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"Where are my NATO symbols for all these units?" "What do you MEAN I can't customise the load out for all my armies, they're not using the right kind of sword for this mission!"
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dublish posted:I get not having fun with grog games, but if you're not having fun with Paradox games I feel bad for you. Almost all of my enjoyment from Paradox games comes from cheating the hell out of them and painting the map my color. Immortal king with 100 in all stats? Yes please.
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Hearts of iron is bad and 4 looks terrible but for me I always got had the most fun from the ck series when I get a crazed pedophile on the throne or some other genetic freak (guess I shouldn't have done all that incest in previous generations, who knew?) and that one baron who has always been a thorn in my side revolts and I have the satisfaction of throwing him in the oblette, seizing this land and titles from his heir, and re appropriating them to the useless hangers on I invited to court. EU 3 was a lot of fun but until they started reworking combat 4 was just too soulless. I can only paint the new world in my colors so many times and the depiction of native americans is still pretty poor and the slave trade vastly simplified.
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Mar 8, 2016 08:45
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True, I do want a historically-accurate slave trade simulator.
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I find having something where there are only profits in slave trading and really none of negatives for africa or the colonies to be much more offensive.
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dtkozl posted:Hearts of iron is bad and 4 looks terrible I see a lot of hate for HoI on here but it's provided me with my most in-depth co-op grog experience yet. Myself and a friend have been playing as Italy and Germany for almost 10 real months (once or twice a week usually) in our coop HoI 3 game using the BlackIce mod (add's a stupid amount of poo poo.) We've gone from '36-'44 so far and Sea Lion was a success somehow! The new English capital is Calcutta and there are victorious Japanese armies sweeping down on them as we speak! With the English mainland in German hands there can be no question of staging a naval invasion to the degree of Normandy. America finds itself very much alone in a war on the other side of the planet, they do the only sensible thing and focus on the closer threat of a vastly powerful Japan that has tamed China. There is discussion in the highest echelons of Axis leadership of an invasion of South America and then onwards to glory! *Edit- Playing tutorials and the first thing I see is this!  Look how god drat clever that is, never seen open tank hatches used as armour for the commander/spotter before. (Maybe I have and I'm just not very observant haha) Abongination fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Mar 8, 2016 09:15
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A lot of people hated 3 because it was buggy as gently caress on release and the ai can be rock stupid with some things. Hearts of Iron 2 is praised because uhh... the scenarios are cool, I guess. And its pretty unique in terms of genre and setting, and ties everything together. The ui is poo poo these days and combat is crap compared to 3, but to each their own, right? Not sure whats so bad about IV though, the dev diaries look neat and Paradox has come a long way in the last 7+ years. 
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Not sure whats so bad about IV though, the dev diaries look neat and Paradox has come a long way in the last 7+ years. It's probably because they've radically changed how some things work (production, air/naval combat, etc.) and are generally taking a lot of crunch away from people who like to push counters around. It feels like HOI4 is much less about waging the war yourself, and instead taking on the role of Churchill or Roosevelt and steering the ship of state in more high-level terms. I'm optimistic about it, since Paradox now is much different to the Paradox that released HOI3 (which, with all expansions and patches, turned out to be An Alright Game I Guess). A few months ago I "came back" to HOI3 TFH after having given up on the game shortly after the core game launched. Had a pretty good amount of fun with an Italy game, but I'm not really sure if that's because I'm actually playing the game correctly or if I've had fun just by virtue of the fact of it being a Paradox game. I will freely admit to being an unabashed Paradox fanboy though, so I guess that counts too Also a grognard goon is on the dev team for HOI4 so that gets it a few points as well. Drone fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Did you mean me? I have been off HoI since December. Ck2 currently!Abongination posted:Look how god drat clever that is, never seen open tank hatches used as armour for the commander/spotter before. (Maybe I have and I'm just not very observant haha) I'm not sure it's the best idea, it also signals your hatch is open so snipers can watch for you popping up.
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Also, you can imagine how that giant one-piece hatch would severely limit forward visibility; not that the Soviets encouraged tank commanders to go into combat "unbuttoned." It was supposedly also very heavy, and dangerous if you dropped it before it was latched. It would eventually be replaced with a two piece hatch the would open to both the forward and the rear. Crew could then poke their heads just out of the hatch, like prairie dogs. After finishing my last play though of DC:B, which I loved, I had to pick up WitE in the last Steam sale. I was a bit intimidated by the enormous manual, but it's really not so hard once you dive in headlong. Started with the Road to Minsk and Road to Moscow scenarios; am working my way up to the big campaign. I don't completely get how the FBD's work. Do I have to manually order them to repair each track segment, or will the continue automatically once they start in a line? The rail buttons seem to change to "Return to HQ" on subsequent turns. But I can't tell when they move by themselves, if they are in fact doing so.
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There are two fbd types. The small ones are automatic and the big ones are totally manual but you only have 3-4 of them tops.
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Mar 8, 2016 15:21
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Please shut up about games that are not out, buy Graviteam Tactics: Mius Front, tell me about it. Thanks in advance. (You can talk about games that are not out after you play Graviteam Tactics: Mius Front and tell me about it.)
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I still giggle at one goon's review of Graviteam Tactics: "I bought it for a dollar and felt ripped off"
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I for one am greatly enjoying Mius Front. It's very pretty to watch and the dynamic battle system seems fairly robust. The UI is terrible, it's like they saw the Windows 8 Start Screen and decided to model their menu system from it. It's fairly easy to figure out the basics and start playing, the tutorials aren't terrible. Still lots to figure out which will take some reading.
