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Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

actually buy Totori because she is the most moe

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Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

I want this a lot, even though I've only put about 20 hours into Breaker 2. :argh:

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!




At this point, we can just use Uni from Neptunia, because she lives in a constant state of insecurity from being in the shadow of an older sister who thinks she's a lot better than she actually is. Her best friend is a Game Gear girl, and together, they have a combo attack called Stark Vita. One of her solo specials is called NGP.

RanKizama
Apr 22, 2015

Shinobi Heart
She was so hopeful. It's almost depressing.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!

NESguerilla posted:

Not really. 3DS bombed out of the gate and Nintendo stuck with it and look where is now.

Sony could have salvaged the Vita but they didn't because they are Sony.

uhh the 3ds is still significantly behind its predecessor and is a general failure, just not on the level of the vita

also nintendo NEEDED the 3ds to do better, because they rely on their handhelds so heavily. the wii u was a complete flop and they needed at least one part of their business to actually make some money. for sony it made a lot more sense to realise that even with their mistake the handheld market is done and to focus on the upcoming ps4 instead. and it paid off pretty well.

MisterAlex
Dec 4, 2004

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NESguerilla posted:

3DS bombed out of the gate and Nintendo stuck with it and look where is now.

Yes, look where it is now. :rolleyes:

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
I wanna play shallie but judging by the last one itll be like a year or two before plus comes out here :(

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

corn in the bible posted:

I wanna play shallie but judging by the last one itll be like a year or two before plus comes out here :(

Get a PS3

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

i probably should yeah

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

I think I have like 60 PS3 games, it is a good console

thorsilver
Feb 20, 2005

You have never
been at my show
You haven't seen before
how looks the trumpet


On the one hand, yes the DS sold massively better, to the point of being the second-highest selling console ever by most estimates.

On the other, using yet another non-specialist tech site's 'Nintendo is dooommmmeeeddd!!!' article is not exactly convincing anyone that Nintendo's in any kind of dire situation because of it. Every year we get scads of those, and every year they prove to be full of poo poo as Nintendo again fails to be doomed.

Also, maybe it's just me but I think there's something hosed-up about gaming culture and our expectations if a console that has sold to this point nearly as much as the NES and significantly more than the SNES, and nearly 6x more than the Xbone and 2x the PS4, and has made profit for Nintendo on every unit sold, is being described as a failure.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

3DS software is also still selling great if FE is any indication.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
whats a good price for a ps3

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

corn in the bible posted:

whats a good price for a ps3

I got a second-hand ultraslim for £80 about six months ago.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

corn in the bible posted:

whats a good price for a ps3

I've seen them in the 60 to 80 dollar range. The fat ones with PS2 compatibility are more expensive and also probably going to break, not really worth it.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Unfortunately they shut down Cowboom so a large source of cheap ones is no longer available.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005



They have sold 52 million 3ds's . What an absolute failure :rolleyes:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-3ds-sells-15-million-units-in-the-us-52-m/1100-6427993/

veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Mar 3, 2016

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
Interesting side note here: Metacritic has less games listed for 3DS than for Vita.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


If you take into consideration psp, Psx , and indie games vita probably actually has one of the largest game libraries of just about any system.

MisterAlex
Dec 4, 2004

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Dehry posted:

Unfortunately they shut down Cowboom so a large source of cheap ones is no longer available.
Cowboom was merged into "Best Buy Outlet" after Best Buy ended its third-party seller storefront, so you should be able to just search right at bestbuy.com. They've apparently got used PS3s for about $160.


Raw console sales numbers aren't the whole story. I can sell 100 widgets at $10 a pop and think I did great, but meanwhile you sell 30 widgets at $50 a pop. Then there's the question of whether and how much continued and residual revenue each of our widgets pulls in after the initial sale (arguably more important than the initial one-time sales).
The fact that Nintendo has repeatedly had to significantly revise (reduce) its 3DS sales expectations (hardware and software) is pretty telling of its declining health in the marketplace.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Im going to report the next person who posts a sales chart for being a nerd.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

In Training posted:

Im going to report the next person who posts a sales chart for being a nerd.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Report my rear end

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

NESguerilla posted:

If you take into consideration psp, Psx , and indie games vita probably actually has one of the largest game libraries of just about any system.

How many PS1 games are there on the Vita? Due to the hilarious amount of shovelware on the DS it has like 2x the number of PSP games.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Sakurazuka posted:

Report my rear end

Very well

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Mithaldu posted:

How many PS1 games are there on the Vita? Due to the hilarious amount of shovelware on the DS it has like 2x the number of PSP games.

I'm not sure of the number but it's a shocking amount. Whenever I think about playing a PSX game it seems 9 times out of 10 I can play it on the vita.

thorsilver
Feb 20, 2005

You have never
been at my show
You haven't seen before
how looks the trumpet

MisterAlex posted:

Raw console sales numbers aren't the whole story. I can sell 100 widgets at $10 a pop and think I did great, but meanwhile you sell 30 widgets at $50 a pop.

Or you can be Nintendo and sell 58 million widgets and make a profit on every single one while all your competitors make a loss on every unit. So again I don't see your point.

