slime-Covered Tunic" that the party found in the third town in the game. You'd think I'd've found something better for her by now! Does this game get more varied environments at any point? I mean, this is better than Wizardry, but it'd be hard for it not to be.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:That reminds me, my priest in the Avernum LP is still wearing the "Slime-Covered Tunic" that the party found in the third town in the game. You'd think I'd've found something better for her by now! Somewhat. The third cell block is pretty drastically different but the second one isn't all that memorable IIRC.
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I find it amusing that because of all the super-armor you've been finding your supposed tank character now has the worst defense in the party. Also your new av is even more horrifying than the last one, Chokes. 
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Jagged Jim posted:Also your new av is even more horrifying than the last one, Chokes. Such is the 2016 Republican Primary.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:That reminds me, my priest in the Avernum LP is still wearing the "Slime-Covered Tunic" that the party found in the third town in the game. You'd think I'd've found something better for her by now! 
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Silegna posted:So yeah, I think I just got an accessory I wasn't supposed to have yet. Magician's Bracelet +10(!) Magic. I wouldn't be so sure about that. dots are solid, but I have some issues with straight up magic damage in this game. Too many times I've gotten zero for damage on a target. It get's annoying after awhile  Silegna posted:So, I have a question: Why can't the Sorceror equip the Steel Claymore I picked up? Can he not equip it? Yes, the sorcerer class cannot equip the claymore or heavier weapons in general (or Katars, or chains). mauman fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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mauman posted:I wouldn't be so sure about that. So, I have a question: Why can't the Sorceror equip the Steel Claymore I picked up? Can he not equip it?
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Would equipping both give a set bonus?  (great picture)
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Oh hey, you're catching up to where I am. Guess I'd better play some more of this. ... Just one more day in Stardew Valley first. I don't have to play it, I just want to. I can quit anytime I want.
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Interesting that even enemies that can't hurt you can still disable you enough for their mates to get some real licks in.
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Chokes McGee posted:Also the puppet levels up. I drifted over here from the Avernum LP, and I'm not sure why, but this exchange made me laugh for a good five minutes. Maybe it's just been that kind of day.
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Silegna posted:So, I have a question: Why can't the Sorceror equip the Steel Claymore I picked up? Can he not equip it? the sorcerer at the start can only use daggers, maces, longswords and staves. there is a choice later on that can change that but by then you'll have better equipment. TooMuchAbstraction posted:Does this game get more varied environments at any point? I mean, this is better than Wizardry, but it'd be hard for it not to be. Nope, and it's probably on purpose for the atmosphere, the possibility of being stuck in a monochrome world for eternity is enough motivation for the sorcerer to escape, and not stay in sanctuary for the rest of his life. Shiva Asori fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Mar 6, 2016 |
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RickVoid posted:Oh hey, you're catching up to where I am. It's gotten so bad for me that I've started using Stardew Valley as a reward for doing things. "Go take a shower and you can play some Stardew Valley." " It's very addictive. As for Paper Sorcerer, I had started this game and got curbstomped by the second boss and stopped playing even though I meant to go back to it. Now, knowing that items are randomised, I feel the need to pick it back up again. The prospect of getting random stuff is something I like to play in a game (even if it's not great game design because lol balance).
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Shiva Asori posted:the sorcerer... Chokes is doing this blind. That might qualify as a spoiler, just saying. Either way, it feels wrong to talk about it till we actually get to that point. silversatyr posted:Stardew Valley What's this? Haven't heard of this one. Better check steam. .......... gently caress, better get my wallet  Thanks for the info. mauman fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Mar 6, 2016 |
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mauman posted:Chokes is doing this blind. I don't think it's a spoiler per se as the post was vague enough, but before this gets out of hand:  No spoilers. Not plot points, not equipment, not anything. Not even in spoiler tags.
