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Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Sakurazuka posted:

If by clean you mean no porn then yeah, all of the Science Adventure series started off as console games so no naughty bits.

I'll play CHAOS;HEAD then.

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The final chapter is extremely weak, just as a heads up.

the truth
Dec 16, 2007

Waltzing Along posted:

Wow..VLR just goes on and on, doesn't it?

My first path ended with Dio. The next couple were The End. Then Clover. Then hours and hours of reading and puzzles and not a single finish. A couple locks. A couple unlocks. Branches that were hidden extending all the way down the page. I'm guessing at some point things will speed up. Really enjoying it, but I am over 20 hours now and don't feel anywhere close to finishing. So a little burned out. Especially because of all the times I'd just stare at the screen for a minute while it wanders around opening doors and riding elevators and nothing is happening.

Based on the Password pages, I have 3 rooms and one password to go, so hooray.

It's been years since I played it, but I think VLR speeds up significantly in terms of unlocking endings at about 20ish hours. The true ending is very long and intricate, though, so be prepared and not too sleepy.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

the truth posted:

It's been years since I played it, but I think VLR speeds up significantly in terms of unlocking endings at about 20ish hours. The true ending is very long and intricate, though, so be prepared and not too sleepy.

I finished it yesterday and it does speed up in that as you eliminate the upper paths, the lower ones become shorter. But the final path took me about 2.5 hours to get through. Great sci-fi story, though. Just a bit long. Took 30 hours to play, of which maybe 5 hours was gameplay, and another 2 hours was watching a dot move around a map and doors opening.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

BeastMaster KS seems to be stalling a bit and results look grim. Otome may be more niche than I realize.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/688648305/beastmaster-and-prince-flower-and-snow

Caitlin
Aug 18, 2006

When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

Alder posted:

BeastMaster KS seems to be stalling a bit and results look grim. Otome may be more niche than I realize.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/688648305/beastmaster-and-prince-flower-and-snow

Honestly I think the "no Vita port" is hitting them really hard.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Caitlin posted:

Honestly I think the "no Vita port" is hitting them really hard.

I partially agree but PSV is somewhat of a niche and probably would cost more.

Doesn't mean I don't want it though.

Caitlin
Aug 18, 2006

When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

Alder posted:

I partially agree but PSV is somewhat of a niche and probably would cost more.

Doesn't mean I don't want it though.

For what it's worth I don't disagree with you either, it's just that a big chunk of the (existing western) otoge market is already pretty invested in the Vita and I reeeeeeally hate mobile gaming. And if I'm in front of my computer I'm usually busy playing Diablo or something. :sigh:

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Caitlin posted:

For what it's worth I don't disagree with you either, it's just that a big chunk of the (existing western) otoge market is already pretty invested in the Vita and I reeeeeeally hate mobile gaming. And if I'm in front of my computer I'm usually busy playing Diablo or something. :sigh:
I love that the otome game demographic overlaps with the Diablo demographic. Stick that in your market research and smoke it, suits!!

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

i'll back one of these games when i can be a girl and date girls

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

voltcatfish posted:

i'll back one of these games when i can be a girl and date girls

?! i don't even know how you would program that...

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:

?! i don't even know how you would program that...

It's true, gay is uncodeable.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
I've actually done some experiments with that in my spare time. People think it's really hard to implement, but it turns out to be pretty trivial once you know what you're doing.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Caitlin posted:

For what it's worth I don't disagree with you either, it's just that a big chunk of the (existing western) otoge market is already pretty invested in the Vita and I reeeeeeally hate mobile gaming. And if I'm in front of my computer I'm usually busy playing Diablo or something. :sigh:

True mobile games are terrible and never worth it. I hear ya I hate reading hours and hours on my PC when I have a tablet. Also tons of decent otoge is being ported to vita nowadays.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
I see that a game subtitled "The Eternity She Wished For" came out on Steam the other day. I know literally nothing about it, but it always makes me happy to see another name that could have come straight out of my visual novel name generator.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

voltcatfish posted:

i'll back one of these games when i can be a girl and date girls

Kindred Spirits is out on Steam right now.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Kindred Spirits is certainly the best yuri visual novel to be translated. It feels pretty different from most yuri crap I've encountered, although admittedly I tend to stay away from the genre. Mainly, it doesn't really feel creepy or exploitative.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
it's a good damned game

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
It's extremely good. I feel bad for talking so much poo poo about it earlier.

