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HEY GAL posted:i honestly cannot see His Grand Eminence Armand Jean du Plessis, Cardinal-Duke of Richelieu and of Fronsac, getting turnt I dunno; get him a brother in law, some wine, a dispute about family property, and a sword and let's see what happens.
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HEY GAL posted:the buff coat thing was a very classy gesture, though. props to austria who did you piss off
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Mar 3, 2016 20:50
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Man Whore posted:who did you piss off
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Mar 3, 2016 21:57
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HEY GAL posted:i'm the biggest SJW on SA, according to some people, and every time I post outside of A/T eventually those people find me. this has been happening for three years This always makes me giggle because if you were the biggest "SJW" nobody would give a poo poo about "SJWs". Putting it in quotes because its yet another term that's been Ruined By The Internet. Like it had value for about a week describing crazy fringe Tumblr types a few years ago, but then the misogynists started using it to describe any woman to the left of Marge Schott or Phillys Schlafly.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:This always makes me giggle because if you were the biggest "SJW" nobody would give a poo poo about "SJWs".
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Siivola posted:For most dudes in the field and on the streets... 
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From the way it reads, it sounds more like somebody just really hated the 30 years' war. Maybe some salty papists.
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Mar 4, 2016 04:54
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rip in peace deviant art landsknechtHEY GAL posted:edit: perhaps not coincidentally, Wallenstein's sword up there has the tip broken off. Alls I know is if some dude thinks his light rapier can 100% cut it in the battlefield and I happen to wearing a padded jack of 15 layers or more (AKA a warm shirt) imma have myself a hearty lol
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hard counter posted:Alls I know is if some dude thinks his light rapier can 100% cut it in the battlefield and I happen to wearing a padded jack of 15 layers or more (AKA a warm shirt) imma have myself a hearty lol (seriouspost though, civilians wore padded clothing too, and buff) HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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Mar 4, 2016 05:32
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hard counter posted:rip in peace deviant art landsknecht That can be fixed.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:53
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xthetenth posted:That can be fixed.
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Mar 4, 2016 05:57
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HEY GAL posted:(seriouspost though, civilians wore padded clothing too, and buff) All the way to good buff regularly? Geez. Those things were like 10£ in England while Gustavus' Drabants went with the ikea approach and bought the materials for good ones for like 4.5£ a head iirc. VVVV  a full suit of modern interceptor body armor costs half that
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hard counter posted:All the way to good buff regularly? Geez. Those things were like 10£ in England while Gustavus' Drabants went with the ikea approach and bought the materials for good ones for like 4.5£ a head iirc. and have you seen buff now? i'm waiting on a buff coat that'll be about $200 (they sent me one in the wrong size, i sent it back, and the replacement still isn't here yet) but the really good poo poo begins at about $3000 and just goes up from there. life is hard HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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Mar 4, 2016 06:19
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Buff is awesome, you really don't get a feel for how protective it is from the pictures
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hard counter posted:VVVV http://www.karlrobinson.co.uk/Gallery_buff_coats.html and excuse me, 2 1/2 k. I hosed up the exchange rate.
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Rabhadh posted:Buff is awesome, you really don't get a feel for how protective it is from the pictures I seriously feel like I would need to see one in action because that is correct. I can totally believe they stop bullets but they look like they would be torn to shreds by edged weapons.
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:I seriously feel like I would need to see one in action because that is correct. I can totally believe they stop bullets but they look like they would be torn to shreds by edged weapons. also it keeps your breast-and-back from digging into your shoulders 
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wait a minute. when a european says "elk," what specifically do they mean? do they mean moose? is GA on the battlefield with armor made out of moosehide? because holy lol
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HEY GAL posted:wait a minute. when a european says "elk," what specifically do they mean? do they mean moose? is GA on the battlefield with armor made out of moosehide? Yeah, moose.
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Mar 4, 2016 11:26
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Kemper Boyd posted:Yeah, moose.
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HEY GAL posted:am i allowed to hunt them in your country? we could try out rodrigo diaz's question Technically you could but it is complicated. This also inspired me to talk with my traditional artisan friend about how much they'd want to get paid for making a buff coat. Answer so far: these loving suck to make, it will cost a lot.
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Kemper Boyd posted:Technically you could but it is complicated. also they stink of powder right now but that's my own fault would recommend for fencing, would not recommend for pikes HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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hard counter posted:Alls I know is if some dude thinks his light rapier can 100% cut it in the battlefield and I happen to wearing a padded jack of 15 layers or more (AKA a warm shirt) imma have myself a hearty lol I get a good chuckle at all the museum displays with full 16th century harness and a gilded rapier nestled in the gauntlet.