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Canto II, Stanza 4: Decimation is Nine-Tenths of the Law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Ntc8IMwJ4    If you had that much trouble with him, I predict I'll be able to end you in two turns. I'll take that bet. Right on! For or against? ... Chief? Gimme a sec, I'm thinking. Not surprised. That knight was a moron. Besides, you'd have to be completely incompetent at your job if no one even knew your name. ... I mean, really useless.Here's our first real boss fight. Our chef today will be Gilex the Decimator.  AAAAAAAAAAAAHe'll be serving up AoEs with a side of pain. Gilex is a gigantic difficulty jump compared to what you've seen so far. He's not kidding about the Knight—that tin can was a really weak boss, and even he was enough to rearrange most people's faces if you're not expecting it. This guy? He's a million times worse. In fact, it's hard to appreciate just how bad he is because of our guys' ridiculously broken armor drops. That Wide Chop he started out with is probably a good 30-50 damage to the entire party. Remember how I said defense came down proportionally instead of one-to-one? I want you to keep in mind that, even against Fighters, we haven't seen worse than -11 Defense—and that's the max. This is the normal amount of damage Wide Chop does. Gilex is broken. All the bosses are broken. If we hadn't accidentally broken the game right back, this would be a major hurdle. In fact, this is usually where people drop out of Paper Sorcerer, because the stupid bald cuisinart just will. Not. Die. Loot is so important in this game that it's ridiculous. You will not get God-tier drops like this on most playthroughs. Consequently, this fight will be ugly. It's not all gloom and doom, though. You can level the playing field somewhat with ~strategy~. There's actually a lot of different ways to approach boss fights depending on your party composition, but here's how our guys usually roll. First and foremost, debuffs.  Chill out! Take a break! Argh! Are all of you this obnoxious? Witch attack should we use next? I could go for a bite! ArghDebuffs are important for two reasons: One, they almost always hit, and two, they'll lower the big guys' stats enough to take their hits from monstrous to barely manageable. Since we've levelled up our skills, we do a solid -5 to Agility and Strength to start the fight, which isn't too shabby. Debuffs do eventually wear off, but we'll mix that metaphor when we come to it. Immediately after debuffs are... A pox upon thee We're fighting for our lives here, and you give him chicken pox?! It's smallpox! That's even worse! It's smaller! You're an idiot....DoTs! (Damage over Time) DoTs are incredibly important in Paper Sorcerer's boss fights, and you'll make life noticeably easier by having someone who can cast them. Whereas status ailments are a waste of time in other RPGs, in the Librum Clastrum, you can stick a status ailment on just about anyone. This is very good, because DoTs do a certain percentage of HP damage every round. And the kicker?  grrkIt can't be resisted by Defense. I'm sure you see the implications here, but just to spell it out: hit a DoT and you'll be draining their HP the entire fight without having to worry their armor. In fact, one very valid strategy (if you have the right party for it) is to cast 2-3 DoTs, add a few debuffs, and then play defense until the boss keels over. Like I said, there's a lot of ways to go about this fight, and the best approach will vary by party makeup. (Side note: in this particular cell block, the game actually lobs a slow pitch over the plate by giving you the Arcanite Staff. If you have someone who can equip it, you can cast Poison as necessary. Here, though, we'd rather use Black Locust to free up the Sorceror for Frost Fall. That way, we can get our debuffs and DoTs in a single turn.) Observant veterans among us may notice the Sorceror doesn't continue with Focus and then Scorch, another four-Energy DoT. I've noticed Scorch tends not to stick unless you actually do damage with it—and like all bosses, Gilex's Defense is insane. It'll be a bit before we can directly damage him with anything, let alone spells. We take a quick break for Focus and Charging Strike, during which...  Mother FUCKER Good goddesses.  Yeah. That hurt just to watch.That's... that's a lot of damage.  We're talking easily 70+. And that's with the ridiculous Elvish Leather armor drops.This segues nicely into tier 3 of our strategy.   