Thuryl
Mar 14, 2007

My postillion has been struck by lightning.
To the person who was asking about Hourglass of Lepidoptera earlier: it just got pulled from Steam due to various fuckery by the Japanese devs, so, uh, I guess that makes your decision for you.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

voltcatfish posted:

I'll play CHAOS;HEAD then.

It's bad. Steins;Gate was a fluke.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Thuryl posted:

To the person who was asking about Hourglass of Lepidoptera earlier: it just got pulled from Steam due to various fuckery by the Japanese devs, so, uh, I guess that makes your decision for you.

Cool. I like having less decisions to make in my life.

Also just chipping in on the yuri VN conversation from earlier: if you want a good clean yuri game without ickyness you need to spam the localizers to localize Hakuisei Renai Shoukougun/White Robe Love Syndrome because it is the best non-adult yuri game. It's about Japanese nurses and it was written with the help of Japanese nurses so it's half fairly realistic representation of being a female nurse in Japan and half really sweet love story. I think I've mentioned it before and I'll probably mention it again whenever yuri games come up because it's seriously really good. For those who can read Japanese it's available on both PC and PSP.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Getsuya posted:

Also just chipping in on the yuri VN conversation from earlier: if you want a good clean yuri game without ickyness you need to spam the localizers to localize Hakuisei Renai Shoukougun/White Robe Love Syndrome because it is the best non-adult yuri game.
I mean, that won't do any good if the rights-holders aren't interested. Who developed it? Did they have an external publisher, or did they do it themselves? I'm pretty curious how something like that gets made. It seems like a hard sell.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

FractalSandwich posted:

I mean, that won't do any good if the rights-holders aren't interested. Who developed it? Did they have an external publisher, or did they do it themselves? I'm pretty curious how something like that gets made. It seems like a hard sell.

It was made by Kogado (or rather one of the many teams they bizarrely have for how small of a company they seem to be). Before it they were mostly known for making Symphonic Rain and a few other musical-themed non-adult VNs, some of which were ported and some of which weren't. Before that (a completely separate group in Kogado) made a Atelier-rip-off game for PC and PS2 that did well enough to get an OVA (which isn't saying much).

But Hakuisei was pure gold. They put it on the PSP where it scored huge sales, enough so that they then turned around and ported the PSP game to the PC as an enhanced version with new characters, then ported that enhanced version back onto the PSP and they all sold really well. Recently they just made a sequel for it for Vita but I'm not sure how that one did.

As for publishers, it looks like they worked with Cyber Front for the 1st game, though CyberFront is now defunct, so for the 2nd game it appears as if they handled that alone.

Thuryl
Mar 14, 2007

My postillion has been struck by lightning.
Well, I've gone ahead and bent the ear of my friend who works for Sekai Project about it, so we'll see if anything comes of that, I guess.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJX7UcLwdec

Here's the theme movie. Warning: contains very brief look at a girl in a bath so maybe don't watch it at work.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Getsuya posted:

It was made by Kogado (or rather one of the many teams they bizarrely have for how small of a company they seem to be). Before it they were mostly known for making Symphonic Rain and a few other musical-themed non-adult VNs, some of which were ported and some of which weren't. Before that (a completely separate group in Kogado) made a Atelier-rip-off game for PC and PS2 that did well enough to get an OVA (which isn't saying much).

But Hakuisei was pure gold. They put it on the PSP where it scored huge sales, enough so that they then turned around and ported the PSP game to the PC as an enhanced version with new characters, then ported that enhanced version back onto the PSP and they all sold really well. Recently they just made a sequel for it for Vita but I'm not sure how that one did.
What a nice story. I guess sometimes someone takes a risk on something unusual, and it turns out to be good and people buy it. It really does happen.

How old are the characters in this game? When you say "nurse", I tend to think of someone on the older side, which would be even more interesting, but that has to be asking too much, right?

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

FractalSandwich posted:

What a nice story. I guess sometimes someone takes a risk on something unusual, and it turns out to be good and people buy it. It really does happen.

How old are the characters in this game? When you say "nurse", I tend to think of someone on the older side, which would be even more interesting, but that has to be asking too much, right?

The main character and her friend are recent college graduates, 21 and 22. The head nurse is probably around 30 and one of the other nurses they work with who has a route is 26. Then there is a patient who is 20.
There are also two younger characters but they don't really get into the romantic stuff, their routes are more like the main character is a beloved big sister and then when they grow up there might be romance.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
Figures. Can't have everything, I guess. What's really crazy is that they're still at the higher end of the range for visual novel characters.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

FractalSandwich posted:

Figures. Can't have everything, I guess. What's really crazy is that they're still at the higher end of the range for visual novel characters.

