A Series Of Unfortunate Bat-Decisions. Let's Play Batman: Arkham Knight!

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CJacobs: Apr 17, 2011; Reach for the moon!

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Arkham Knight clearly knows details about Batman's equipment -- weaknesses in his armor, expected weaponry on the Batmobile, etc. This suggests he's a former "inside friend" either turned traitor or mind-controlled (so hey, there's an in for Poison Ivy, right? Or the Mad Hatter! ).

The "The Arkham Knight is Alfred" theory grows in power and validity with every new episode.

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Speedball: Apr 15, 2008

I always liked the stories where they mention Alfred had a military background. In TAS he was more of a desk worker than a spy but still got involved in intelligence, in The Dark Knight he mentions being a commando in Burma.

Being a butler is apparently his idea of retirement.

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CzarChasm: Mar 14, 2009; I don't like it when you're watching me eat.

Speedball posted:

I always liked the stories where they mention Alfred had a military background. In TAS he was more of a desk worker than a spy but still got involved in intelligence, in The Dark Knight he mentions being a commando in Burma.

Being a butler is apparently his idea of retirement.

It would be retirement, if he didn't have to work for Batman

# ? Mar 2, 2016 22:49

Aithon: Jan 3, 2014; Every puzzle has an answer.

Speedball posted:

I always liked the stories where they mention Alfred had a military background. In TAS he was more of a desk worker than a spy but still got involved in intelligence, in The Dark Knight he mentions being a commando in Burma.

Being a butler is apparently his idea of retirement.

Alfred the desk-worker is still pretty great. I'd love to see a game about Alfred the master hacker where you just remotely open doors, operate ridiculously complex mechanisms, hack the world and generally are mission control to Batman.

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Speedball: Apr 15, 2008

Aithon posted:

Alfred the desk-worker is still pretty great. I'd love to see a game about Alfred the master hacker where you just remotely open doors, operate ridiculously complex mechanisms, hack the world and generally are mission control to Batman.

There IS a game about this, it's called Republique! You are some sort of hacker guiding a woman through a heavily-guarded prison in an Orwellian dystopia, but you can see through the cameras, open doors and tell her where to try to go.

Kind of like that escort mission in Watch_Dogs except it's the entire game and doesn't suck.

# ? Mar 2, 2016 23:19

Blueberry Pancakes: Aug 18, 2012; Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Speedball posted:

I always liked the stories where they mention Alfred had a military background. In TAS he was more of a desk worker than a spy but still got involved in intelligence, in The Dark Knight he mentions being a commando in Burma.

Yeah, he was trusted enough to have half of a missile launch code and was able to avoid giving it away for the most part even while drugged.

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Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

A couple other new enemy behaviors also occurred in this video:

1. Combat Experts have a longer distance attack where they jump onto another enemy's shoulders, then launch themselves at you. It can be countered as normal, but it gives them much longer range.
2. Medics can also help enemies that have been knocked down up- these enemies get back up much faster than they otherwise would. This might be a general enemy behavior, but I've only ever seen it in medics.

CJacobs posted:

The "The Arkham Knight is Alfred" theory grows in power and validity with every new episode.

Can't be- if it were Alfred Batman would have died already.

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Yvonmukluk: Oct 10, 2012; Everything is Sinister

Aithon posted:

Alfred the desk-worker is still pretty great. I'd love to see a game about Alfred the master hacker where you just remotely open doors, operate ridiculously complex mechanisms, hack the world and generally are mission control to Batman.

This, except Oracle.

Actually that would a be a neat idea, since you could be providing mission support to different heroes with unique abilities, etc. Where is Birds of Prey: The Game, dagnabbit?

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Major_JF: Oct 17, 2008

Have a top down blueprint map where you can control light and alarms and doors and so on. Any action takes an amount of time do the hacking but the hacking just happens with a single click. Also have first person views of the fighters to get clues, information to get information, faster hacks see areas not on the blueprints, or just watch them fight.. Also have rainbow six style path mapping that you can change with the characters doing the leading/talking with the ground crew getting annoyed if you send them back and forth too many times.

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VolticSurge: Jul 23, 2013; Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.