Buffs! Even at later levels, most of this party's buffs will be temporary Defense boosts. The best part about these? They won't cause your Defense to decrease after they wear off! (Unless, of course, you're over the buffed maximum.) In other words, if you increase your Defense by 10 and then take 15 Defense damage, you don't lose anything extra when the buff wears off. We're going to have that extra Defense clobbered out of us long before the skills wear off, so it's basically extra protection for two Energy. Not a bad deal!  We also have Willow top off our Defense whenever that skill is available. Be preventative about this poo poo. By the time your armor is low enough that regular attacks are doing damage, it's way too late. Most bosses are going to grind you into paste soon after. Speaking of which, we get the final tier in our strategy:   Kicking the poo poo out of him. Taking bosses on physically often feels like a fool's errand because of their defense; it's one of the major reasons DoT-and-sit-back is a common strategy. However, there is value in putting in the extra work. Firstly, it opens them up to spells, which allows you to damage their HP and bypass Defense problems altogether. Besides that, it puts your physical skills in play since they're often powerful enough to overcome compromised armor. A general rule of thumb is to beat on an enemy with your weapons until you start doing HP damage. After that, all options are on the table. Against bosses, you'll want to start dropping four Energy bombs at this point.  Seen here. 70 damage in one attack. Vlad The rest is just repeating the cycle: renew your debuffs as soon as they cool down; when Poison wears off, cast it again; use Restore Defense as often as it's available; continue whacking him until you break through and can start wrecking poo poo normally. It sounds so simple—and our guys are making it look easy—but usually, this will be a hectic scramble to keep everyone's Defense and HP up while you figure out some way to take the giant bastard down. Then he hits Wide Chop and everyone's Defense/HP is screwed and oh gods someone do something we're all going to die in this stupid book Anyway, after 7 or 8 turns...  Hot drat! I did it! We did it. Right, isn't that what I said? I really wish you'd stop doing that. Yeah, well. I want the Necromicon and a harem of succubi, but we can't always get what we want, can we? Yup, because that's what we need, game. More defense. The great part is that it's only +1   Oh hey, more skills! Regenerate's ehn right now since it's just Level 1, four Energy, and a six turn (!) cooldown. Curse of Blindness, though? That is absolutely helpful. We'll get to it in a later update, though it's pretty obvious what it does.  Since this is part of Frank's regular rotation of skills, a level-up on it is very much appreciated.  Alright, let's see what this guy kept back here. Oh poo poo oh poo poo sneak attack he's got a second form Everybody get behind Frank! I'll make sure our Defense is refilled! Chill, you guys. He's a hero. He doesn't do second forms. And they wonder why we keep kicking their rear end when they get to us...  He falls over dead with a look of genuine sadness on his face. ... Well poo poo. Now I just feel bad. Really? Nope. Loot time! He's as much a failure in death as he was in life. Alright, this is what we came here for. All we should need to do is cast the Chant of Unmaking, and— Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee  Stop doing that what is wrong with you Okay. As I was saying, all we should need to do is cast the Chant of Unmaking. Just point me at the chains. I'm gonna cast the hell out of that spell.   Should your eyes be rolling back in your head when you do that?  hell if I know I'm just winging it   Just as the tremors are becoming more violent you feel your body getting lighter and everything begins to fade away.
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Glidergun posted:If you had not put that in a screenshot I would not have believed it was actually in the game. What the gently caress. This game has a rather quirky sense of humor at times. I rather like it actually.
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Glidergun posted:If you had not put that in a screenshot I would not have believed it was actually in the game. What the gently caress. I figured. That's why I explicitly made sure to include it I love this game's sense of humor. It's just so completely and unexpectedly off the wall.
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Did he just sing "I'm a little teapot" at the anchors of reality? Actually it looks like it was just the runes in alphabetical order but I hope he actually was singing it rather than reciting it.
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Technically, you're supposed to sing "I'm a little Shoggoth".