Any older than that and all you've got are ancient lolis.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
We both know those aren't what I want.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
Your cries break like waves against Japan's uncaring shore. If we want older women in a VN we're gonna have to make our own.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!
Are there any good Horror Visual Novels on the level of Virtue's Last Reward and especially 999? I really hate how Uchikoshi had to tone it down for VLR and think the upcoming third Zero Escape game looks promising, but I want to fill that craving in the meanwhile.

Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Mar 5, 2016

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Getsuya posted:

Your cries break like waves against Japan's uncaring shore. If we want older women in a VN we're gonna have to make our own.
Let's do it, then. I could stand to learn Python.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

FractalSandwich posted:

Let's do it, then. I could stand to learn Python.

Actually there's tons of VN tools some of them don't require coding knowledge at all.

I'd so date older guys though :v:

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
But I'm not a writer. I'm not an artist. Programming is all I've got!

I can't believe computers are taking my jobs already.

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

Are there any good Horror Visual Novels on the level of Virtue's Last Reward and especially 999? I really hate how Uchikoshi had to tone it down for VLR and think the upcoming third Zero Escape game looks promising, but I want to fill that craving in the meanwhile.
It depends what you mean by "on the level of". There are loads that are as popular as 999/VLR or more so, but they're not all going to be accessible/engaging in the same way. There are decent arguments for any of the following, though:
  • The Dangan Ronpa series: Mystery/Horror. Somewhat oversaturated in their popularity, especially around these forums, but they do deserve a lot of the praise they get. Phoenix Wright-style gameplay, but with horror elements played up more.
  • The Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni series: Horror/Mystery. Much slower paced, dread-filled japanese style horror. No gameplay at all, not a lot of art. Absolutely a classic, but not all that accessible.
  • The Umineko no Naku Koro Ni series: Mystery/Horror. Higurashi, but with the pacing and craziness ratcheted up and the traditional horror ratcheted down. Still no gameplay, arguably even less art. Slightly more accessible.
  • Fate/Stay Night: Action/Horror. This is probably closest to 999's level of balance. Horror elements aren't all that frequent, but the writer takes full advantage of them when they come up. Minimal gameplay, good art, fairly accessible. Note that some versions contain pornographic scenes, because the Japanese PC game market is kind of messed up.
  • Tsukihime: Horror/Action. Probably the closest on this list to pure horror. Unfortunately if you want a non-pornographic version with good art you'll have to wait god knows how long for the remake.
I've still not played Steins;Gate, so while I know that it's very good I don't know how much horror there is in it. Maybe someone else can chime in?

The Zero Escape writer's other games are all strong as well, but they all have much less horror than the ZE games; they're generally more focussed on the mystery and science aspects.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Please don't add more to the pile of terrible western VNs on Steam

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Sakurazuka posted:

Please don't add more to the pile of terrible western VNs on Steam
Not my call, man. Take it up with Director Getsuya.

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

NRVNQSR posted:

It depends what you mean by "on the level of". There are loads that are as popular as 999/VLR or more so, but they're not all going to be accessible/engaging in the same way. There are decent arguments for any of the following, though:
  • The Dangan Ronpa series: Mystery/Horror. Somewhat oversaturated in their popularity, especially around these forums, but they do deserve a lot of the praise they get. Phoenix Wright-style gameplay, but with horror elements played up more.
  • The Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni series: Horror/Mystery. Much slower paced, dread-filled japanese style horror. No gameplay at all, not a lot of art. Absolutely a classic, but not all that accessible.
  • The Umineko no Naku Koro Ni series: Mystery/Horror. Higurashi, but with the pacing and craziness ratcheted up and the traditional horror ratcheted down. Still no gameplay, arguably even less art. Slightly more accessible.
  • Fate/Stay Night: Action/Horror. This is probably closest to 999's level of balance. Horror elements aren't all that frequent, but the writer takes full advantage of them when they come up. Minimal gameplay, good art, fairly accessible. Note that some versions contain pornographic scenes, because the Japanese PC game market is kind of messed up.
  • Tsukihime: Horror/Action. Probably the closest on this list to pure horror. Unfortunately if you want a non-pornographic version with good art you'll have to wait god knows how long for the remake.
I've still not played Steins;Gate, so while I know that it's very good I don't know how much horror there is in it. Maybe someone else can chime in?
There are a handful of scenes that might be construed as creepy/shocking but Steins;Gate is definitely not horror. It's very much just sci-fi.

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