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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Holy poo poo these rule.

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catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

site posted:

I wouldn't mind getting choice b wallpaper sized.

A bit large, but somebody's got you covered.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle



Still little bit too small, actually.

2560x1440 users, unite! :pcgaming:

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
There's no poll option to make the sleeve use A and B as its two sides, and ditch that other design entirely?

Of the two choices here, I think A is classier but I see the appeal of B.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

That's immediately what I thought too. Why isn't Option B the front cover? It's a lot more fitting to their presentation of the game so far.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

KozmoNaut posted:

Still little bit too small, actually.

2560x1440 users, unite! :pcgaming:

Here, try this.

Linguica
Jul 13, 2000
You're already dead

Yeah protip, you can replace the :large at the end of a Twitter image link with :orig to get the largest possible version of it

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle



Awesome!

Linguica posted:

Yeah protip, you can replace the :large at the end of a Twitter image link with :orig to get the largest possible version of it

I did not know this, but now I do :)

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

I don't know how they could design both of those alternate covers while still designing the actual cover. The first one should be the game's cover while the second one should be the reverse one.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

ty :)

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


BattleMaster posted:

I don't know how they could design both of those alternate covers while still designing the actual cover. The first one should be the game's cover while the second one should be the reverse one.

You underestimate the true power of the marketing department

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
Why do we care about boxes again? The last PC game I got in a box was like Left 4 Dead 2 and that was only because it was cheaper than getting it on Steam normally.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Elliotw2 posted:

Why do we care about boxes again? The last PC game I got in a box was like Left 4 Dead 2 and that was only because it was cheaper than getting it on Steam normally.

I don't even know why because when I get it it will be on Steam, but drat are those two covers (and the screaming Revenant) better than Doomguy standing there.

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies
Honestly, I wish it were worthwhile buying Doom PC in a box. Stupid "this is just a glorified Steam key" trend gaming has these days... If I wanted the game on Steam, I could just do it through Steam - and for much cheaper, most likely! It'd be nice if the game would still run without it, even if you'd have to go through the hassle of patching manually like the old days.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Elliotw2 posted:

Why do we care about boxes again? The last PC game I got in a box was like Left 4 Dead 2 and that was only because it was cheaper than getting it on Steam normally.

Cause some of us are going to be buying the console versions

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

drrockso20 posted:

Cause some of us are going to be buying the console versions

?????

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

RyokoTK posted:

That's immediately what I thought too. Why isn't Option B the front cover? It's a lot more fitting to their presentation of the game so far.

Could be some suit at the publisher mandating it for some dumb focus grouped reason while giving the devs freedom on the non-retail-facing side

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Cat Mattress posted:

There's no poll option to make the sleeve use A and B as its two sides, and ditch that other design entirely?

Of the two choices here, I think A is classier but I see the appeal of B.

Yeah I tweeted at their poll that they should just use A and B and ditch the other design entirely. They're being made fun of for it on most major gaming websites.

Probably some executive at Bethesda who designed it who is gonna be butt hurt over it and won't let them change :smith:

victrix posted:

You underestimate the true power of the marketing department

Yeah game publisher marketing teams are hilariously out of touch.

See: Halo 5's publishing team flat-out fabricating an entire alternative storyline.

Shadow Hog posted:

Honestly, I wish it were worthwhile buying Doom PC in a box. Stupid "this is just a glorified Steam key" trend gaming has these days... If I wanted the game on Steam, I could just do it through Steam - and for much cheaper, most likely! It'd be nice if the game would still run without it, even if you'd have to go through the hassle of patching manually like the old days.

I agree, but :ssh: its DRM. So they won't let you without it.

CD-Keys were replaced by Steam-keys. Too easy to crack cd-keys, or share them for single player games. Sucks though, no doubt. I hate drm.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Mar 3, 2016

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies
I don't buy console games digitally unless there's literally no alternative (or if it's free on PS+ I guess).

