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IBO merch for those uninterested in model kits
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Where can I find these trinkets?
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Mar 5, 2016 22:02
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https://www.hlj.com/product/BANN05753/Gun
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Mar 5, 2016 22:07
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I've completely forgotten about atra's wristband lol
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Mar 6, 2016 01:37
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"Oh, we rescued Carta, uh, somehow" is an absurdly unsatisfying way to handle that. It's just all kinds of lazy. That said the scene with Mika and Orga was unnerving as poo poo. I get it was Mika encouraging Orga but the mere fact that is how he encourages Orga really emphasizes how batshit he is. I also like that they're not afraid to frame it as a bad thing. Orga gives his big speech but it's undercut by Merribit telling him that's the wrong way to handle it and her being told she's right but they won't listen. They really have to go to Season 2 at this point though. I just can't see how anything can be satisfactorily resolved in 2-3 episodes.
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Mar 6, 2016 12:36
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McGillis: "There's probably an informant within us."  I really want to know what his game is, considering he's deliberately playing Gaelio off against Tekkadan despite supporting Tekkadan. I'd also like to know his dad's actual motivation for wanting what he wants. e; Mika: "Hey, Orga, how many should I kill?" 
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Mar 6, 2016 13:43
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Lemon-Lime posted:McGillis: "There's probably an informant within us." Daddy just wants to secure his power-base as top dog of Gjallarhorn. McGillis, I believe, is just taking advantage of a win-win situation, ensuring that whoever wins out of Gaelio or Tekkadan will be willing and able to reform Gjallarhorn as he wants. Getting Gaelio on-board with using cybernetics is an important part of that - we've seen from Nadi and Ein's examples that it's an important piece of medical technology that Gjallarhorn are suppressing and stigmatising for their own selfish ends.
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Mar 6, 2016 13:56
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Darth Walrus posted:Daddy just wants to secure his power-base as top dog of Gjallarhorn. All we know is that he wants to secure his position. We don't know why. The why is the important part, which is why I am interested in knowing it.
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Mar 6, 2016 14:03
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We really need a season 2, it feels like they've been setting the stage for the manipulators to take the stage. Kudelia as a manipulator of change, Papa Iznario manipulating to maintain the status quo, and McGillis working as many angles as he can to reform Gjallarhorn and perhaps make it what it once was. All the while Tekkadan sparks the flames.
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Mar 6, 2016 14:07
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Logicblade posted:We really need a season 2, it feels like they've been setting the stage for the manipulators to take the stage. Kudelia as a manipulator of change, Papa Iznario manipulating to maintain the status quo, and McGillis working as many angles as he can to reform Gjallarhorn and perhaps make it what it once was. All the while Tekkadan sparks the flames. And Nobliss as the malevolent presence in the background. Seriously, the guy has 'main villain' written all over him.
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Mar 6, 2016 14:09
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ImpAtom posted:That said the scene with Mika and Orga was unnerving as poo poo. I get it was Mika encouraging Orga but the mere fact that is how he encourages Orga really emphasizes how batshit he is. I also like that they're not afraid to frame it as a bad thing. Orga gives his big speech but it's undercut by Merribit telling him that's the wrong way to handle it and her being told she's right but they won't listen. I think the moral of the story is: if you don't want a bunch of kids to burn down your organisation and wreck the status quo, then don't force them into such a position through economic exploitation and death squads. Like Tekkadan aren't fundamentally bad people, they just don't have as much agency as they think they do, and all their murderous behaviour is a product of their environment. As too is willingness to re-enter the cycle of violence.
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Mar 6, 2016 14:13
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I'm fairly forgiving of this show because the writing tends to feel natural and organic but Carta somehow being rescued offscreen because the plot demanded she survived was by far the single most  writing in this show so far.We got more of Mika and Orga as the most disturbing blood brothers ever and the show really needed this. If IBO can keep up the quality of what it is really good at and minimize its flaws, I can believe that a second season will be good. Darth Walrus posted:And Nobliss as the malevolent presence in the background. Seriously, the guy has 'main villain' written all over him. And yet cannot be defeated in a mobile suit battle, but must be defeated with political and economic reforms. I fully expect someone will assassinate him after he's been weakened enough a la Gihren or Kycillia, but if the show locks him up behind bars instead then I will be immensely satisfied.
