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Hey guys apparently Mike de Jong doesn't use email so there's nothing to FOI
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jm20 posted:Content lmao rebel reporter, gamer gate activist, SJW-hater, feminazi-fighter, libertarian super canidate lauren southern
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:04 |
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Even then, and I oppose her from every standpoint, I think dumping piss on her is kinda a bad precedent. Don't dump disgusting things on people in general. I'd be ok with a glitterbomb.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:07 |
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Kafka Esq. posted:Maybe it's time for a tabula rasa new thread, I can't even find the time to post the morning brief. I can do it, I figured you weren't posting it because there wasn't anything interesting.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:08 |
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I'd argue we wait til the end of session for this Parliament or at least until the budget drops. It's barely been 100 days.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:11 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:Even then, and I oppose her from every standpoint, I think dumping piss on her is kinda a bad precedent. Don't dump disgusting things on people in general. I'd be ok with a glitterbomb. This. That's really gross.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:12 |
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Protesting an event that didn't even take place and dumping piss on someone's head is exactly the kind of empty, self serving street theatre that keeps the left from accomplishing anything. We're hosed.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:15 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:Even then, and I oppose her from every standpoint, I think dumping piss on her is kinda a bad precedent. Don't dump disgusting things on people in general. I'd be ok with a glitterbomb. It's an awful thing to do to someone, but if it's going to happen it couldn't have happened to a better(worse) person.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:17 |
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I don't think anyone should have piss dumped on them. It is bad, and I really hope this is not a controversial opinion, but judging by this thread, it will be.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:17 |
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Helsing posted:Protesting an event that didn't even take place and dumping piss on someone's head is exactly the kind of empty, self serving street theatre that keeps the left from accomplishing anything.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:20 |
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DariusLikewise posted:It's an awful thing to do to someone, but if it's going to happen it couldn't have happened to a better(worse) person. Some idiots will think this was the greatest thing ever and they'll talk about it enthusiastically and encourage other people they know to dedicate energy and attention to this kind of idiocy, which may actually distract people from doing something more useful with their time. Meanwhile a bunch of other people will be turned off activism by this frathouse stunt or even pay more attention to the message of the person getting piss dumped on them. That person and her followers meanwhile will congratulate themselves on clearly having made waves and will likely be motivated to take further action. Insofar as this will have any impact (fortunately it won't) it will be a negative one.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:22 |
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Helsing posted:Protesting an event that didn't even take place and dumping piss on someone's head is exactly the kind of empty, self serving street theatre that keeps the left from accomplishing anything.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:22 |
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Helsing posted:Protesting an event that didn't even take place and dumping piss on someone's head is exactly the kind of empty, self serving street theatre that keeps the left from accomplishing anything. Seriously though as much as I'd like to agree, I think most people can recognise this as the act of a nutjob rather than representative of a broad political group. The left has enough problems without claiming somebody pouring piss on someone else is one of them.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:30 |
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Helsing posted:Some idiots will think this was the greatest thing ever and they'll talk about it enthusiastically and encourage other people they know to dedicate energy and attention to this kind of idiocy, which may actually distract people from doing something more useful with their time. Meanwhile a bunch of other people will be turned off activism by this frathouse stunt or even pay more attention to the message of the person getting piss dumped on them. That person and her followers meanwhile will congratulate themselves on clearly having made waves and will likely be motivated to take further action. This is good because these people are idiots and shouldn't be involved in promoting the left's message anyway. They can out themselves as idiots and we can all safely ignore them.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:38 |
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Helsing posted:Protesting an event that didn't even take place and dumping piss on someone's head is exactly the kind of empty, self serving street theatre that keeps the left from accomplishing anything. You should tell your friends at Leftist HQ that their piss-throwing strategy is a non-starter.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:41 |
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Jordan7hm posted:Hey it's just like when that old man yelled at commies during the election and everyone in this thread agreed that the actions of one deranged individual don't reflect the entire righ... Oh. Yeah.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:44 |
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THC posted:The CPC let that guy into their highly secured and strictly access-controlled indoor rally, so there's a slight distinction you're not observing They let me into LPC rallies, so what does that tell you?
