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Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
Alright...

Which one of you goonie fucks has a 7* level 70 Teebo? That piece of poo poo popped up on my money challenge today.

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Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
So I just 7*'ed my 7th F2P Character.

Sources for each:
GW Token: 3
Arena Tokens: 2
Cantina Tokens: 1
Cantina Battles: 1

I spent some time grinding out a Daka in there too, but I think this is about the speed/curve you can expect from the various sources.

So I will probably have 7 starred at least 1 more GW toon before QGJ is done, and I'll probably finish up Greedo around the same time. So you're getting characters at least 2x faster form GW than from Cantina, probably close to 3x faster.

Why the gently caress do they keep adding characters to the Cantina shop? Please add more toons to GW, because I'm now just Starring up Resistance Pilot because I can... I have no plan to use him.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Chilichimp posted:

So I just 7*'ed my 7th F2P Character.

Sources for each:
GW Token: 3
Arena Tokens: 2
Cantina Tokens: 1
Cantina Battles: 1

I spent some time grinding out a Daka in there too, but I think this is about the speed/curve you can expect from the various sources.

So I will probably have 7 starred at least 1 more GW toon before QGJ is done, and I'll probably finish up Greedo around the same time. So you're getting characters at least 2x faster form GW than from Cantina, probably close to 3x faster.

Why the gently caress do they keep adding characters to the Cantina shop? Please add more toons to GW, because I'm now just Starring up Resistance Pilot because I can... I have no plan to use him.
Cantina shop costs the most premium currency to grind tokens.
100 energy then 200 energy etc.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

cowofwar posted:

Cantina shop costs the most premium currency to grind tokens.
100 energy then 200 energy etc.

Regardless, I'm going to run out of characters 7* in there in the next 2 months.

Malgrin
Mar 16, 2010

Chilichimp posted:

Sources for each:
GW Token: 3
Arena Tokens: 2
Cantina Tokens: 1
Cantina Battles: 1

I've done a bit more waffling than you.
From Cantina Tokens, I have: 5* QGJ, 5* Daka, 5* Poe
From Cantina Battles, I have: 7* Luke, 4* Barriss, 6* Dooku, and some of JC's 4th and 5th stars, also 2* GS.
From GW, I have: 7* Lumi, 7* Resistance Pilot, 7* Poggle
from Arena, I have: 7* Sid, 6* Asajj, got Ackbar's 5th star, and now I'm working on 88.

Also, for the past week, I have decided that GW needs a sacrifice to the shard shop. This CLEARLY makes the following day's GW easier, and no, your reasoning won't change my mind.

Honestly though, it's worth it for the occasional time that you can pick up 2 shards for a hero that only comes in Cantina tokens or HM shards.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Malgrin posted:

I've done a bit more waffling than you.
From Cantina Tokens, I have: 5* QGJ, 5* Daka, 5* Poe
From Cantina Battles, I have: 7* Luke, 4* Barriss, 6* Dooku, and some of JC's 4th and 5th stars, also 2* GS.
From GW, I have: 7* Lumi, 7* Resistance Pilot, 7* Poggle
from Arena, I have: 7* Sid, 6* Asajj, got Ackbar's 5th star, and now I'm working on 88.

Also, for the past week, I have decided that GW needs a sacrifice to the shard shop. This CLEARLY makes the following day's GW easier, and no, your reasoning won't change my mind.

Honestly though, it's worth it for the occasional time that you can pick up 2 shards for a hero that only comes in Cantina tokens or HM shards.

The total Tally is like:
GW Tokens: 7* Lumi, 7* Phasma, 7* Poggle
Arena Tokens: 7* Sid, 7* Eeth Koth, 3* Assaj, 3* Greedo
Cantina Tokens: 7* Poe (got 3 star for free after TFA), 4* Daka, 4* QGJ
Cantina Battles: 7* Luke, 5* Barris, 5* JC, 4* Chewie
HM Battles: 4* Dooku (stopped grinding here, I'll finish him after Barris), 3* FOTP, and I've been supplementing the Poggle/Barris grinds with HM's. I'm about 40 deep into Rey (:flashfap:)

Malgrin
Mar 16, 2010

Chilichimp posted:

The total Tally is like:
GW Tokens: 7* Lumi, 7* Phasma, 7* Poggle
Arena Tokens: 7* Sid, 7* Eeth Koth, 3* Assaj, 3* Greedo
Cantina Tokens: 7* Poe (got 3 star for free after TFA), 4* Daka, 4* QGJ
Cantina Battles: 7* Luke, 5* Barris, 5* JC, 4* Chewie
HM Battles: 4* Dooku (stopped grinding here, I'll finish him after Barris), 3* FOTP, and I've been supplementing the Poggle/Barris grinds with HM's. I'm about 40 deep into Rey (:flashfap:)

Oh yeah, I forgot that I got 5* Eeth.
Yeah, from HM, I've got FOTP almost to 3, Rey is 4* (almost 5), I've almost got Resistance Trooper to 4, and Ewok Elder is also almost 4 (although I opened him at 3). I've also been doing Daka, but most of her shards come from Cantina, and I've been doing about one of Barriss' per day. I'm basically doing all of this with 2 refreshes and the 135 free energy...

I should probably put more energy into gear farming, but, for now, there's no one I really need to gear up for Arena, so I'm just trying to get as many hard mode shards as possible. Once QGJ hits 6*, I'll be working on his gear. I also am not bothering with the 50 purple items gear...the improvement you get from that much farming is not worth it. I've calculated it to about 2500 energy per item (at least -- I think it's actually more), and you just get so little value out of it, so I'm not bothering until you can get those items from challenges.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
I too have been ignoring the 100 purple hair dryers.

I get everything else, though.

Every toon I unlock gets to be lvl 40, IV gear with rank 3 in every ability. I'm super loving socialist with my lowbies.

Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound
The hair dryers will appear in one of the gear challenges at level 72. The purple cuffs, however, will not.

Malgrin
Mar 16, 2010

Davethulhu posted:

The hair dryers will appear in one of the gear challenges at level 72. The purple cuffs, however, will not.

Hmm, guess I should start farming those then.

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

Plz mr Cap'n'Games, give purple dildos, my anus is starving :negative:

My high star crew stable:
7* Poggle
7* Lumi
7* Sid
7* Dooku
7* Kylo Ren
6* Daka
6* QGJ
6* Asajj
6* Phasma
6* Iggy86

Don't get much use out of Poggle, Asajj or Iggy 86 yet. Poor synergy with the other high star people that I've kitted out.

Less than 10 shards left for Rey and Ahsoka to hit 5*. HK is already there but I don't have the credits (and he's lvl 1 so...).
Just now noticed that 1) I have a Hoth Rebel Scout at 3 stars and 2) He's already at 30 shards and if I had 100k to spare I could bring him to 4*
Too bad I've already maxed out the achievements for promotions, don't get nothing now :smith:

Jibo
May 22, 2007

Bear Witness
College Slice
I've been focusing on raising a Jedi team lately and it's kind of slow going because my interest in this game has been waning. Lumi is maxed to the max right now, JC is only 5 stars but everything else is nearly maxed on him, Eeth Koth is like gear level 5 and level 60 but he's about 50 shards away from hitting 7 stars, Qui Gon is in about the same place only he's just barely at 5 stars, Plo Koon is just kind of whatever, he's 6 stars but I haven't put much effort into him otherwise. Either way, I should be able to at least unlock Yoda next week without having spent any money getting there and maybe get him up to 7 stars once he comes back again next month.

I also got three whole Dooku characters from bronze packs over the last couple of weeks, two of them were in the same day. I've got him to 6 stars and I still haven't even unlocked his Cantina battle yet.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

If you do the early 8 energy Cantina Battle missions you get about twice as many Battle shards as Credit shards; if you do the 12 energy missions it's closer to 5:4 (still more CB shards).

Also since Jedi week starts in less than a week, Scoundrel event is at least 12 days away. There's still time to grind Lando, is I guess what I'm saying.

kaschei fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Mar 5, 2016

oops wrong forum
May 21, 2002

heh, you think you can withstand the power of my solarbeam?

Malgrin posted:

Oh yeah, I forgot that I got 5* Eeth.
Yeah, from HM, I've got FOTP almost to 3, Rey is 4* (almost 5), I've almost got Resistance Trooper to 4, and Ewok Elder is also almost 4 (although I opened him at 3). I've also been doing Daka, but most of her shards come from Cantina, and I've been doing about one of Barriss' per day. I'm basically doing all of this with 2 refreshes and the 135 free energy...