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Then there's the question of whether and how much continued and residual revenue each of our widgets pulls in after the initial sale (arguably more important than the initial one-time sales).
The fact that Nintendo has repeatedly had to significantly revise (reduce) its 3DS sales expectations (hardware and software) is pretty telling of its declining health in the marketplace.

It's health may be declining but it's still sold more than the majority of games consoles ever produced and has an excellent library featuring a number of multi-million-sellers, both first and third party. The 3DS really isn't the disaster you think it is.

And frankly it's doing pretty loving well considering the casual market that propped up the DS has almost entirely shifted over to lovely, low-budget iOS games instead. And obviously the 3DS is doing an order of magnitude better than the Vita.

Sakurazuka posted:

Report my rear end

same

MisterAlex
Dec 4, 2004

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I never said the 3DS is a disaster. I just think that it's misleading to hold it up as a case for "If Sony had kept on chugging with the Vita, it would've done great!" There are far too many variables for that to be a valid comparison.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Mithaldu posted:

How many PS1 games are there on the Vita? Due to the hilarious amount of shovelware on the DS it has like 2x the number of PSP games.

I don't know but they seem to have virtually every Psx game that's worth a poo poo . I've had pretty much 100% success rate when looking for games I was nostalgic for.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

MisterAlex posted:

I never said the 3DS is a disaster. I just think that it's misleading to hold it up as a case for "If Sony had kept on chugging with the Vita, it would've done great!" There are far too many variables for that to be a valid comparison.

You're misunderstanding what people are saying as well. It's not about "chugging on", it's about *actually giving a poo poo and doing more than actively sabotaging the thing*. Sony has been the greatest enemy the Vita has had.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Yeah. Say we are at the point where they already screwed up the vita and they try to save it with the release of the slim. They could have actually advertised it, they could have really played up the ps4 functionality, they could have released a new killer game, or most importantly got rid of propriety memory or at least made the cards affordable. They didn't do any of that.

I'm not saying I know if they could have made it a big success but they didn't even try.

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

Am I wrong or Nintendo stopped trying to make really big releases after the 3ds second year? The first two years were full of new, worthwile releases, then Nintendo just dropped the ball to move its teams on WiiU and NX. That really didn't help sell the console to people who did not get in the first or the second wave. Anyway It's still good sales considering the market shrunk a lot.

thorsilver posted:

On the one hand, yes the DS sold massively better, to the point of being the second-highest selling console ever by most estimates.

On the other, using yet another non-specialist tech site's 'Nintendo is dooommmmeeeddd!!!' article is not exactly convincing anyone that Nintendo's in any kind of dire situation because of it. Every year we get scads of those, and every year they prove to be full of poo poo as Nintendo again fails to be doomed.

Also, maybe it's just me but I think there's something hosed-up about gaming culture and our expectations if a console that has sold to this point nearly as much as the NES and significantly more than the SNES, and nearly 6x more than the Xbone and 2x the PS4, and has made profit for Nintendo on every unit sold, is being described as a failure.

Well, consider that technology outlets who have no interest in talking about gaming companies sometimes will eschew reality, badmouthing console makers to talk well of mobile phones, incidentally talking well about Apple or Samsung devices.

MisterAlex
Dec 4, 2004

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NESguerilla posted:

I'm not saying I know if they could have made it a big success but they didn't even try.
I figure they probably just looked at everything as a whole, decided it wasn't worth the expense/risk, and put all their steam behind the already succeeding PS4. I'm guessing it seemed like a pretty safe bet to minimize potential losses on the uncertain front and capitalize on their booming progress elsewhere.

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
I think part of the reason the 3DS has bottomed out quicker than previous Nintendo handhelds is actually graphics fidelity. I knew more than a few people who saw the "New 3DS" and were disappointed that it had the exact same anemic screen resolution. Even if you feel that graphics aren't very important (and I'd agree), the 3DS screens look archaic when compared to even a free crappy Android you'd get when signing up for a mobile plan and that's sort of disappointing. It becomes even more of a problem when it makes small text actually hard to read in some RPG's.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


My guess would be mobile gaming more than anything in regards to 3ds not being as enormously successful as the DS was.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Yeah, in the case of both the Vita and the 3DS "Mobile game is now a thing" is something that has to be taken into account. Dedicated handheld gaming devices are either going to become a narrower niche or be on their way out entirely depending on how things go. Anyone with an interest in gaming probably has a device in their pocket that they have on them 24/7 and can play many games while having more relative utility so a dedicated device is going to be harder and harder to justify.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Apart from the bit where all phone games are trash

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

*waits for stux to turn up*

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Sakurazuka posted:

Apart from the bit where all phone games are trash

Eh. There are enough playable phone games that unless you're looking for really dedicated experiences you're probably going to find something to waste enough time these days. Basically the crowd that wanted a handheld device for timewasting has one and so it's only looking for a dedicated on-the-go gaming device that it has a niche and even that is narrowing with ports n' poo poo. I can play Baldur's Gate or KotOR or Sentinels of the Multiverse or whatever on either my phone or tablet which is not exactly Top-Notch Gaming but isn't exactly crap either.

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In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Phone games ruined video games

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