Speedball posted:

There IS a game about this, it's called Republique! You are some sort of hacker guiding a woman through a heavily-guarded prison in an Orwellian dystopia, but you can see through the cameras, open doors and tell her where to try to go.

Kind of like that escort mission in Watch_Dogs except it's the entire game and doesn't suck.

But apparently it's a scam and buggy? And if the first review (and its comments) are to believe,the devs abuse their power and despise criticism?

VolticSurge fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Mar 3, 2016

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Omobono: Feb 19, 2013; That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

The Knight is totally a Robin, isn't he? Of the three Robins, my money is on Jason Todd, 'cause I don't see Tim Drake pulling this poo poo and Dick Grayson is unwinding from the years of being Robim by being Nightwing.

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Aithon: Jan 3, 2014; Every puzzle has an answer.

Speedball posted:

There IS a game about this, it's called Republique! You are some sort of hacker guiding a woman through a heavily-guarded prison in an Orwellian dystopia, but you can see through the cameras, open doors and tell her where to try to go.

Kind of like that escort mission in Watch_Dogs except it's the entire game and doesn't suck.

I played a bit of the mobile version, the game seemed cool but the touch screen controls were kind of wonky for me. I don't know if it was the game or just me, but a couple of times Hope would merrily jaunt into the open and be caught instead of hiding behind cover. And, well, it's a different feel. Your protagonist was pretty much helpless on her own and had to be guided at every step, unlike a hypothetical Batman.

Major_JF posted:

Have a top down blueprint map where you can control light and alarms and doors and so on. Any action takes an amount of time do the hacking but the hacking just happens with a single click. Also have first person views of the fighters to get clues, information to get information, faster hacks see areas not on the blueprints, or just watch them fight.. Also have rainbow six style path mapping that you can change with the characters doing the leading/talking with the ground crew getting annoyed if you send them back and forth too many times.

Invisible, Inc. is probably the closest I know to this, but it's turn-based and you always have direct control over your agents. There's a big focus on hacking security systems, most of which is done through an AI which basically does what Alfred does here (through its own specialized interface). Your guys still have to be "spotters" for the AI, physically take loot out of safes and possibly take heat for any screw-ups you make. It's not what seeing Alfred in this game made me think of, mostly because the agents lack any autonomy, but it's the same ballpark.

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Iretep: Nov 10, 2009

Omobono posted:

The Knight is totally a Robin, isn't he? Of the three Robins, my money is on Jason Todd, 'cause I don't see Tim Drake pulling this poo poo and Dick Grayson is unwinding from the years of being Robim by being Nightwing.

I cant imagine anyone else it could be. If justice league is a thing in this version it could be someone from there but i cant think of anyone except Guy Gardner who hates him this much.

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radintorov: Feb 18, 2011

Speedball posted:

There IS a game about this, it's called Republique! You are some sort of hacker guiding a woman through a heavily-guarded prison in an Orwellian dystopia, but you can see through the cameras, open doors and tell her where to try to go.

The multiplayer of Clandestine also works like that: you have the player in the role of the operative on the ground a la Sam Fisher and another player acting as the mission control hacker that has to juggle security cameras, direct the other player (since the field operative doesn't get a map) and access secure networks while avoiding being caught by the sysadmin.

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Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Omobono posted:

The Knight is totally a Robin, isn't he? Of the three Robins, my money is on Jason Todd, 'cause I don't see Tim Drake pulling this poo poo and Dick Grayson is unwinding from the years of being Robim by being Nightwing.

I spoiled this a long time ago in the main thread.

Discendo Vox posted:

Again, the identity of the Arkham Knight was spoiled months ago:

The Arkham Knight is going to be Joker's cloned corpse of brainwashed Jason Todd, hypnotized by the Mad Hatter into believing he is Talia al Ghul, surgically planted in a HARDAC body replica of Barbara Gordon, enhanced with meditation techniques passed down by Lady Shiva(really a fake imitation created by Poison Ivy) that have rewritten its personality to mimic Damien, transformed by the Lazarus Pit and the treatments of the ghost of Professor Strange into a perfect copy of Solomon Wayne that believes he is the heir of the mantle of Batman's future Cadmus project clone-child's illegitimate ward, Man-Bat, only he's gone into a fugue state where he believes he is actually a retconned character from a previous version of the universe(before Ultimate Crisis), Red Hood, who has a secondary backup personality in the case of subconscious tampering by the Court of Owls, which has prepared for the situation by studying and perfectly mimicking the behaviors, tics and techniques of the Gray Ghost, which will be revealed to call himself the Joker, Azazreyzael.

