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Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Armyman25 posted:

Dude, saying "that's classified" as an explanation why you can't back up your claims is pretty weak poo poo.

No one here is backing up their claims, because it's impossible.

The idea his speculation can only be refuted by hard facts is ridiculous.

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



This is great, it'll give me something to do in 2020 like I have in 2016 with Obama's America

spoiler alert: it's batting 0.000 so far

ohgodwhat
Aug 6, 2005

Jarmak posted:

No one here is backing up their claims, because it's impossible.

The idea his speculation can only be refuted by hard facts is ridiculous.

I'm very surprised you're making any claims at all given that you supposedly have privileged knowledge. But I guess there's no issue if you don't just outright state US strategies, instead just hinting at them and dismissing any potential alternatives?

Kobayashi
Aug 13, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

ufarn posted:

This is so far out, it becomes straight-up comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

Literally lol'd at this, amazing.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


ufarn posted:

This is so far out, it becomes straight-up comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

That was weeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaak. Come on Dsouza, put some oomph into it. I know you're not LaFontaine but at least show some interest, you're putting me to sleep here.
Or is this just like a shambling corpse he put out because people threw a money bag at him?

The Larch
Jan 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Personally, I think the reason that the U.S. blew that kid up with a missile is that they were making a burnt sacrifice to Moloch in exchange for wealth and success.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

ohgodwhat posted:

I'm very surprised you're making any claims at all given that you supposedly have privileged knowledge. But I guess there's no issue if you don't just outright state US strategies, instead just hinting at them and dismissing any potential alternatives?

Think of it as how all media networks bring in retired military experts to discuss - it's likely that on any particular subject, that military expert has had exceedingly limited experience with it unless the topic is directly in their wheel house. However, all of these experts have likely served on staffs, been Chiefs of Staff, or been a General/Flag Officer themselves and are more than qualified to discuss the processes. If you're O6 or higher, you almost certainly have held a Top Secret clearance. Stating you've had a level of access isn't exactly frowned upon, stating the details of what and how you did things is frowned upon or worse. For instance, my resume has my clearance level, billet, and generalities of what my billet entailed and in the case of my clearance level, it is explicitly allowed and discussed when being read out.

In this discussion, there is nothing Jarmac can provide as hard evidence to counter because that'd be illegal (if he even had access to it). However, he is fully qualified to say, "That is not how the process works" and be totally right. It's all besides the point because the initial claim lacks any hard evidence and is based in speculation, as Jarmac noted. Why is Unzip and Attack so sure that one baseless claim is so accurate while wholly discounting another counter claim? What experience has Unzip and Attack had, that qualifies him to be so certain?

It's fine to disagree because you'd have to take Jarmac's reasoning as an article of faith, but then that opens a whole can of worms with respect to this forum, our discussions, and what we can and cannot reasonably believe to be a poster's expert opinion.

Boon fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Mar 7, 2016

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

ufarn posted:

This is so far out, it becomes straight-up comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

That from-behind shot of a skinny person with a huge black afro sitting at the oval office. lol

hangedman1984
Jul 25, 2012

ufarn posted:

This is so far out, it becomes straight-up comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

...

...

...

...BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAWHAT THE gently caress?!

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
"Donald Trump is a Democratic operative for Clinton, I'm going to have to vote for Cruz because Trump is loving Hitler." - my Republican parents.

Augustus
Oct 10, 2004

God damn it.
Wow, this is such laughably untrue propaganda I can't even fathom it.

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.

ufarn posted:

This is so far out, it becomes straight-up comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

I straight-up thought there'd be an SNL logo after it or something.

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.

Hollismason posted:

"Donald Trump is a Democratic operative for Clinton, I'm going to have to vote for Cruz because Trump is loving Hitler." - my Republican parents.

Hollismason's parents: Only half right. (Unless Clinton is a loving genius, which I do not believe.)

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

Rodenthar Drothman posted:

Hollismason's parents: Only half right. (Unless Clinton is a loving genius, which I do not believe.)

Yeah, they're pretty convinced he is a Democratic secret operative " It was loving horrifice" was their response to the Republican debates.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


"Horrifice" is an awesome word and describes Trump's puckered anus of a mouth perfectly.

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


ufarn posted:

This is so far out, it becomes straight-up comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

"In theaters, July 2016" I guess 'directors private screening room' counts as a theater?

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Hollismason posted:

"Donald Trump is a Democratic operative for Clinton, I'm going to have to vote for Cruz because Trump is loving Hitler." - my Republican parents.

I think this election has caused a buffer overrun, they've got their words randomly in memory where they shouldn't be :ohdear:

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


ufarn posted:

This is so far out, it becomes straight-up comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/706623107906166785

bij
Feb 24, 2007

The judge in Dinesh's felony case should have made our favorite little adulterer and felon's freedom contingent on never producing any sort of media ever again. It would have been a valuable public service.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




Doesn't the argument that "racist Democrats just became Republicans!" kind of peter out a bit as a repudiation when it's followed up with, "so be sure to vote Republican!"

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

ufarn posted:

This is so far out, it becomes straight-up comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

This is like pornography for the deliberately misinformed.

Is D'souza purely a grifter squeezing the rubes for more cash or is he actually this stupid? It's like a right-wing relative's unsourced and poorly spelled Facebook argument stretched into a feature length film.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I know the standard to prove slander for a politician is loving massive but this has gotta come close right?

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


Rhesus Pieces posted:

This is like pornography for the deliberately misinformed.