I should probably put more energy into gear farming, but, for now, there's no one I really need to gear up for Arena, so I'm just trying to get as many hard mode shards as possible. Once QGJ hits 6*, I'll be working on his gear. I also am not bothering with the 50 purple items gear...the improvement you get from that much farming is not worth it. I've calculated it to about 2500 energy per item (at least -- I think it's actually more), and you just get so little value out of it, so I'm not bothering until you can get those items from challenges.

I actually just started on the /50 farming after feeling like you do for the last couple months (exception GS since he needed it to get to Gear IX), I feel like we're getting rumblings of the next cap raise and everyone important needs them to get to Gear IX.

Malgrin
Mar 16, 2010

oops wrong forum posted:

I actually just started on the /50 farming after feeling like you do for the last couple months (exception GS since he needed it to get to Gear IX), I feel like we're getting rumblings of the next cap raise and everyone important needs them to get to Gear IX.

Yeah, I just don't see the point though. To get to G9, Lumi, Sid, Dooku, Poe and Luke all need 100. RP needs 50 (but he also needs 50 of the other one). Going out on a limb, I'm guessing that QGJ, Rey, and FOTP need somewhere between 50 and 100. Old Daka, fortunately, needs 0. I get how important G9 is, but I'd much rather go wide so that I can continue to beat GW day after day. Yeah, the shards may be poo poo, but that's like 500k gold every day (plus random other poo poo), and without that, you're screwed.

Also, I'm estimating somewhere between 5 and 10 tries per item. At 10 energy per try, that's 50-100 energy per item, and between 2500 and 5000 energy per completed item. The average is 3750, so that, times roughly 4 heroes (since that's probably how many you'll need to do this for) is 15000 energy.

Per day, you get 375 energy, and I'm just going to assume you use 100 crystals for another 240 energy (you should). at 600 energy, that's 25 days of doing nothing but farming that one item. I mean, really, it's range of somewhere between 17 and 35 days, but who's counting? At some point, I might start getting some, but until they include those in some form of challenge, I just don't see the point.

oops wrong forum
May 21, 2002

heh, you think you can withstand the power of my solarbeam?

Malgrin posted:

Yeah, I just don't see the point though. To get to G9, Lumi, Sid, Dooku, Poe and Luke all need 100. RP needs 50 (but he also needs 50 of the other one). Going out on a limb, I'm guessing that QGJ, Rey, and FOTP need somewhere between 50 and 100. Old Daka, fortunately, needs 0. I get how important G9 is, but I'd much rather go wide so that I can continue to beat GW day after day. Yeah, the shards may be poo poo, but that's like 500k gold every day (plus random other poo poo), and without that, you're screwed.

Also, I'm estimating somewhere between 5 and 10 tries per item. At 10 energy per try, that's 50-100 energy per item, and between 2500 and 5000 energy per completed item. The average is 3750, so that, times roughly 4 heroes (since that's probably how many you'll need to do this for) is 15000 energy.

Per day, you get 375 energy, and I'm just going to assume you use 100 crystals for another 240 energy (you should). at 600 energy, that's 25 days of doing nothing but farming that one item. I mean, really, it's range of somewhere between 17 and 35 days, but who's counting? At some point, I might start getting some, but until they include those in some form of challenge, I just don't see the point.

I believe the drop rate for the items has been confirmed at 20%, so use the 5 tries numbers. Of course, RNG and all that. I see what you're saying, but at some point you're going to have a huge bench of Gear 7 and 8 toons that are getting crushed by the Gear 9 and 10 teams you're gonna smash into, even in GW. If you have a solid 7* team right now, 3 healers, and a good 5*-7* B-team, you should already be crushing GW every day, and the difference between Gear 8 and Gear 9 is very big, hello Geo Soldier!

But the most important thing is to have fun, and grinding gear is not fun, so if you're okay possibly lagging behind so you have a cooler roster that's totally cool. I think with the last update, the additions of multiple new levels of Gear Challenges ensures we will get a chance to grab all of the /50 items at some point before level 80, and judging from the /50 Sensor challenge we already have, it's possible to grind out a full /50 gear in a week and a half from those Challenges alone. At least, if CG has a clue........okay bad track record there

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

kaschei posted:

If you do the early 8 energy Cantina Battle missions you get about twice as many Battle shards as Credit shards; if you do the 12 energy missions it's closer to 5:4 (still more CB shards).