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hard counter: Jan 2, 2015

Iretep posted:

I cant imagine anyone else it could be. If justice league is a thing in this version it could be someone from there but i cant think of anyone except Guy Gardner who hates him this much.

The al Ghuls have a bone to pick w/Bruce too in this continuity. That'd be my outsider pick if they don't just do a retelling of under the red hood.

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rotinaj: Sep 5, 2008; Fun Shoe

Gonna be Jean Paul Valley, and he's gonna have a crazy stupid '90s Batman costume by the end of the game.

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Blueberry Pancakes: Aug 18, 2012; Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

rotinaj posted:

Gonna be Jean Paul Valley, and he's gonna have a crazy stupid '90s Batman costume by the end of the game.

The one from Origins?

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Waffleman_: Jan 20, 2011; I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Didn't realize Spawn was in Gotham.

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CoffeeQaddaffi: Mar 20, 2009

Discendo Vox posted:

I spoiled this a long time ago in the main thread.

My immediate guess was Jason Todd, but only because he's the only Robin that hasn't appeared in any of the Arkham games. iirc. Though Ras makes sense also.

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hard counter: Jan 2, 2015

rotinaj posted:

Gonna be Jean Paul Valley, and he's gonna have a crazy stupid '90s Batman costume by the end of the game.

people gonna look back at arkham knight's suit one day and say its holograms and tronlights were a stupid 2010s thing

therefore an updated JPV is a good guess

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TooMuchAbstraction: Oct 14, 2012; I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.; Fun Shoe

hard counter posted:

The al Ghuls have a bone to pick w/Bruce too in this continuity. That'd be my outsider pick if they don't just do a retelling of under the red hood.

I admittedly am not much up on the al Ghul family, but I get the impression that R'as al Ghul wouldn't posture and strut at Batman the way Arkham Knight did in the latest update. He'd also have a less colloquial way of phrasing things, not being a native English speaker and all. A Robin does seem to be the most obvious choice, and we've seen two of them so far.

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JamieTheD: Nov 4, 2011; LPer, Reviewer, Mad Welshman

(Yes, that's a self portrait)

Coffeehitler posted:

My immediate guess was Jason Todd, but only because he's the only Robin that hasn't appeared in any of the Arkham games. iirc. Though Ras makes sense also.

It's okay, at least two of those things aren't spoilers, and the name is just your guess, it's all good. I also guessed Jason Todd from around this point, and we'll see whether that's right or not later. Or, y'know, the entire thread will have figured out the identity of the Arkham Knight (Whoever it may be), and given a mass collective groan.

The Arkham Knight is actually the corpse of Stephanie Brown, aka SPOILER.Also I have a deed to the Gotham Bridge to sell you. PM with offer.

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Klaus88: Jan 23, 2011; Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Yvonmukluk posted:

This, except Oracle.

Actually that would a be a neat idea, since you could be providing mission support to different heroes with unique abilities, etc. Where is Birds of Prey: The Game, dagnabbit?

Sorry, but it will never exist. :negative:

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hard counter: Jan 2, 2015

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

I admittedly am not much up on the al Ghul family, but I get the impression that R'as al Ghul wouldn't posture and strut at Batman the way Arkham Knight did in the latest update. He'd also have a less colloquial way of phrasing things, not being a native English speaker and all. A Robin does seem to be the most obvious choice, and we've seen two of them so far.

I was thinking lazarus crazy Talia w/voice synthesizer for a ~*plot twist*~ or one of al ghul's named progeny (Nyssa, Dusan) playing up the revenge angle. I think Ras has other unworthy hangers on too that are relatives in some way as well. At least Ras' resources would explain how a merc army happened :v:

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Speedball: Apr 15, 2008

Wouldn't be the first time a woman in masculine-looking power armor and a voice synthesizer encountered someone in a video game. MGS2's Cyber Ninja, for example. Or for a Batman example, The Phantasm.

