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Rhyno posted:No I am genuinely curious if there's a backlash or anything. Like the wheelchair kid on Glee, didn't he get a poo poo ton of flack when people found out he wasn't actually crippled? no idea, i wasn't trying to be snarky just offering an idea to some of the people viciously attacking troposphere and others here
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Rhyno posted:No I am genuinely curious if there's a backlash or anything. Like the wheelchair kid on Glee, didn't he get a poo poo ton of flack when people found out he wasn't actually crippled? I know that the people who made The Danish Girl have caught a lot of flak for using Eddie Redmayne instead of an actual trans person. Wasn't helped by the fact that Redmayne got all over twitter sounding like the film was responsible for widespread interest in trans equality. Or that it came out the same year as Tangerine which was not only a movie about trans people but also managed to find multiple trans people to fill its roles.
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Rhyno posted:I am also curious, do LGBT fans get angry when the actor/actress playing the gay character is not gay in real life? LGBT in general? Definitely the preference is for transgender characters to be played by transgender actors at least. Beyond that, I think it's considered fine for straight actors to play gay characters as long as the actor in question isn't a shithead about it. I think the community enjoys gay actors and gay characters though, and the two together are a plus.
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Luvcow posted:i like identifying with characters that feel things like emotions and love no matter who their particular interest is but seriously i don't get why some people itt are having a hard time respectfully listening to the opinions of other people. If someone says they see something one way then maybe just nod your head and try to understand there are different perspectives in life. I'm pretending it takes place 200 years after the attack instead on 100 years and please no one tell me different.
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Rhyno posted:I am also curious, do LGBT fans get angry when the actor/actress playing the gay character is not gay in real life? Oh jesus christ
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The Iron Rose posted:Oh jesus christ Based on some of the discussions here and on social media I feel it is a valid question.
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Mar 7, 2016 18:07
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Yes, some do. It's not a single group with a hive mind.
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Mar 7, 2016 18:10
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Aphrodite posted:Yes, some do. It's not a single group with a hive mind. I never assumed as much. I guess as a straight white guy it's harder for me to wrap my head around it.
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not many actors are openly gay because it could ruin their careers so it's a bit of a silly point like just see how big of a deal it was for Ellen Page to come out. it's not very common.
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zoux posted:I'm pretending it takes place 200 years after the attack instead on 100 years and please no one tell me different. I'm guessing the 97 year time frame came from when they were still focusing on adapting the book, but before they threw it out to do their own thing. With regards to Lexa's death, I have to say I feel sorry for Murphy. He has been on the ground for about six months and so far he was: framed for Wells murder and almost hung captured by the grounders and used to spread disease in dropship camp had Raven try to offer him up to the grounders in place of Finn (deserved that one) went on Jaha's crazy voyage and almost got killed by a water monster locked up in isolation in a bunker for three months tortured by Titus for information and now he will be framed for Lexa's murder. If there is anyone who needs to join ALIE 1.0s City of Light, its Murphy.
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Plus there's a pretty distinct split between that LG and BT in lots of cases. Bisexuals and trans people get plenty of poo poo from some gays and lesbians too.
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Aphrodite posted:Plus there's a pretty distinct split between that LG and BT in lots of cases. Bisexuals and trans people get plenty of poo poo from some gays and lesbians too. I'm not trying to lump everyone into one group, I'm just using the existing terms.
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Boris Galerkin posted:100+ new posts over night I thought the episode leaked and you were all talking about it but no it's just a bunch of idiots in here. This thread is honestly hilarious right now.  Someone actually made this 
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WarLocke posted:This thread is honestly hilarious right now. Just wait till the flamingo community hears of this!
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zoux posted:I'm pretending it takes place 200 years after the attack instead on 100 years and please no one tell me different. 
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Those flamingos are gonna be so disappointed when they find out that Fear the Walking Dead is boring as hell.
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I watched one episode of Fear the Walking Dead when it came out and it wasn't interesting to me. That's my story.
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WarLocke posted:This thread is honestly hilarious right now. totally not lady boners though 
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I didn't know lady boners looked like flamingos, I have so many questions for my gyno now
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I watched one episode of Fear the Walking Dead when it came out and it wasn't interesting to me. That's my story.
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The Lexa thing aside I am really not digging this entire season as a whole. It seems like there are no characters to root for anymore. Maybe that's how the show always was, but it really feels like a ton of artificial drama/in-fighting for no reason and the only character motivations that make sense is the freaking AI that wants to conquer humanity.
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qbert posted:The Lexa thing aside I am really not digging this entire season as a whole. It seems like there are no characters to root for anymore. Maybe that's how the show always was, but it really feels like a ton of artificial drama/in-fighting for no reason and the only character motivations that make sense is the freaking AI that wants to conquer humanity. The 100 is an amazing show to binge, so maybe it's just that I'm watching it in a new way, but maybe it's just that the villain is too boring and abstract in this case; many characters feel like NPCs in a videogame more than independent characters who could replace Clarke as an interesting protagonist if need be. I also feel like Pike suffers from two-dimensionality, or at least a sincere lack of attention on the writers' part. Maybe it's that he's supposed to appeal to people's basic instincts that the writers won't bother dwelling on him and fleshing him out, but that makes him more of a force than a person. And it's not easy to follow President Dante who was a very well-rounded sorta-villain.
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I disagree, and deny that there was any chemistry between Clarke and the cardboard standee playing Lexa.
