MisterAlex posted:

Heh heh. Yeah. Haven't there been more Vitas sold than Wii Us?

CrashCat posted:

And despite that most of the good Wii U games still are rarely on sale new and barely discounted used

Policenaut posted:

I bet John Cena would love the Vita.

Policenaut posted:

I bet John Cena would love the Vita.

kirbysuperstar posted:

95% of the good Wuu games are first party, which is always a problem with Nintendo. gently caress, I still see full priced copies of Mario 64 DS out here.

Improbable Lobster posted:

Pretty sure that isn't the case, at least globally. Maaaaaybe in Japan. Maybe.

RanKizama posted:

Looks like the only place that the WiiU outperformed the Vita was the US.

corn in the bible posted:

that chart seems suspect, since i am fairly sure that at the very least more than 0 3DOs were sold

ImpAtom posted:

Please don't quote VGChartz, they literally make up their numbers.

RanKizama posted:

To where would you look for a more accurate chart then?

Help Im Alive posted:

Please live life, enjoy video games and ignore sales charts

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Your heart

RanKizama posted:

To where would you look for a more accurate chart then?

RanKizama posted:

To where would you look for a more accurate chart then?

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Neogaf

Mithaldu posted:

I'd love to use that "DB" linked there to make some graphs of the history of vita sales, but OpenOffice has been loading that 32mb xlsx for 5 minutes now and doesn't seem to show any signs of finishing anytime soon.

Dehry posted:

VGChartz uses a bunch of funny math to guess how many are sold. The Japanese sales are tracked a bit better by Famitsu and Media Create since retailers will report what they sold, but even then it's only good for trends. The US version (NPD) isn't public and people just leak numbers on to Neogaf/VGChartz forums. Since there's a lot more online shopping and digital purchasing done in the west, the numbers can be skewed. Persona 4 DAN was 10k, the same as Senran Kagura Deep Crimson and Despair Girls the last time I was curious about the numbers. It might actually be true though considering I've seen all those game's special launch versions on sale at deep discounts already.

Dehry posted:

Help Im Alive posted:

This is more of general PS Store question but if you buy avatars on a US account can you use them on an EU account? It feels like we never get half of the avatars on the US store

Mithaldu posted:

Good thing that lost song sold well enough to merit a third game with proper gameplay.

Also, threw together some hardware graphs. If these trends are any indication, the Vita seems to be well and healthy in Japan.

The Home Consoles


The Handhelds


The Epic Battle Between PS Vita and Wii U


Spreadsheet: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10190786/jp_console_sales_history.ods

Mithaldu posted:

Almost entirely sure you can't, since there's no way to link accounts anyhow.

Help Im Alive posted:

This is more of general PS Store question but if you buy avatars on a US account can you use them on an EU account? It feels like we never get half of the avatars on the US store

Help Im Alive posted:

Please live life, enjoy video games and ignore sales charts

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Is kind of depressing to see the Xbox/Bone graphs

thorsilver posted:

I still fail to see how the market normalising after a one-gen-only surge of casual gamers who, not surprisingly, have now stopped buying dedicated devices and buy poo poo games for phones instead, is some sort of massive failure on Nintendo's part. I mean, you even seem to acknowledge that phenomenon in your second post.

At best, Nintendo's failure was setting ludicrously high expectations after a phenomenally successful effort at appealing to a broader gaming demographic. Now that any smart device has thousands of simple games that are nonetheless sufficient to waste time while waiting in queues, that tactic will probably never work again.

My basic point is I think it's a damaging attitude to have to say 'THE 3DS IS AN UNQUALIFIED FAILURE' when it's been a source of a lot of fantastic gaming for millions of people for the last five years, and they've continued selling millions of copies of games despite lovely screens or whatever because the games are legitimately really good. I mean yeah obviously they can't stick with 240p screens with NX but I very much doubt they will, and they've been devoting resources to NX development for some time now so we may have some interesting times ahead. Nintendo may be weird and backwards at times but they're drat good at making video games.

So basically I think implying Nintendo might as well have given up on the 3DS because 'yeah look how that turned out' is kinda hosed up because gaming would've been a lot shittier in recent history without it. And the Nintendo doomsaying is just tired at this point, that old bollocks comes out at the end of every generation of consoles. More importantly if they'd given up we'd have never gotten Kirby Triple Trouble which would've been a loving war crime IMO.

Now, the Wii U? Yeah OK that was a failure.

In short,


Also this is the Vita thread, why am I even talking about this? I'm sorry Vita friends. I shall go preorder Estival Versus in penance.

Just kidding! Preordered it weeks ago~

Stux posted:

its not normalising though, the 3ds is on track to be their worst selling handheld since the virtual boy. the DS/PSP gen wasnt a casual boom, it was the result of an upward trend in handheld sales.

much like with moving from the wii to the wii u nintendo have absolutely failed at capitalising on their successes and the rumour that the NX is going to be a combo console is ridiculous if true. consumers have already abandoned handhelds now as nintendo and sony both failed to provide an incentive for owning one, so going forward nintendo cannot rely on that as they have for most of their history, and their home console business is an absolute dumpster fire. theyve missed the boat on competing with phones now and they do not have the ability to succeed in the home console market as they are blissfully unaware of how to sell things. the nintendo doomsdaying is pretty justified at this point as its difficult to see how a company which has been glacially slow to adjust to a changing market will now adapt now their main market has collapsed over night. unless the NX is a home console which is as powerful or more so than the ps4, and has widespread support from third parties including the big multi platform titles, and its handheld component is competitive technically with the power offered by modern phones, then no one is going to buy it outside of hardcore nintendo fans, much like the wii u. except this time their handheld will be tied to it as well.

corn in the bible posted:

oh, word?

Stux posted:

its not normalising though, the 3ds is on track to be their worst selling handheld since the virtual boy. the DS/PSP gen wasnt a casual boom, it was the result of an upward trend in handheld sales.

much like with moving from the wii to the wii u nintendo have absolutely failed at capitalising on their successes and the rumour that the NX is going to be a combo console is ridiculous if true. consumers have already abandoned handhelds now as nintendo and sony both failed to provide an incentive for owning one, so going forward nintendo cannot rely on that as they have for most of their history, and their home console business is an absolute dumpster fire. theyve missed the boat on competing with phones now and they do not have the ability to succeed in the home console market as they are blissfully unaware of how to sell things. the nintendo doomsdaying is pretty justified at this point as its difficult to see how a company which has been glacially slow to adjust to a changing market will now adapt now their main market has collapsed over night. unless the NX is a home console which is as powerful or more so than the ps4, and has widespread support from third parties including the big multi platform titles, and its handheld component is competitive technically with the power offered by modern phones, then no one is going to buy it outside of hardcore nintendo fans, much like the wii u. except this time their handheld will be tied to it as well.

Real hurthling! posted:

Nintendo has enough fans to get by with cheap hardware and a few premium games a year.

If the nx is a powerhouse sold at a loss It might kill them

zenintrude posted:

Picked up Unit 13 to scratch a cover shooter itch. I'm enjoying it, but not thoroughly... the narrowly defined mission objectives (and in turn, gameplay) feel too constrictive. Is there another game I should be investigating?

I've played Uncharted, Killzone, Borderlands, and Resistance.