Is D'souza purely a grifter squeezing the rubes for more cash or is he actually this stupid? It's like a right-wing relative's unsourced and poorly spelled Facebook argument stretched into a feature length film.

D'souza is Poe's Law personified.

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games
He's gonna feel pretty silly when the Trump Justice Squads mistake him for a noncitizen.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

I think D'Souza's definitely a grifter. He spends too much effort hitting those high notes perfectly.

He's also got that conman chutzpah. The stuff he went to jail for is one example. Another is getting engaged, while still married, and also while president of a conservative evangelical college.

/Sidenote that 2016: Obama's America is one of the best-grossing documentaries of all time.

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

Epic High Five posted:

Doesn't the argument that "racist Democrats just became Republicans!" kind of peter out a bit as a repudiation when it's followed up with, "so be sure to vote Republican!"

He's suggesting that the racist Democrats remained Democrats. Just like noted racist Strom Thurmond, who remained a Democrat his entire life.

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

/Sidenote that 2016: Obama's America is one of the best-grossing documentaries of all time.

Isn't that because Super PACs bought up a shitload of copies and mailed them out in an effort to sway voters?

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

https://twitter.com/onetoughnerd/status/706646480648536065

Goddamn, the absolute gall of this man is unbelievable.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Rhesus Pieces posted:

https://twitter.com/onetoughnerd/status/706646480648536065

Goddamn, the absolute gall of this man is unbelievable.

Proof government can't function and must be abolished. :downs:

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
https://twitter.com/onetoughnerd/status/706646480648536065


Ah yes, a failure at all levels, but especially at your level

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Rhesus Pieces posted:

https://twitter.com/onetoughnerd/status/706646480648536065

Goddamn, the absolute gall of this man is unbelievable.

Rick Snyder is the sacrificial lamb on the pedestal of Conservatism.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

Full Battle Rattle posted:

https://twitter.com/onetoughnerd/status/706646480648536065


Ah yes, a failure at all levels, but especially at your level

I actually heard a guy arguing to his friends outside the hotel I was at last night that the Flint, MI lead incident was a failure at all levels including the EPA so people need to lay off Rick Snyder and stop attacking him.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
My favorite Flint-related blame shifting is blaming the homeowners for not updating their plumbing/voting for millages to upgrade the city's infrastructure :wtc:

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret

Teddybear posted:

Nobody really gave a poo poo until Rock Hudson died of it. He was a big turning point to get things going, but I don't think it was really until Magic Johnson announced his diagnosis that the tide really turned.

gently caress Reagan, still, though.

And Isaac Asimov, because he got it through a blood transfusion and that meant ANYONE could get it. Also the little kid. Ryan White.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Isaac Asimov spent his life exploring new dark spaces. Him getting HIV is pretty much expected. Plus, he was going to expose the Moon hoax so the government had to kill him.

Ryan White was a real poster child for HIV acceptance.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
People forget that Magic Johnson announced in 1991 that he had HIV which was a huge loving deal. So yea kind of a combination of Ryan White and that to a degree. I mean it went a long way because he was a well known athlete etc.. who was living with HIV.

Shbobdb posted:

Isaac Asimov spent his life exploring new dark spaces. Him getting HIV is pretty much expected. Plus, he was going to expose the Moon hoax so the government had to kill him.

Ryan White was a real poster child for HIV acceptance.

What the gently caress are you talking about exploring Dark Places, that was most certainly not in Asimov's character. Such a weird loving statement. If had been like Delaney or someone yeah maybe but still.

Hollismason fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Mar 7, 2016

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

This is like pornography for the deliberately misinformed.

Is D'souza purely a grifter squeezing the rubes for more cash or is he actually this stupid? It's like a right-wing relative's unsourced and poorly spelled Facebook argument stretched into a feature length film.

its probably a mix. He probably is conservative but who knows how much he believes. he is a retard if he is using the "all bad things that happend ever are the liberal/democrats fault" and genuinely believes it.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Didn't he try to convince the judge not to send him to prison because it would be too inconvenient for him?

I'm pretty sure he's a loving loony

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Epic High Five posted:

Didn't he try to convince the judge not to send him to prison because it would be too inconvenient for him?

I'm pretty sure he's a loving loony

didnt he get his mistress to do illegal poo poo for him

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

My favorite Flint-related blame shifting is blaming the homeowners for not updating their plumbing/voting for millages to upgrade the city's infrastructure :wtc:

My favorite Flint-related fact is that residents were paying out the rear end for their poisonous water, the highest rates in the loving country:

quote:

"People [in Flint] were paying the highest rates in the country for water that was toxic," said Mary Grant, a lead author on the report. "It's an indictment of running water systems like a business instead of a public service."

A typical Flint household could expect an annual water bill of $864 a year. That's more than twice as high as the state average. At the peak of the lead crisis Flint residents paid twice as much for water as people in New York City, more than three times as much as people in Detroit and seven times as much as Miami residents. Residential water in Flint was 10 times more expensive than water in Phoenix, Ariz., which is literally in the middle of a desert.

The fact that Snyder or these "Emergency Managers" haven't been strung up and Flint residents haven't rioted qualifies them for sainthood.

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Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May

Dapper_Swindler posted:

didnt he get his mistress to do illegal poo poo for him

Yeah after stating in his book that Obama's flawed views on morality came from his "serial philanderer" father. There are a lot of scumbag conservatives but he's probably the worst in my opinion.

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