Also since Jedi week starts in less than a week, Scoundrel event is at least 12 days away. There's still time to grind Lando, is I guess what I'm saying.

I'm still trying to get a jedi team together so I could possibly do the Yoda event.

Lumi and JC are fine but I have no money to train and gear up Level 57 4* Eeth Koth (Gear LvL VII), 58 3* Ahsoka Tano (Gear Lvl VII), and 43 2* Jedi Knight Guardian (Gear Lvl VI).

Man, two teams in a row that are bullshit. And I already fought THREE OTHER 70 teams just this board. If I'm supposed to be able to do this without losing more than a team and having cooldowns and health carry over then I deserve to be rank 1 in the arena.



kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

There's no reason to buy Ahsoka over QGJ except desperation to get 5 star yoda into your roster a month early.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.
Well Ahsoka was unlocked through Bronzium so I'm just working with what I have.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

You can unlock QGJ for the price of the 5 shipments it took to get Ahsoka from 2 to 3 stars, and then you're buying a great character instead of Ahsoka Tano.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Ularg posted:

Well Ahsoka was unlocked through Bronzium so I'm just working with what I have.

Ignore her, buy QGJ, the event will be back and Ashoka will still suck.

Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!
Lipstick Apathy
Results of the GW fix: I'm level 52 and I encountered a level 66 guy who had a 7-star Sidious.

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



Jenny Angel posted:

Results of the GW fix: I'm level 52 and I encountered a level 66 guy who had a 7-star Sidious.

But, are you still Jenny from the block?

Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!
Lipstick Apathy
If you mean did I beat all 12 stages, then yeah

Fenris13
Jun 6, 2003
It is obvious the fw fix didn't completly work, but it did something. My last two GW have been a cake walk with no 70 teams until the last four battles, and I have a 27k arena team.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.
The GW fix made it worse for me. There's no way I can finish it with the last 6 missions being all 6-7* 70s. Oh Asaj is gear level 3 so that's balanced then.

Edit: The dev comments in this thread are beautiful. https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/48z9ib/i_got_4_purple_laptops_in_a_row_today_ama/

Ularg fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Mar 5, 2016

Whitey Snipes
Nov 30, 2004

Fenris13 posted:

It is obvious the fw fix didn't completly work, but it did something. My last two GW have been a cake walk with no 70 teams until the last four battles, and I have a 27k arena team.

My two GWs since the "fix" have both had full 7* 70 teams within the first 3 nodes (I'm 62), before that I'd completed GW for about 10 days straight.

GW matchmaking being hosed is such a big deal because there's very little else to actually do in this game. I enjoy GoH but it is frustrating that CGs idea of content at higher levels is 5 arena matches, 3-5 challenges and simming your way through missions. GW being one of the most generous sources of progression also exacerbates the issue as it feels like you're dropping behind whenever you can't beat it.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Level 41 trip report

3* Geno soldier is a wrecking train. I can one shot people if he crits. Making arena fights so easy.

I also got 2* QGJ too and he is pretty great for removing taunts. That dmg plus call an assist in is pretty fast reuse time too.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Whitey Snipes posted:

My two GWs since the "fix" have both had full 7* 70 teams within the first 3 nodes (I'm 62), before that I'd completed GW for about 10 days straight.

GW matchmaking being hosed is such a big deal because there's very little else to actually do in this game. I enjoy GoH but it is frustrating that CGs idea of content at higher levels is 5 arena matches, 3-5 challenges and simming your way through missions. GW being one of the most generous sources of progression also exacerbates the issue as it feels like you're dropping behind whenever you can't beat it.

That's the biggest thing. GW is like the only mode where I'm actually playing the game and the matchmaking makes me quit early. Just make the rewards less if you want to have the same effect. I just want to play the drat game sometimes.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Tai posted:

Level 41 trip report

3* Geno soldier is a wrecking train. I can one shot people if he crits. Making arena fights so easy.

I also got 2* QGJ too and he is pretty great for removing taunts. That dmg plus call an assist in is pretty fast reuse time too.