With PC games, there literally is no alternative, because everything worth a drat is locked to Steam even if you buy it from a brick and mortar store.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



I like to buy some pc games the old way because they look nice on my shelf, like collectors editions of some games etc... other than that, buying digital copies are the best bet otherwise. On consoles there's a good 2nd hand market if you buy something and you end not liking it or will play once then never touch it again. Since I bought my 360 in 2008 I've done some good tradings with both stores and people and you can get insanelly good deals from people that barely touched their games/consoles.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Well for one thing the internet at my house is kinda iffy, so I'd rather go with physical over having to do a gigantic download, also a PS4's hard drive fills up surprisingly fast, so I'd prefer to keep it physical for this sort of thing

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies
That latter point is kind of moot, since physical games install to the PS4's hard drive too, nowadays.

Though it's easy enough to delete and reinstall as needed when you have the discs on-hand, at least?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

drrockso20 posted:

Well for one thing the internet at my house is kinda iffy, so I'd rather go with physical over having to do a gigantic download, also a PS4's hard drive fills up surprisingly fast, so I'd prefer to keep it physical for this sort of thing

Yeah but its stupid easy to put a giant HDD in your ps4.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Everything I get is digital nowadays because it's more convenient. Boxes just take up room anyway.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Both covers kick rear end in their own different ways. I had trouble deciding but I went with B because I like B-side cover art to be, well, covered in art.

Touchfuzzy
Dec 5, 2010

Hold on to your armchair, but some people like owning physical of copies of games if they can at all choose to do so.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
I don't have any particular attachment to physical media, but I'm young and have decent enough internet so the only thing that I actually buy discs for at this point is the Wii U. The only real benefit you're even getting these days is a generic looking box and maybe the ability to only download half of the game instead of all of it.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Zaphod42 posted:

Yeah game publisher marketing teams are hilariously out of touch.

See: Halo 5's publishing team flat-out fabricating an entire alternative storyline.

Haha, how did this work?

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Speaking of marketing. There's some of those Dead Island torsos on Ebay. Own a piece of the controversy today!

Aaronicon
Oct 2, 2010

A BLOO BLOO ANYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS A "BAD PERSON" WHO DESERVES TO DIE PLEEEASE DONT FALL ALL OVER YOURSELF WHITEWASHING THEM A BLOO BLOO

khwarezm posted:

Haha, how did this work?

I never bothered to play Halo 5 because gently caress the lack of local split-screen for campaign, but the entire marketing for it was about a confrontation between Locke and a rogue Master Chief, versus in the actual game where they just kind of ran into each other, said hello, and spent most of the game alternating between helping each other or ignoring each other entirely. There was zero conflict or antagonism between either of them.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
I kinda like physical copies, I was a little disappointed that Wolfenstein: The Old Blood didn't have a physical PC release in the US because it would have looked nice with all my other Wolfenstein games. Also because it took loving forever to download and I don't have an awful internet connection. Downloading only half of a game is pretty nice when the game is 50 gigs. In general I can't help but feel games are getting really large, too large even, for honestly little benefit.

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies

catlord posted:

I kinda like physical copies, I was a little disappointed that Wolfenstein: The Old Blood didn't have a physical PC release in the US because it would have looked nice with all my other Wolfenstein games. Also because it took loving forever to download and I don't have an awful internet connection. Downloading only half of a game is pretty nice when the game is 50 gigs. In general I can't help but feel games are getting really large, too large even, for honestly little benefit.
Pretty sure it did. Saw it at Best Buy several times over.

Didn't buy it, though, because, well, it's just a Steam key.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Johnny Law posted:

Yah. Checking my listed of backed games-things (that had a successful campaign) it looks like:

Obviously we're just slinging personal anecdotes around here though. :shrug:

My Kickstarter history is pretty good, but then, I consider DFA to be successful because I went into it with the expectation that watching the videos would be interesting (it was) in addition to maybe getting a cool game eventually (very eventually, but it's Double Fine, that wasn't unexpected.)

