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What Cat Machine said works. Try it in practice with different timings: if it doesn't come out at all, it's too fast. If it comes out and it doesn't combo, it's too slow. Once you get that timing, commit it to muscle memory. An old trick I do when learning combos etc is to do 20-30 reps and if I miss, start again. Force yourself to learn that timing so that you can move on from it and you'll never miss. Also yes, double/triple tapping is recommended due to the frame buffer.
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Jmcrofts posted:Doing a different kind of video today - I downloaded a Daigo replay and did kind of a play-by-play to break down what's going on. Pls let me know if you think it works Fun video! I always like these things and would love more match analysis videos, but that's just me. I just want to say, when Daigo has conditioned the opponent to jump in for free, at 8:09 he goes for a sHK anti-air but misses, but you didn't comment on that. I think it's a moment that shows Daigo's full intentions - he is going to punish all anti-airs that he can from that moment on, he just whiffed that one. The Chun doesn't realise and jumps in again, getting hit by another deep SRK, and this time the Chun stays grounded...for a short while. This sort of punish you see a lot in tense matches where a player is conditioned to do something. You hit someone with something unexpected once, and chances are, in the next few moments, it doesn't quite register and you can go for it again. The Chun even gets hit by another anti-air soon after because going in by ground wasn't working and rushed instead. If a mixup works once, chances are it will work twice before someone notices. However, most people tend to remember these between matches/rounds.. Other things that could have been mentioned: - The first V-Trigger for Chun I thought was a good mixup. When Chun activates most people right now are conditioned into "Okay, Chun's turn" and this Chun does an immediate throw. If a throw is all you need to win a match, this might be an option to consider. - The first wake up Shoryuken conditions the Chun to hang back a bit after wakeup. The Chun rushed in after almost all knockdowns but the next two knockdowns the Chun decides to hang back immediately - and Daigo recognises this and never does another wake up Shoryuken. - The Chun seems to panic when their back is to the corner - jump forwards or back throws ASAP. Compare that to Daigo, who, especially in round 2, seemed to relish the corner and used it to his advantage to try and bait the Chun into doing something stupid. I'm sure there are other things that could be said too, but these I feel are worth mentioning from that particular match.
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Here a question. My region is pretty much isolated from the world being Southern Africa. So I never get matchups with overseas regions which is fine because it would be a laggy mess. However I have pretty much added most of this regions players to my favourites (80+ players , some active and some not too much ) so we can game, and I can see what they are doing. edit: god the favorite section sucks Now when I play ranked all I seem to get is the same 3 players all the time. But when I look in my favourites I see that other players I have never played are also playing ranked. Yet I never get games with them. If its a connection issue with all these players that would make sense , however I doubt so many people in my region have a bad connection when alot of them I play CS with. Now since my region doesn't have many players, matched with me, I have only managed to get to 1900LP. Does having this ranking limit me from players who are lower ( I say lower because I have yet to fight anyone in my region with a higher rating than me ). I have opened all my ports for the game and for steam. I have had games against PC and PS4. So its not that. Anyone else having issues like this? Seems like I am missing a whole bunch of opponents in ranked. Edit: The last opponent I fought 18 times in a row, over 2 days. Revelant fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Mar 5, 2016 14:10
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Revelant posted:Here a question. From what I've read, this is a NAT issue. If you have a router from your ISP (like a technicolor), then it really doesn't get along with how SFV is currently pitting players together. Like, if you're in NAT 1, then you'll only get matched against people in NAT 1. It doesn't seem to matter for those technicolor's if you forward ports or not. Or it could just be your region has very few players. When I had the problem, matches took half an hour to find and I didn't get much of a variety of people. I just got a new router and SFV (and Fightcade) work fine now.
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Well that sucks, I just bought a new router, and cant shell out for another one. Edit: Just an update I tried a friends router and even changed location and I still get pitted against one player when there is other playing ranked. So I am not sure its a router issue. Revelant fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Mar 5, 2016 15:38
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Goodpart posted:What Cat Machine said works. How do you triple tap?
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Mar 5, 2016 15:59
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I like sfv
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fozzy fosbourne posted:How do you triple tap?
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Mar 5, 2016 16:19
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Who here is going to defend Necalli being able to just press st.LP and anti-air literally everything including crossups 100% of the time at any range.
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Mar 5, 2016 16:23
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Dhalsim's seems better
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They're both really dumb.
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Mar 5, 2016 16:35
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Maybe they'll patch the jab hitboxes someday
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Mar 5, 2016 16:36
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Maybe it's Woshige's PTSD coping mechanism from Elphelt's hitboxes
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:Who here is going to defend Necalli being able to just press st.LP and anti-air literally everything including crossups 100% of the time at any range. Only the strongest of warriors can defeat necalli.