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 22:59 |
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/wage-gap-oxfam-1.3478938quote:Women's wage gap getting wider in Canada, new report indicates
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:01 |
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Every political movement has a need of idiots so it's no reason to celebrate when the idiots get redirected into bad behaviour that will just raise the idiot-not idiot ratio without accomplishing anything. While this event itself obviously won't make much difference its symptomatic of deeper problems with the left that go all the way back to the 1960s. I'll quote Christopher Lasch at length here rather than rephrase his ideas in my own words and people can draw their own conclusions but I found the following passage pretty accurate in terms of diagnosing what is wrong with a lot of radical politics: Christopher Lasch, The Culture of Narcissism, pp. 81-83 posted:Radicalism as Street Theater The only parts of this analysis that don't quite fit any more is that at least the people being described by Lasch were 1) willing to take real physical risks and 2) actually had some kind of theory of social change, however misguided, informing their street theatrics, and 3) actually warranted national attention in any kind of consistent manner. One could debate Lasch's assertion about the extent to which the black power movement was crippled by deliberate police repression rather than undermined by its own theatricality, but as far as diagnosing this growing tendency on the left (though far from unique to the left) to treat politics more as a means of self expression than a method for achieving actual change I think Lasch's basic criticisms -- penned back in 1979 -- do capture some real issues with a lot of what passes for campus radicalism.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:01 |
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THC posted:You should tell your friends at Leftist HQ that their piss-throwing strategy is a non-starter. Based on some of the pissing and moaning in this thread as of late I was under the impression that we're posting in Leftist HQ right now.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:03 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:They let me into LPC rallies, so what does that tell you? A staffer gets into a rally by their own party. Is this really the argument you are making? Cue union haters from pooping on nurses and teachers for being overpaid. Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Mar 7, 2016 |
# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:03 |
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I think he meant it as a self deprecating joke.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:06 |
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^^^^he gets itjm20 posted:A staffer gets into a rally by their own party. Is this really the argument you are making? No I was making a self deprecating joke about myself
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:06 |
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THC posted:I think he meant it as a self deprecating joke. bunnyofdoom posted:No I was making a self deprecating joke about myself Don't be a PT6A now ed: bod I want to dm you and laugh at something you posted elsewhere but sigh
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:08 |
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Helsing posted:One could debate Lasch's assertion about the extent to which the black power movement was crippled by deliberate police repression rather than undermined by its own theatricality, but as far as diagnosing this growing tendency on the left (though far from unique to the left) to treat politics more as a means of self expression than a method for achieving actual change I think Lasch's basic criticisms -- penned back in 1979 -- do capture some real issues with a lot of what passes for campus radicalism. I would definitely take issue with that assertion given the legislative backlash to the Black Panthers and other black power groups, but that's beside the point. Blame Foucault maybe? It seems like the greatest accomplishment in activism these days is change the conversation, and that is often considered to be one of the great accomplishments of Occupy Wall Street, which seems to be the apex of theatrical self-promotion in radical politics in North America. We change the conversation about income inequality, systemic racism, climate change, and things will happen. Somehow, in some way. The intense anti-institutionalism of the New Left I think has always meant that any kind of proposal for change fails - regardless of the success of the advocacy - as soon as it makes contact with the realities of existing institutions and the ways policies are crafted by government and the civil service. Which might explain a lot of older leftists flight to neoliberalism - the government can't solve problems on its own, shackled as it is to institutional inertia and certain processes, so bring on the private sector that lacks both those restrictions and any meaningful accountability.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:19 |
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jm20 posted:Don't be a PT6A now Oh dear. Try email. removed. Also, technically, I didn't post that, the party did. edit: Also So we decided not to let this shithead in bunnyofdoom fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Mar 7, 2016 |
# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:20 |
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Drinking an animal's blood is the least offensive thing.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:30 |
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PT6A posted:I don't think anyone should have piss dumped on them. It is bad, and I really hope this is not a controversial opinion, but judging by this thread, it will be. Shooting people in the face on the other hand, that's A OK
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:33 |
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Not that I'm exactly torn up over him being interrogated and turned away, but besides representing a Neo-Nazi in court, what ties does he have to them?
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:34 |
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JawKnee posted:Not that I'm exactly torn up over him being interrogated and turned away, but besides representing a Neo-Nazi in court, what ties does he have to them? Duh, obviously criminals and people with bad, lovely opinions don't deserve legal representation. Any attempt to provide a legal defence for them should therefore be considered tantamount to agreeing with all of their thoughts and deeds. Note: I'm not actually being serious here.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:39 |
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Skinheads, Nazis, white nationalists and KKK guys show up to his gigs all the time and he never tells them to gently caress off. So there's that I guess. Also he legally changed his name to Augustus Sol Invictus so he's clearly a massive twat.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:41 |
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just move this thread to gbs already
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:43 |
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What a load of nonsensequote:The head of Canada's spy agency told a Senate committee today that his agency has used its extraordinary powers to disrupt extremist plots close to two dozen times since the fall of 2015. Two dozen extremist plots in the last 4 months. Truly we must be in grave danger all the time!!! e: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csis-power-disrupt-refugees-1.3479844
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:48 |
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THC posted:Skinheads, Nazis, white nationalists and KKK guys show up to his gigs all the time and he never tells them to gently caress off. So there's that I guess. Also he legally changed his name to Augustus Sol Invictus so he's clearly a massive twat. Should people be excluded from Canada if/when they are assessed to be a massive twat? I think screening people for ideological purity is not a thing the CBSA should be doing. It's as ridiculous as the US excluding people for admitting to experimenting with LSD in the 70s.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:50 |
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I wonder how many of these extremist plots were of CSIS's own making. We'll probably never get to find out "because national security", so I'm just going to assume they all are.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:51 |
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The nice thing about being a country and having borders is you don't need to exhaustively justify your reasons for keeping out right wing poo poo-disturbers who pal around with skinheads.
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# ? Mar 7, 2016 23:53 |
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THC posted:The nice thing about being a country and having borders is you don't need to exhaustively justify your reasons for keeping out right wing poo poo-disturbers who pal around with skinheads. Would you say maybe we should build a wall to help keep that sort out? It could have a beautiful door, even.
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# ? Mar 8, 2016 00:05 |
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you have bad, lovely opinions yet here we are
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# ? Mar 8, 2016 00:11 |
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I wouldn't go that far. This terrifying ditch seems to keep people out well enough already. It's full of man-eating raccoons and aggressive geese and God only knows what else. Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Mar 8, 2016 |
# ? Mar 8, 2016 00:16 |
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Cultural Imperial posted:Hey guys apparently Mike de Jong doesn't use email Good news, it turns out Christy Clark is illiterate, so she couldn't have written or read anything incriminating. Another brilliant political move by the BC Liberals.
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