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Voyager I posted:TW games have had chariots every time there was a faction they could justify giving them to. I can't imagine they'd miss a chance to have chariots pulled by boars. CA's posted Greenskin and Chaos rosters both have multiple confirmed chariots, they just haven't shown them off yet for whatever reason. Edit: I don't think they ever got around to putting the Chaos roster on their Wiki, but you can get it from the steam page. quote:Full Unit Roster: I'd actually forgotten that Chaos has chariots as a mount option for Heroes/Leaders, that's pretty cool. madmac fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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No daemons for the only playable chaos faction jfc
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Mar 4, 2016 15:58
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Mar 4, 2016 15:59
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Phi230 posted:No daemons for the only playable chaos faction jfc daemons are a separate faction
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Mar 4, 2016 16:00
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Has it been confirmed that all factions get three legendary lords or is this based on Warriors of Chaos getting three?
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Mar 4, 2016 16:01
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If you play chaos and you pick Archaon over the Prince of Fabulous or the giant loving dragon ogre something is wrong with your brain.
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Mar 4, 2016 16:01
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Prince loving Sigvald is one of the chosen leaders for Chaos? CA 
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Mar 4, 2016 16:06
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So wait, how do legendary lords work... do you get to pick? I thought you always started out with the faction leader and then could recruit the others through quests or events Also, what is the difference between a lord and a hero
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Mar 4, 2016 16:07
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Lord Hypnostache posted:Has it been confirmed that all factions get three legendary lords or is this based on Warriors of Chaos getting three? It seems to be based on Chaos having three so far. That said, adding another to the current factions would be pretty easy. Dwarfs and Greenskins could get Belegar and Skarsnik quite easily, since both are tied to Karak Eight Peaks which will likely be the focus of a few quests. Empire has quite a few choices but my money would be on Volkmar the murder-pope. Dre2Dee2 posted:Also, what is the difference between a lord and a hero Lords are generals, Heroes are agents (that can also fight on the battlefield)
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Mar 4, 2016 16:09
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Dre2Dee2 posted:So wait, how do legendary lords work... do you get to pick? I thought you always started out with the faction leader and then could recruit the others through quests or events You pick any Legendary Lord you want to start with, and each has a factionwide bonus for picking them. Lords are your generals. You have one per army, and one army per lord. Heroes are your agents. They can either be split from an army to act on their own and do agent-y actions, or they can join an army and give said army a bonus while being able to fight on the battlefield like a one man unit.
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Mar 4, 2016 16:11
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TheLastRoboKy posted:Repanse de Lyonesse Well of course Bretonnia has a Jeanne d'Arc analogue 
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Mar 4, 2016 16:13
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Its me I'm the problem I preordered I need my Spiky Mans DEELCEE
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Mar 4, 2016 16:30
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You guys are throwing so many nerd words around I have no idea what you're talking about But if it means more of those rad dudes I'm seeing in the videos bashing on each other, bring on NerdWord McKnight Count Karak UzGuz Of Britonnia
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Mar 4, 2016 16:38
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I prefer one generic Chaos Lord over Archaon any day of the week, at least you can give him a manticore or a chaos dragon.
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Mar 4, 2016 16:40
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Mar 4, 2016 16:41
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Angry Lobster posted:I prefer one generic Chaos Lord over Archaon any day of the week, at least you can give him a manticore or a chaos dragon. Get Harry the Hammer out. Special ability: Causes Fear in Undead. Harry the Hammer went into a mountain one day, discovered it was full of skeletons and undead, and slaughtered so many of them singlehandedly that he broke the rules of the universe and caused an inanimate, souless object to know fear.
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Mar 4, 2016 16:42
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quote:He (Sigvald) is spoiled by Slaanesh and is described as being extremely self-centered: his body-guards bear mirrored shields so that he may preen himself in the midst of battle. Oh my loving god.  I may just go Chaos now.
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Mar 4, 2016 16:51
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BillBear posted:Prince I recall one anecdote where he went on a scalping spree in High Elf territory because he heard someone claim they had better hair than he did. He's basically Joffery, if Joffery was backed by demons and he had the balls to fight in the field.
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BillBear posted:Prince He heard that elves have better hair then him, so he lead a Chaos warband into Ulthuan to scalp as many as possible. During the final battle, the blood reminded him of a wine he disliked, so he wandered off to kill the winemaker in Bretonnia.