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Mar 6, 2016 16:05
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GimmickMan posted:I'm fairly forgiving of this show because the writing tends to feel natural and organic but Carta somehow being rescued offscreen because the plot demanded she survived was by far the single most Yeah. I was really looking forward to Mika flipping out and slowly squeezing her to death with the Barbatos or something, instead of that copout.
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Mar 6, 2016 16:15
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Those blonde guys that bit it were all probably Carta's Biscuit.
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Mar 6, 2016 17:01
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Lemon-Lime posted:Yeah. I was really looking forward to Mika flipping out and slowly squeezing her to death with the Barbatos or something, instead of that copout. While it certainly was a copout, I think it may have hurt the impact of the rest of the episode if they hadn't done it. The scene with Orga was way creepier because we've seen relatively little of Mika's dark side recently, and messily butchering Carta would have undermined that. Still doesn't excuse them writing themselves into a corner like that.
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Mar 6, 2016 17:03
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Lemon-Lime posted:All we know is that he wants to secure his position. We don't know why. The why is the important part, which is why I am interested in knowing it. I think he represents the current, corrupt Gjallarhorn. So securing his position is for the sake of securing his position. maintaining power for the sake of maintaining power
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Mar 6, 2016 17:29
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Honestly, though, they hadn't written themselves into a corner. They just neglected to take a good option. We saw the whole of Tekkadan freeze up over Biscuit's death and Orga's injury, so rather than footage of Carta's squadron after they'd got away, we could have seen them dragging their commander off while their enemies were paralysed. One thing I was thinking about with Orga and Mika's confrontation, though - there's been a lot of 'holy poo poo Mika is psychotic' reactions, but I felt it might have been more about his seeking validation. We've already seen how the ghastly stuff he does affects him far more than he likes to let on, and he seems to justify it as necessary to Orga's plans. If Orga stops, if he can't find some salvation for them all at the end of it, then Mika's made himself/been made into a monster for nothing, and he can no longer justify how he lives his life.
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Mar 6, 2016 17:38
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I feel like those two Carta soldiers throwing a flashbang or something is missing from the airing. Her escaping isn't the problem, it's the clearly missing transition from being on the ground to flying on water. Maybe added to the blu-ray?
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Mar 6, 2016 17:41
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Mar 6, 2016 19:40
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Mo_Steel posted:Ep 22: Weirdly I've seen people arguing that as an uplifting and heroic moment which I just don't get. I mean it has a literal ominous thunderstrike and they're both drawn to look batshit insane.
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Mar 6, 2016 20:18
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Mika only grabbed the head unit, then brutally flipped and drove the entire mech into the ground in the last episode, even if he had squished it would have only crushed the sensor array.
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Mar 6, 2016 20:20
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I thought Carta living was better because her dying would have been a victory in her eyes and her future actions being tinged in revenge is cooler.
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Mar 6, 2016 20:24
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Is anyone else having a problem getting the new episode to play on Daisuke? It seems to just buffer forever.
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Mar 6, 2016 21:11
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I had to refresh a couple times. Daisuke is a bad player.
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Mar 6, 2016 21:18
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Tae posted:I feel like those two Carta soldiers throwing a flashbang or something is missing from the airing. Her escaping isn't the problem, it's the clearly missing transition from being on the ground to flying on water. ImpAtom posted:Weirdly I've seen people arguing that as an uplifting and heroic moment which I just don't get. I mean it has a literal ominous thunderstrike and they're both drawn to look batshit insane. from Mika at the end of the preview ain't helping things either. Or it could just be leading up to something else like McGillis going on a backstabbing spree.
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Mar 6, 2016 21:19
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is anyone else having a problem getting the new episode to play on Daisuke? It seems to just buffer forever. In my case, I tried watching on Hulu, only to find that the subs weren't there. With closed captions set to "on", mind you. Otherwise, I agree that they really needed a shot of Carta's subordinate dragging her suit away from a stunned Mika. Very much liked Kudelia's show of competence. Vaguely amused that "McGillis" is his first name. Definitely hoping this gets a second season. There's just no way I can think of a satisfying ending they can pull together in the next few episodes, especially when it feels more like Tekkadan finishing their mission will be the catalyst that kicks off the war that's been brewing since the first episode.
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Mar 6, 2016 21:27
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Mar 6, 2016 22:25
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Presumably either the next or after episode will be Edmonton's anime debut. I can't believe they chose the lame city I live in for their fictional sci-fi nation capitol rather than almost any other large city in Canada or Russia. Praying to see Barbatos donning an Oilers jersey and shoulder checking another Gundam into the now ancient Rogers Place arena. 