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Drone posted:I'm optimistic about it, since Paradox now is much different to the Paradox that released HOI3 (which, with all expansions and patches, turned out to be An Alright Game I Guess). They're going public, probably presaged by buying the world of darkness stuff from CCP. Gonna be interesting to see how Fred Wester handles that. Re: Space games. Keep your eye on Stellaris by Paradox. They've obviously found a gap in their offerings since Kerberos disappeared up it's own anus.
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yo dog I heard you like tankers  more features for the next patch Command 1.11
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Tetraptous posted:Also, you can imagine how that giant one-piece hatch would severely limit forward visibility; not that the Soviets encouraged tank commanders to go into combat "unbuttoned." It was supposedly also very heavy, and dangerous if you dropped it before it was latched. I don't like the feel of WitE against the AI. Oh, I hit Minsk and Riga first turn and completed the Lvov pocket? Fun. It gets better, though. Barbarossa makes you work for that poo poo. Then the midgame hits and, at least in PBEM, holy gently caress.
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I spent about an hour dicking around with Mius Front and will repeat what everyone else has said. Its a pretty game. Trenches being deformed is an amazing thing. The AI does some cool things automatically (my example being the leader of squads running ahead to put down smoke screens for infantry advances when ordered to attack a position) Buuuuut the UI is average at best and I felt like I had less direct control of my men in comparison to combat mission. General opinion seems to be spend the $30 to watch pretty fights. There's a whole campaign aspect that I've yet to touch. Took some screenies, will post em when I'm home
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I got Vietnam '65 thanks to this thread and the other night I finally played a Medal of Honor game (where you have to allow the score to drop below 40 and then get a decisive victory.) So take note, this is what a successful counter-insurgency looks like.      Trailheads: 
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Abongination posted:I spent about an hour dicking around with Mius Front and will repeat what everyone else has said. Less direct control is on purpose
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Drone posted:True, I do want a historically-accurate slave trade simulator. "Slavery? What slavery?" - Sid Meier's Colonization
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Nenonen posted:"Slavery? What slavery?" Einsatzkommando? What einsatzkommando? - Gary Grigsby's War in the East I kid, I kid. Although there was that one WITE map mod that marked off which hexes in Poland and Germany had concentration camps.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Einsatzkommando? What einsatzkommando? Was there any word on why the creator made that? Because I would interpret it as a pretty clever way of showing what exactly you are actually doing when you are playing as the Germans. But then again, Grogs...
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Nenonen posted:"Slavery? What slavery?" Indentured Servants includes slaves.
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Alchenar posted:Indentured Servants includes slaves. They come from Europe and can be trained by Indians to become free citizens and there's no risk of them taking over one of your colonies and declaring independence...
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For anyone still on the fence about Mius Front, take a peek at these screenshots I took at the end of my last battle (between my capturing software crashing and me accidentally quitting the game anyway). Also: every battle looks like this because this game looks incredible. http://imgur.com/a/s4QEn Some choice shots:     And this flaming wreck, which set on fire close to where those other tanks blew up, rolled alllllllllllll the way down the hill into one of my trenches, then cooked off killing about 5 of my men  .  I'm actually really starting to like this game, especially seeing as this ridiculous and enormous battle occured on the first turn (of 18) of the main campaign 
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Mar 10, 2016 00:55
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Yep, every battle has a handful of "holy poo poo" moments. A rogue T-34 rolling into my trenches and crushing some men. My assault gun getting hit in the side and the crew bailing out as flames start to shoot out the hole and black smoke engulfs the soon to explode tank. Or the first time a swarm of Stukas arrive and save your rear end, swooping in and bombing tanks well the tail gunner sprays fire on infantry. At the end of the battle there are grass fires slowly engulfing an open field, trenches completely unearthed and billowing smoke plumes from dozens of destroyed tanks.
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I've noticed the AI in Mius likes to set up right on the edge of their territory. If you do the same, then when you press start an entire army materialises right in front of you.
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Nenonen posted:"Slavery? What slavery?" Civilization has ruined a generation of people by teaching that technological progress is linear and that nothing bad happenshape in history, and that a civilization is only as good as its technological level. Paradox is the true payh
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Speaking of Hearts of Iron, the Matrix thread about it is pretty great
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gradenko_2000 posted:Speaking of Hearts of Iron, the Matrix thread about it is pretty great Pretty surprising that so many people are telling the OP that he is an idiot (which he is).
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gradenko_2000 posted:Speaking of Hearts of Iron, the Matrix thread about it is pretty great That's some Greatest Hits poo poo there. "My uncle who works for
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Mar 10, 2016 23:23
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I wish there were more cold war wargames
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I sortied Force Z against half of the Kido Butai at full speed. The results were not good let's say.  At least PoW and the Repulse are OK! As long as the half KB heads east I'll be fine I think.
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Baloogan posted:I wish there were more cold war wargames I want a cold war wagame based off the cold war movie wargames 
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Baloogan posted:I wish there were more cold war wargames Rule The Waves except with Cold War tech, and instead of European superpowers you play as post-colonial nations. Including those hilarious "After dining with a Lokheed exec, the president demands you buy F104s for your ground attack squadrons instead of the A4s originally planned" events.
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Xenolalia posted:I want a cold war wagame based off the cold war movie wargames You need to go play DEFCON right now... Its exactly what you have always dreamed of.
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Saros posted:My friend.... have you played Defcon. Its exactly what you have always dreamed of. Maybe it's not Grognardy (is that even a word) enough for him.
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 What more could you want?  There are even mods where you get to nuke Mars/The Moon. Saros fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Anyone tried the new battle pack for Combat Mission: Normandy yet? I'm annoyed that it requires their vehicle pack, which is $20. Which means I have to pay $30 total in order to play that battle pack. Maybe that's not worth it.
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