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Phi230 posted:No daemons for the only playable chaos faction jfc Arch? Arch Warhammer? Is that you? You sound like him. Arch Warhammer is a Youtuber who simply cannot stop bitching about how CA is "loving up" the army lists by missing out on minor poo poo like the flagellants or the knight orders and what have you. I don't know if hes a geniune grog or if hes using the hateCA crowd to get hits but its all he ever talks about more or less. I watched a few of his episodes, but quickly stopped because the guy is such a whiny twit that nothing CA ever does is right, its all poo poo and its all terrible and "not true to warhammer!!". While i agree that theres a good chance we'll see some of theese units as DLC, and nor do i condone that practice, its still quite a leap to be constantly hounding CA over every little percieved mistake.
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Has Norsca been confirmed to be in the game? I was wondering how Chaos campaigns would go: I assumed it would be horde-based entirely, with your initial goal to unite the Chaos Gods' warbands through force and/or diplomacy, subjugate the Norscans, and then kill the rest of the Old World while using your Norscan vassal's provinces as safe havens.
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toasterwarrior posted:Has Norsca been confirmed to be in the game? I was wondering how Chaos campaigns would go: I assumed it would be horde-based entirely, with your initial goal to unite the Chaos Gods' warbands through force and/or diplomacy, subjugate the Norscans, and then kill the rest of the Old World while using your Norscan vassal's provinces as safe havens. Norsca is confirmed to be a non-playable faction. Well, factions, there are several minor Norscan factions. Norscans and Chaos Hordes (according to the campaign videos) tend to go through cycles of infighting until one of them builds up enough momentum to become a major threat, and then spills south to wreck everything's poo poo.
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Gejnor posted:Arch? Arch Warhammer? Is that you? You sound like him. Yeah hes a mix of both Grog and of the TWCenter breed. Pretty terrifying.
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Kaza42 posted:Norsca is confirmed to be a non-playable faction. Well, factions, there are several minor Norscan factions. Norscans and Chaos Hordes (according to the campaign videos) tend to go through cycles of infighting until one of them builds up enough momentum to become a major threat, and then spills south to wreck everything's poo poo. Cool, the idea of having a pet faction to order around and act as a buffer while burning the world is really neat. With multiple Norscan factions, I hope it goes something like picking your "favorite" from the lot, helping it dominate the North and kick every other Chaos warband/tribe's rear end, and then joyride with your best friend into the apocalypse.
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MadJackMcJack posted:It seems to be based on Chaos having three so far. That said, adding another to the current factions would be pretty easy. Dwarfs and Greenskins could get Belegar and Skarsnik quite easily, since both are tied to Karak Eight Peaks which will likely be the focus of a few quests. I thought Wurrzag Da Great Green Prophet was confirmed as the third Orc Leader. Though that may have just been speculation. Dre2Dee2 posted:So wait, how do legendary lords work... do you get to pick? I thought you always started out with the faction leader and then could recruit the others through quests or events You pick which legendary lord you want at the start of the game, and have the option of recruiting the ones you didn't pick during the game.
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Legendary lords work like the roman/carthaginian sub-factions in Rome 2, but each one also gives you a special super general as opposed to just stat bonuses. Also, re: unit variety Armoured Legionaries Eagle Cohort Evocati Cohort First Cohort Legionaries Legionary Cohort Praetorian Guard Praetorians Veteran Legionaries Don't get me wrong, units getting a new skin with every incremental +5 armour upgrade is pretty cool but please don't act as if they aren't all essentially the same dudes with rectangle shields and shortswords.
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One thing I am happy of is that they got what little units they have actually look good. Also Ork spore clouds while bugged and over-exaggerated I'm glad they're paying attention to details like that, that set warhammer apart from other fantasy stuff. Also the terrain looks great. I know I've bitched about rosters before but my only real gripe from what I've actually seen are the small unit sizes but we don't know what sizes they're using. Also arrow trails look awful but they say you can disable those. Nothing mods can't fix. Phi230 fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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The fart clouds are removed, they said it was a particle bug or something. I'm kinda glad though since it looked like the entire army had irritable bowel syndrome. I reckon they'll make Nurgle's men look like that though.