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Chokes McGee posted:I figured. That's why I explicitly made sure to include it After playing this game, I honestly can't tell if what you write you made up, or is ACTUALLY IN THE GAME. Seriously, the humor of this game is...odd, but funny.
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Silegna posted:After playing this game, I honestly can't tell if what you write you made up, or is ACTUALLY IN THE GAME. Seriously, the humor of this game is...odd, but funny. If Chokes revealed he worked on the script at the end I wouldn't blink an eye.
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Silegna posted:After playing this game, I honestly can't tell if what you write you made up, or is ACTUALLY IN THE GAME. Seriously, the humor of this game is...odd, but funny. As always, Shivdurf and anything in italics during long conversations is in the game. Bellmaker posted:If Chokes revealed he worked on the script at the end I wouldn't blink an eye. Don't be silly I was too busy writing dialog for Drakengard 3 with Dark Id
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Just found this this Looks like a combination of wizardry and Shadowrun IN SPACE of all things Still early access so I haven't decided if I'm going to buy it, but it definitely looks intriguing if you're into this kind of game.
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mauman posted:Just found this this This looks very much like Phantasy Star in some places and I am down as poo poo for it.
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mauman posted:Just found this this God-loving dammit, now I know what my review budget is going on this month, as soon as I actually have some money. To find out about this the day after my birthday, too, is just plain annoying. Oh well, wishlisted!
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Starcrawlers is fantastic. I've been following the development ever since it hit Steam. Right now it's primarily just a sort of random dungeon generator, but once the dev builds in more plot quests and the corporate missions it should really be something impressive.
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His only regret is that he didn't get to chop enough things? Have we ever stopped to consider that, in fact, we may be the heroes?
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Glazius posted:His only regret is that he didn't get to chop enough things? That was the direction that Wizardry IV eventually took. There was no real way to unambiguously win and still be evil.
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Seyser Koze posted:That was the direction that Wizardry IV eventually took. There was no real way to unambiguously win and still be evil. Sure there is. It's just the results are "gently caress YEAH NIHILISM" and that's a little less lighthearted than this game is going for. I'm pretty sure we're going to remain evil, we're just the way lesser of two evils. Regardless of what happens, though, I assure you our horned Sorceror will always be a dick.
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Chokes McGee posted:Regardless of what happens, though, I assure you our horned Sorceror will always be a dick. As the dark gods intended. Besides, it isn't like the king was elected or chosen on merit; the Sorceror is practically doing the peasants a favor, he is. Won't even have to pay taxes until someone finds a new king!
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thetruegentleman posted:As the dark gods intended. I'm not sure if this is our endgame or not, but if this doesn't end with us sticking a boot up that fucker's rear end for putting us in here in the first place, I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
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Glazius posted:His only regret is that he didn't get to chop enough things? We're wearing elfhide armor. It may not be as convincing as a prominent skull motif, but I'm pretty sure we're still the baddies.
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I suspect the endgame will unfortunately and predictably involve the Spirit of the Book betraying us. My guess is that she's the whole reason the book even exists in the first place. Would be nice if I'm wrong though. But just because everyone else is a dick doesn't mean we're not still assholes too. I'm pretty sure regardless of the King's motivations, we probably deserved to be imprisoned.
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Danakir posted:I suspect the endgame will unfortunately and predictably involve the Spirit of the Book betraying us. My guess is that she's the whole reason the book even exists in the first place. My gut is telling me they sealed her in here, the King stumbled across it, and was like HAY WE CAN USE THIS TO TRAP THREATS I'M SURE NOTHING COULD GO WRONG. Basically what I'm saying is he deserves what's going to happen when we bust out of here 
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Hey, all! Just popping in to let everyone know the thread's not dead. I'm currently in Chicago for work and dealing with their restaurants' proclivities towards lovely, lovely food puns. Update should be coming over the weekend!
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