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Mar 6, 2016 22:48
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Megafunk posted:Presumably either the next or after episode will be Edmonton's anime debut. I can't believe they chose the lame city I live in for their fictional sci-fi nation capitol rather than almost any other large city in Canada or Russia. Praying to see Barbatos donning an Oilers jersey and shoulder checking another Gundam into the now ancient Rogers Place arena. Who should I kill eh?
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Mar 6, 2016 23:01
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Never thought that Mika would be into revenge so all those people cheering Carta getting gatored seem weird to me. After all, that isn't Biscuit any more.
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Mar 6, 2016 23:39
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Dangerous Person posted:I had to refresh a couple times. Daisuke is a bad player. If anyone else is having this, I disabled AdBlocker and it worked. Possibly because it was previously ads for other shows and anime apps which probably came from Daisuke servers, today it was an external one for Plants vs Zombies.
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Mar 7, 2016 00:22
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Yeah I still can't get over loving Edmonton being the city Arbrau holds it's seat of government. If you're gonna do somewhere in western canada, Vancouver or Calgary would have been the way to go. >_>
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Mar 7, 2016 00:31
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Logicblade posted:Yeah I still can't get over loving Edmonton being the city Arbrau holds it's seat of government. If you're gonna do somewhere in western canada, Vancouver or Calgary would have been the way to go. >_> The Calamity War was a hell of a thing.
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Mar 7, 2016 00:38
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This was a good episode for the Tekkadan side of things, especially Kudelia showing some strategy, but I was already tired of Ein and now that he's going to become the new super pilot for the bad guys I'm going to be even more sick of him.
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Mar 7, 2016 00:44
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I caught a glimpse of the world map during Kudelia's plan. The chunk off Australia... is this happening in some undisclosed future UC location? I thought it was a parallel story.
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Mar 7, 2016 00:57
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Ka0 posted:I caught a glimpse of the world map during Kudelia's plan. The chunk off Australia... is this happening in some undisclosed future UC location? I thought it was a parallel story. The official stance is every Gundam happens in some order but a long long time apart and it never matters, probably just a cute reference to that idea.
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Mar 7, 2016 00:59
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Overlord K posted:This was a good episode for the Tekkadan side of things, especially Kudelia showing some strategy, but I was already tired of Ein and now that he's going to become the new super pilot for the bad guys I'm going to be even more sick of him. I do think that his subplot does represent an interesting spin on the usual Gundam Cyber-Newtype story, though. Normally, it's the franchise's bluntest expression of 'adults are the enemy', an innocent child getting turned into the tormented, brainwashed heart of a giant death-machine by cold-hearted warmongers. Here, there's... maybe a little of that, but it's mostly about Ein's friend and commander trying to give him a chance to better his lot and overcome his organisation's prejudices, becoming a respected, valued hero. It's about increasing his agency, not removing it. Another interesting little detail is that Carta seems to be attacking Tekkadan solo in the Episode 23 PV, and her Graze Ritter is carrying a red banner. In other words, she's challenging them to a duel in the old ways of the Calamity War, exactly like Crank did in Episode 3. If the Einborg manages to come online in time and save the heir of the mightiest family in the Seven Stars from exactly the same fate that befell his beloved mentor, then that's... a pretty big deal. Carta might even end up reconsidering her blonds-only policy. 
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Mar 7, 2016 01:21
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BizarroAzrael posted:If anyone else is having this, I disabled AdBlocker and it worked. Possibly because it was previously ads for other shows and anime apps which probably came from Daisuke servers, today it was an external one for Plants vs Zombies.
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Mar 7, 2016 01:24
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genericnick posted:Never thought that Mika would be into revenge so all those people cheering Carta getting gatored seem weird to me. After all, that isn't Biscuit any more. The last time Mika thought one of Biscuit's family members was injured he almost choked a guy to death just for being nearby. Mika is absolutely pro-revenge.
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Ka0 posted:I caught a glimpse of the world map during Kudelia's plan. The chunk off Australia... is this happening in some undisclosed future UC location? I thought it was a parallel story. It's a separate timeline, officially. The chunk missing from Australia is more of an Easter egg than anything else, the Calamity war isn't meant to be the OYW.
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