I got it in my head to make an all rebel team, so I'm shooting for ST Han, Akbar, HR Scout, Luke, and Biggs.

I already wish I wasn't an idiot.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE
I've had oddly good luck from bronzium cards. So far I've managed to pull Lobot, Ashoka, and Dooku from them. I think I also got Clone Trooper twice now but whatevs on that. Getting Ashoka and Dooku saved me grinding my rear end on them to unlock them at least which is really rad.

Edit: Did they nerf the amount of tickets you get when buying energy? I could have sworn it used to give you 25 for regular and cantina but It seems like regular gives you 20 and cantina only gives you 10 now.

Tracula fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Mar 5, 2016

Mr. Neutron
Sep 15, 2012

~I'M THE BEST~


GW is fixed.:v:

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





Mr. Neutron posted:



GW is fixed.:v:

I mean, if their fix is matching teams based on total squad power, this is a pretty great way to troll people.

Jibo
May 22, 2007

Bear Witness
College Slice
121 Hard Mode levels run this week - 8 shards total

I'm wondering if I've been shoved off into some kind of RNG hell.

Also I've been unable to complete two GWs this week. Prior to the update but after the update that changed how retreat worked I only failed one. :(

oops wrong forum
May 21, 2002

heh, you think you can withstand the power of my solarbeam?

Mr. Neutron posted:



GW is fixed.:v:

:bravo:

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.
Yea, I've noticed the way GW matchmaking justifies this bullshit is the entire team are level 70 7-star characters, but Asaaj or Poe are Gear Level II or something.

oops wrong forum
May 21, 2002

heh, you think you can withstand the power of my solarbeam?

Ularg posted:

Yea, I've noticed the way GW matchmaking justifies this bullshit is the entire team are level 70 7-star characters, but Asaaj or Poe are Gear Level II or something.

Gear lvl II characters are completely worthless so this should be in your benefit?

xyigx
Nov 6, 2012

Chilichimp posted:

Ignore her, buy QGJ, the event will be back and Ashoka will still suck.

She actually is not bad at all at higher gear levels. A bit slow but certainly not sucks. I assume you don't have her at higher level since your saying this. She has one if if not the highest crit rating in the game, her passive is a % HP increase per ally alive (giving her quite a bump in HP at higher levels). While she needs a qgj lead in the current speed meta she is by no means bad.


Edit Lol just had sid Dodge my gw Jedi team 23 times in a row. Nope no ai advantage at all.

xyigx fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Mar 6, 2016

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

xyigx posted:

She actually is not bad at all at higher gear levels. A bit slow but certainly not sucks. I assume you don't have her at higher level since your saying this. She has one if if not the highest crit rating in the game, her passive is a % HP increase per ally alive (giving her quite a bump in HP at higher levels). While she needs a qgj lead in the current speed meta she is by no means bad.

*nod*

So as we were saying, get QGJ first, he's the far better and more useful Jedi.

Cantina currency is no joke, guys. It's the slowest way to get characters shards second only to Hard Mode farming. You really need to focus it on the key characters. Daka, QGJ, and Poe. You can't even really use Ahsoka until you've got a QGJ, and that's coming from the only guy I've seen say she's "not bad".

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Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

oops wrong forum posted:

Gear lvl II characters are completely worthless so this should be in your benefit?

Oh yeah that's great Asajj is super weak and useless while the rest (Lumi, Sid, Dooku, Rey) are completely maxed out in gear and stars. having that 1 character advantage doesn't help when my JC can get one-shot by rey and she gets rewarded with a 100% dodge for it.

I'm about ready to do one less regular energy refill a day. I haven't kept a complete tally (I might do this tonight if I have time) but I feel like I get just about 150 crystals each day. So if I do two 50 energy refills I carry over an extra 50 day to day. But if I do a cantina refill on top of that I am losing 50 energy each day and I can't keep that up. So I'm wondering if I should just do one less 50 energy refill for LS/DS missions and be able to do a cantina refresh once a day.

Because right now that one 50 energy refill is enough to do all the HM missions for Lumi and JC with some left over for gear farming. And anything else can use the energy from the mid-day free refills.

But I could use more cantina energy to I can finish maxing out Geo and then have an extra source to finish off JC before moving on to another Cantina shard.

Ularg fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Mar 6, 2016

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