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qbert posted:The Lexa thing aside I am really not digging this entire season as a whole. It seems like there are no characters to root for anymore. Maybe that's how the show always was, but it really feels like a ton of artificial drama/in-fighting for no reason and the only character motivations that make sense is the freaking AI that wants to conquer humanity.
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I think the Pike situation was rushed because the show only had Lexa for a certain amount of episodes. They hurried the plot so they could get to this point before she was gone. Regrettable, but understandable.
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hollylolly posted:I think the Pike situation was rushed because the show only had Lexa for a certain amount of episodes. They hurried the plot so they could get to this point before she was gone. Regrettable, but understandable.
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ufarn posted:I also feel like Pike suffers from two-dimensionality, or at least a sincere lack of attention on the writers' part. Maybe it's that he's supposed to appeal to people's basic instincts that the writers won't bother dwelling on him and fleshing him out, but that makes him more of a force than a person. And it's not easy to follow President Dante who was a very well-rounded sorta-villain. I think Pike is the Chancellor most true to Skykru values and beliefs though. Skykru are a group of hardcore survivalists with all the focus, foresight, pragmatism and ingenuity of a colony of resource starved astronauts. It'd make sense that Pike and the others easily identify what some of Arkadia's long term problems are, such as the lack of food and defensible terrain, and be happy to do whatever it takes to achieve those goals. Like others have pointed out, Arkadia's current safety and security depended on the word of a single girl. The other grounders were happy to kill them all without a thought and unless Arkadia can secure their position in the world with force, it's just a matter of time before they get wiped out. The children might not have developed that mindset yet but the adults should definitely be willing Pike voters that just wanted to protect a future for their children and their children's children. The problem is that none of it really comes across and they've been all like, lol grounders aren't even people, let's kill then all!
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Kegslayer posted:I think Pike is the Chancellor most true to Skykru values and beliefs though.
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Kegslayer posted:The other grounders were happy to kill them all without a thought and unless Arkadia can secure their position in the world with force, it's just a matter of time before they get wiped out. Strictly speaking didn't the whole grounder/skykru war start due to the rockets the kids sent up to say they were ok? I seem to recall them managing to hit and destroy multiple grounder settlements, which is why the warband went on the march in the first place. If skykru would just stop murdering grounders this whole thing might just work out.
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Kegslayer posted:I think Pike is the Chancellor most true to Skykru values and beliefs though. Arkadia definitely should have moved into Mt Weather. gently caress the grounders. We took it, we are keeping it. Don't like it? Tough poo poo.
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WarLocke posted:This thread is honestly hilarious right now. Thats wrong, they are culturally appropraiting those flamingos. Its wrong! EDIT: also calling "Deus Ex AI"-esk ending as the end for series 3. Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Mar 7, 2016 |
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Azhais posted:Strictly speaking didn't the whole grounder/skykru war start due to the rockets the kids sent up to say they were ok? I seem to recall them managing to hit and destroy multiple grounder settlements, which is why the warband went on the march in the first place. The flare they sent up, after Bellamy broke the radio, to try and prevent the readjustment of the census on the Ark landed on a village and burned it down. They did spear Jasper before that, so I'd have called it even at that point.
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TyrantWD posted:The flare they sent up, after Bellamy broke the radio, to try and prevent the readjustment of the census on the Ark landed on a village and burned it down. They did spear Jasper before that, so I'd have called it even at that point. It was implied that by approaching Mt Weather that the "100" casued the grounders to attack them.
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The Pike stuff honestly sucks and Lexa's actress leaving sucks, but the City of Light plot, which I first thought would be the bad one, is more then making up for it. I like the new mythos. Also holy gently caress the Ark were just total dicks from second one, huh
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I mean not for nothing but the Polaris crew did a really poo poo job there. "Begin docking now or we will shoot you out of the sky". "Ok, just hold on a minute.". "...begin docking now or we will shoot you out of the sky.". "Yeah that's cool, just give us a minute.". "....no really, dock now or we are totally blowing you the hell up.". "Yeah I see where you are coming from, but also one more minute.". "Well, guess it's time to kill a bitch." "NO WAIT WE ARE TOTALLY GOING TO DOCK NOW!". It's like who cares if you think she has a humanity killing AI, you weren't going to resolve that in the next ten seconds anyway. And there is no way to convey that information that wouldn't terrify the rest of the stations either. They tell you to start docking, just start docking really slow. Buy time. They got stupid and preachy and they ate some missiles for it.
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The Pike stuff owns, the Lexa stuff was as boring as her acting was terrible. Crazy man Jaha remains great and his ghost in the machine buddy only makes it better. Wanna see him and Titus thrown down in a zealotry duel.
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TyrantWD posted:captured by the grounders and used to spread disease in dropship camp Don't forget, he was tortured during this one also!!!! Luv u murph, good luck next ep you'll need it
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Kegslayer posted:I think Pike is the Chancellor most true to Skykru values and beliefs though. Yeah, after seeing how the Ark got started and what they did to Polaris right out of the gate, Pike is pretty much being true to his heritage and upbringing. Arkers were also the people who forced Octavia's parents to make her live in the floorboards, floated people for whatevs, sent their own children to Earth to probably die, and did wacky poo poo like asphyxiate a huge percentage of their population. Sounds like Pike is on the Ark Program. Kane in particular seems to have evolved beyond that.
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