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ShootaBoy: Jan 6, 2010; Anime is Bad.
_{Except for Pokemon, Valkyria Chronicles and 100% OJ.}

The Knight is actually Batmite.

# ? Mar 3, 2016 04:26

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

ShootaBoy posted:

The Knight is actually Batmite.

Dammit, I knew I was missing something!

# ? Mar 3, 2016 04:32

Kurieg: Jul 19, 2012; RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20

The Arkham Knight is actually an elaborate robot being controlled by Batman's Zur-En-Ahh persona via a remote control in his left hand.

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RareAcumen: Dec 28, 2012

The Arkham Knight is actually a Slade bot.

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NGDBSS: Dec 30, 2009

Discendo Vox posted:

I spoiled this a long time ago in the main thread.

Oh good god, are those all fakeouts that have appeared in DC comics canon?

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Blueberry Pancakes: Aug 18, 2012; Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

NGDBSS posted:

Oh good god, are those all fakeouts that have appeared in DC comics canon?

Comics are weird.

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bewilderment: Nov 22, 2007; man what

So, uh, Scruffy, is there a reason you left the giant flashing LEVEL UP indicator up on the top of the screen for the entire video?

It's been the only complaint I've ever had with these great LPs.

# ? Mar 3, 2016 09:18

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

NGDBSS posted:

Oh good god, are those all fakeouts that have appeared in DC comics canon?

It's a scrambled mixture of every character and plot device I could think of that's been associated with twisty mindscrew plots involved with Batman.

...Immediately after posting it I got like 5 responses suggesting additional things I'd missed.

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dscruffy1: Nov 22, 2007; Look out!; Nap Ghost

bewilderment posted:

So, uh, Scruffy, is there a reason you left the giant flashing LEVEL UP indicator up on the top of the screen for the entire video?

It's been the only complaint I've ever had with these great LPs.

Part of it this time around is that it takes a while for the points to get up to where I have enough that I actually want to use them. Some of the higher end upgrades take 8 points. Maybe it feels like stopping just to remove the indicator feels sloppy. The other part is that sometimes I just don't see it, or I've interrupted it at some point to look at something else. In the playthrough I did shortly before this I had 28 points to use, so I might be bad at getting upgrades :v:

It'll take me a few videos because I've recorded ~4 more in advance but I'll work on keeping the level up flashing to a minimum.

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anilEhilated: Feb 17, 2014; But I say fuck the rain.; Grimey Drawer

Yeah, when playing this game, you learn to block out the LEVEL UP!!! pretty fast, especially if you happen to be doing sidequests.

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CommissarMega: Nov 18, 2008; THUNDERDOME LOSER

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Comics are weird.

...can someone explain what the hell's happening here?

# ? Mar 3, 2016 11:28

rotinaj: Sep 5, 2008; Fun Shoe

CommissarMega posted:

...can someone explain what the hell's happening here?

Evil robots have captured heroes and fleshcrafted many of them to be better warriors. When batman was captured, he was apparently merged with the Joker. They have come to see Mr. terrific, probably to capture him too?

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Yvonmukluk: Oct 10, 2012; Everything is Sinister

Klaus88 posted:

Sorry, but it will never exist.

God dammit, I was just imagining how it might work. Like Cassandra Cain as Batgirl would be awesome at fighting and stealth, but useless at anything that involved reading (but she could level up to Blackbat and overcome the 'illiterate' penalty - at least on English-language operations). Misfit could teleport around the map, but obviously that wouldn't work so well on hostage rescue because she can only teleport herself, also she tends to Leeroy Jenkins things a lot, forcing you to react as she charges in. Obviously Batman would be one of the msot powerful, but he has very limited availability outside of Gotham. Maybe characters would be more readily available for Birds missions if you help them on their own tasks - i.e. Nightwing will be available to help out breaking into Lexcorp if you give him support cleaning up Bludhaven, or you could unlock Blue Beetle if you help him fend off a Reach incursion (but you can't call him in on school nights because he has to do his homework).

Oh no I'm writing fanfiction about non-existent comics videogames, send help.

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SonicRulez: Aug 6, 2013; GOTTA GO FIST

Batnight deserves better than what he gets in this series. He definitely deserved better than getting beaten up by Harley.

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