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Ammanas posted:So I just realized warhammer tabletop players are going to be this games twcenter posters. Insufferable, persistently unhappy with how CA implemented their version of 'history'...meanwhile like 75% of dudes just want a solid strat/tactical game I strongly doubt this. CA has its own following of terrible idiots mad about DLC or a TW game that isn't ABOUT HISTORY  , we've already seen a mix of both side's village idiots yelling from the rooftops. Tbh as a Warhammer fan since my early teens, I care far more about a balanced/fun game than I do about CA making sure that every unit in each faction's Holy Scripture is represented. What's important is that they capture the essence of each faction and they seem to be doing a stellar job so far (that book of grudges,  ).
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2 SPOOKY posted:What's important is that they capture the essence of each faction and they seem to be doing a stellar job so far (that book of grudges, It's dumb, I know, but I'm actually worried about this when it comes to my favourite faction, the Skaven, as half the fun is blowing up your own army through the vagaries of Dread Arengee (the other half being Clan Skryre). That being said, they do seem to be making a serious effort to capture the feel of each army, so maybe I'm worrying about nothing. victrix posted:You guys are throwing so many nerd words around I have no idea what you're talking about You only need to know the DOOOMWHEEEL! 
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The problem with Skaven will be implementing them on a strategic level. Anyone that's forgotten their muskets on "fire at will" while sending a block of infantry in front of them knows that TW can definitely capture the spirit of Skaven and the Arrengee.
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That's a good pont. For those not in the know, the Skaven have outposts all over the world, from Nippon to Lustria, so world conquest might not be a thing. Maybe a bigger focus on storyline? After all, a good Skaven story would have plenty of betrayals (both by and inflicted on you) and whatnot, with plenty of black comedy, so that might be their campaign's strength.
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CommissarMega posted:That's a good pont. For those not in the know, the Skaven have outposts all over the world, from Nippon to Lustria, so world conquest might not be a thing. Maybe a bigger focus on storyline? After all, a good Skaven story would have plenty of betrayals (both by and inflicted on you) and whatnot, with plenty of black comedy, so that might be their campaign's strength. With the caveat that an "outpost" contains something in the range of a couple hundred thousand Skaven. E: okay maybe the numbers are off but the point is that a competent commander with the sheer ratpower of the Skaven would take over the world by the end of turn 3 in TW terms. There's going to have to be a bit of work turning them into a playable faction, probably based on the reactions to how well/poorly the VCs get implemented on the campaign map. Triskelli fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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CommissarMega posted:That's a good pont. For those not in the know, the Skaven have outposts all over the world, from Nippon to Lustria, so world conquest might not be a thing. Maybe a bigger focus on storyline? After all, a good Skaven story would have plenty of betrayals (both by and inflicted on you) and whatnot, with plenty of black comedy, so that might be their campaign's strength. Best way to implement them was something someone else already posted, make shitloads of different subclans that are kind of members of the larger clans and you have to run around trying to beat them up or make alliances but they constantly backstab you and make it extremely hard to actually go and actually attack anyone outside the under empire. And if you do manage to make a large skaven empire it just starts rebelling etc. Edit: Even better, implement the council of 13. Washout fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Mar 4, 2016 |
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So CA's Total War campaign AI in its purest form yet.
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 Heroes of Might and Magic 3 was a really good game and now i want this game to be released ASAP so that i can pretend i'm restoring Erathia
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Mans posted:
I never played much Warhammer FB (I was into 40K more) do Britonnia / The Empire get Angels?  And I think I'm gonna play as Orks or Chaos before Empire. Empire isn't that different from Medieval: total war! (Okay yes it is)
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Orcs seem like the best faction to start with, if only because you don't have to worry so much about that "economy" thing. Just fight and win and everything will work itself out.
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Washout posted:Best way to implement them was something someone else already posted, make shitloads of different subclans that are kind of members of the larger clans and you have to run around trying to beat them up or make alliances but they constantly backstab you and make it extremely hard to actually go and actually attack anyone outside the under empire. And if you do manage to make a large skaven empire it just starts rebelling etc. remember to have "upstart generals" and "promotion given to subordinate" apply to literally every recruit/appointment so you're juggling dudes on 2/10 loyalty all the time
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Zaphod42 posted:I never played much Warhammer FB (I was into 40K more) do Britonnia / The Empire get Angels? Nope, not really any angels in WFB.
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