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Mar 5, 2016 17:04
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fozzy fosbourne posted:Dhalsim's seems better dhalsims cool karate chop is more justified to be awesome than necalli's retard caveman swipe
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Yorkshire Tea posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkWU-WDbXKk Went through the same exact thing with Karin cr.MP st.MP. I just practiced for 15 minutes a day. After 4-5 days I could do it in training every time, after another week I can do it in a match every time. Just practice.
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So if Laura lands her elbow charge thing, what can I do to avoid eating a command grab that isn't churn out DP?
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Fellblade posted:So if Laura lands her elbow charge thing, what can I do to avoid eating a command grab than isn't churn out DP? Jump
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I swear I held up during it and just stuck to the ground and got grabbed every time. I need a how to fight Laura video apparently.
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Mar 5, 2016 18:12
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Fellblade posted:So if Laura lands her elbow charge thing, what can I do to avoid eating a command grab that isn't churn out DP? Mash jab. She's at +2 after the elbow and command grab is 6 frames. So if you mash a three frame jab you'll get her.
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Mar 5, 2016 18:27
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Mash jab. edit: you meant on hit, i'm dumb
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A lot of characters have really good anti air normals in this game. I'm mainly playing Gief atm, and his s.lp is a wall. It's nice because after you aa with it, you get free meaty pressure afterwards since they are recovering for a bit in the air.
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Chun's st.lk is the same thing, it's quick but it's an enormous hitbox out in front of her face. Chun's dash is fast enough too that you can usually get a dash-under mixup after.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Mash jab. I played some guy for about 20 matches (and lost all but like 2) but this was the conclusion I came to in the end. It's really hard being on the bronze/silver cusp and then playing sets against people who know how to play with characters you've just never seen played correctly. I've started keeping notes of the things I learn in each match up to hopefully not forget things after dumbing down for ranked, it seems to help me so I'd recommend others do the same.
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The problem is that Chun's stLK is actually designed to be an anti-air. Other stuff in this game anti-airs just by virtue of jumpins being loving garbage. Totally diminishes the purpose of AA moves if you can just do whatever and have a decent shot of swatting the other guy out of the air.
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Goodpart posted:The problem is that Chun's stLK is actually designed to be an anti-air. Other stuff in this game anti-airs just by virtue of jumpins being loving garbage. Are you even playing this game? If not, why are you wasting your time in this thread? If so, why don't you play something you enjoy more?
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Mar 5, 2016 19:18
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Yes - right up until I have to play against a Bison, because I want to see the game improve to the point where I actually enjoy it, and I do: play Rocket League. In that order.
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Mar 5, 2016 19:23
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Are you a cop? Because you have to tell me if youre a cop
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Fereydun posted:bring on the kumite you loving cowards i am the eternal champion of the only tournament this thread has had I literally can't not hear "pootie tang".
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Are you a cop? Because you have to tell me if youre a cop i am the fun police and everyone who says anything bad about this game is under arrest for antifun to the third degree send them to the lockup boys
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this is unrelated to anything but i just have to write it down before i forget so whenever people wonder what character they should bring back: its ruby heart
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Ixiggle posted:Only the strongest of warriors can defeat necalli. Devour our our your jumpins
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Sade posted:Are you even playing this game? If not, why are you wasting your time in this thread? If so, why don't you play something you enjoy more? lmao
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dangerdoom volvo posted:this is unrelated to anything but i just have to write it down before i forget so whenever people wonder what character they should bring back: its ruby heart Capcom should add SonSon III, Ruby Heart and Ingrid to SF5, IMO.
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Goodpart posted:The problem is that Chun's stLK is actually designed to be an anti-air. Other stuff in this game anti-airs just by virtue of jumpins being loving garbage. I like the current balance of anti airs vs jump ins. They took away the universal options of invincible back dash, and focus attacks. So now you are forced to anti air or eat the pressure. The light button anti airs do very little damage, and reverse the pressure. That's a fair price to pay for the big fat jump in combo your opponent was attempting.
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Wasn't everyone complaining anti-airs were bad before? Now jumps are bad?
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Sade posted:Are you even playing this game? If not, why are you wasting your time in this thread? If so, why don't you play something you enjoy more? [unreal tournament announcer voice] M - M - M - M - MICRO WALK
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Jmcrofts posted:Wasn't everyone complaining anti-airs were bad before? Now jumps are bad? both of these things are true because only insane people expect mashable jabs to be strong anti airs in sf
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You people like kof right? then stop whining!!!!
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darealkooky posted:both of these things are true because only insane people expect mashable jabs to be strong anti airs in sf Worked pretty well in 3s
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