BattleMaster posted:

I don't know how they could design both of those alternate covers while still designing the actual cover. The first one should be the game's cover while the second one should be the reverse one.

And they should do a special edition where the black part is done in vantablack. Now THAT is a special edition I'd actually consider.

Keiya fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Mar 4, 2016

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Shadow Hog posted:

Pretty sure it did. Saw it at Best Buy several times over.

Didn't buy it, though, because, well, it's just a Steam key.

In the US? I never saw it, and when I asked about it they said there wouldn't be a physical PC release in the US. Oh well, a bit late now anyway.

Anyway, I saw an interesting looking Hexen mod on the ZDoom forums called a Morte and tried it out. Don't make my mistake. The maps are blocky, overly large but not in an interesting way, more like "hey, here's a room that's three times bigger than it needs to be," the first area, the Mausoleum, has these doors that open annoyingly slowly, and the new enemies are annoyingly tough. Oh, and there's this warning:

a Morte dev posted:

One set of sprites in particular has a very adult death animation, I'm aware of this and its a left over from the original sprite sheet. I will consider removing this or blurring it out in the final version. While this specific death sequence could be considered "realistic" in Berlin during the Russian invasion, I'm undecided as to whether its comical or in poor taste. I'm sure there are people out there who will find it offensive and I would prefer not to offend people over any "historical accuracy" or "humor".

Curious and pissed at how awful it was to play, I god moded and no clipped my way around until I found them. The sprites in question are naked women who apparently wander the streets of war-torn Berlin and obviously came from some porn game or something, especially obviously when their death animation has their legs spread. It's not comical, especially not when put into context of the last days of WW2.

All-in-all, a Morte is has bad levels, bad enemies and is kinda gross for some weird reason and I don't recommend it.

Szymanski
Jul 31, 2005

You down with OCP?
Sugartime Jones
I'll get the boxed copy of Doom4 because it'll be £10 cheaper than Steam

Thyrork
Apr 21, 2010

"COME PLAY MECHS M'LANCER."

Or at least use Retrograde Mini's to make cool mechs and fantasy stuff.

:awesomelon:
Slippery Tilde

Szymanski posted:

I'll get the boxed copy of Doom4 because it'll be £10 cheaper than Steam

This poo poo just blows my goddamned mind. :psyboom:

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.

Thyrork posted:

This poo poo just blows my goddamned mind. :psyboom:

Blows my mind too. I don't know why a physical box that's had to be produced, packaged and sent across oceans (all the while paying taxes to every country it's gone through) to a shop that also needs to make its own profit is still sold for cheaper than a digital distribution platform. It really needs to be the other way around.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004


Option A would be good for a Special Edition of the game. But B is what it should have been all along. Punching a hole through an Imp using its carcass as a shield while blowing a pinky demon's cranium 3/4 of the way off. I have irrational hope that one of those stylish finishers will have you grab an enemy and you just punch it in the stomach with the Super Shotgun. When is the beta supposed to happen again? I need my fix.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
Option B on those alternate Doom covers just kind of strikes me as trying way too hard to directly imitate the original Doom artwork, as opposed to doing something new with the same attitude and style. Like a cover song, as opposed to a new track by (a different line-up of :() the same band.

Think Doom 2's title screen/cover artwork. Different perspective, subject matter, artist... but it still unmistakably has the same tone and feel linking it to the same universe as the original.

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RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.
The thing about it though, it's not just a direct imitation. Yeah it's very clearly supposed to be the same general composition, but the difference between the original and that one is that in the original, it looks like a last stand, he's defensively fighting off a horde, but in the new one it gives me the impression that he's there to gently caress some demons up because he's picking up the one by the neck. It's more offensive. It matches the feel of how the game looks so far, which is that it's like the Doom of old we promise please believe us, but far more overtly violent, where Doomguy is some kind of berserk ultra violent psychopath.

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