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DandyLion posted:I get a good chuckle at all the museum displays with full 16th century harness and a gilded rapier nestled in the gauntlet.
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Mar 4, 2016 15:48
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MikeCrotch posted:The Romans almost lost the Second Battle of Beneventum because the Roman commander promised the majority slave army that any slave who brought him a Carthaginian head would be freed. Predictably, the slaves spent so much time cutting off heads that they started losing the battle - the Roman general had to tell all the slaves they would be free at the end of the battle so that they would stop looting and actually finish the fight. The Hittites lost the battle of Kadesh because their dudes stopped to loot Ramses's camp before the battle was finished. Probably a big problem in an era where soldiers are expected to support themselves through plunder rather than an organized quartermaster corps.
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Mar 4, 2016 16:58
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:I seriously feel like I would need to see one in action because that is correct. I can totally believe they stop bullets but they look like they would be torn to shreds by edged weapons. G2A's coat was pierced by both shot and sword. btw, how much do those coats weigh?
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Mar 4, 2016 17:09
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sullat posted:The Hittites lost the battle of Kadesh because their dudes stopped to loot Ramses's camp before the battle was finished. Probably a big problem in an era where soldiers are expected to support themselves through plunder rather than an organized quartermaster corps. British officers in India had to go ahead of the main army and smash any booze bottles that the Indians had "helpfully" left lying around because they knew the men would just get pissed instead of marching, so I think this is just soldiers throughout all of history really
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Mar 4, 2016 17:16
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Hogge Wild posted:G2A's coat was pierced by both shot and sword. I read that as GZA and was like, nah man ain't no one getting the Wu Tang
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Mar 4, 2016 17:28
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I assume a buff coat can't stop a point blank gunshot. So, at what distances could you expect a buff coat to protect against pistol shots, musket shots, and arquebusier shots?
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Mar 4, 2016 20:36
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Hogge Wild posted:G2A's coat was pierced by both shot and sword. about five pounds, to judge from the one I got before I sent it back. That one has no sleeves.
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HEY GAL posted:untrue. the dudes who killed him noticed a Swedish officer who was dressed well and escorted by a large group of people, so probably important, and moving funny--one of his arms had been shattered, probably from a firearm but I don't remember. There was a melee for a while, one of them yelled "here's our bird," rode up to him, pressed his pistol into his back, and shot him. When he fell from his horse, someone blew his head open at point-blank range with another pistol. Ok, I checked and most online sources say that he was also stabbed in the chest with a sword. The only history book that I have about him doesn't mention the sword.
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Hogge Wild posted:Ok, I checked and most online sources say that he was also stabbed in the chest with a sword. The only history book that I have about him doesn't mention the sword.
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HEY GAL posted:i'm the biggest SJW on SA, according to some people, and every time I post outside of A/T eventually those people find me. this has been happening for three years I'm sorry I missed whatever your avatar was set to in the interim, but I can't read this post and not say "Social Justice Landsknechte".
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don't worry there's data out there for all, dimensions and damage http://emuseumplus.lsh.se/eMuseumPlus?service=ExternalInterface&module=collection&objectId=67689&viewType=detailView
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HEY GAL posted:really? huh. you may be right, i've never seen his coat in person, which would settle it for me Here's a large pic of it: 
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Hogge Wild posted:Here's a large pic of it: first person accounts are too often "a bunch of confused stuff happened and also i totally have this pair of cool spurs now, look at me LOOK AT ME"
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Hogge Wild posted:Here's a large pic of it: Here's a blog post from the Victoria and Albert museum which talks about it in more depth, and shows the bullet hole. No sword damage. The author claims it wasn't help against a direct sword blow, though. http://www.vam.ac.uk/blog/research-department/in-the-buff
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:Here's a blog post from the Victoria and Albert museum which talks about it in more depth, and shows the bullet hole. No sword damage. The author claims it wasn't help against a direct sword blow, though. gustavus adolphus's Articles of War specifically forbid doing magic (it's the first couple articles, to let you know how seriously he took that), and look how well that worked out for him
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HEY GAL posted:when wallenstein's brother in law trzcka was assassinated his assailants' daggers bounced off so they beat him to death with their carbines, but the personal accounts from that blame it on him knowing the magic that makes you unwoundable, not his elkskin coat It could also be that, being 17th century guys, the assassins were all emaciated and struck with the fearsome strength of sick lambs
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