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Yeah I have no interest in donating to this kind of thing but I don't really understand why people get indignant about it either. If someone has money to burn and wants to spend it patronizing musicians in the old school court musician sense, it's not skin off my back. Except when Jari from Wintersun justifies it by posting long whines about how he absolutely can't record an album under the constraints that pretty much every band ever formed deals with. That's hilarious.
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My assumption is they are too kvlt to have ever heard of the starving artist stereotype. Developing any awareness of the world would have distracted from sneaking away from classes to go smoke or ripping up their jean jacket, or whatever it is metal kids these days feel is necessary to differentiate their subculture.
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A TURGID FATSO posted:It's to ask for a free ride with two less-than-stellar records under your belt? That's cool I guess. I've seen things you backers wouldn't believe. Youtube movie reviewers who never review anything raking in $5k/mo. Subpar 1980's tabletop RPGs getting full color re-releases purely for nostalgia. All those drama bombs will be lost in time, like tweets in rain. Time to donate.
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Mar 7, 2016 21:00
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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A TURGID FATSO posted:two less-than-stellar records under your belt them are fightin words
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Mar 7, 2016 21:15
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if you wnat to get upset about patreon you're about *checks watch* like 4 years too late
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Scrambles posted:listened to the new church of misery and it's boring as gently caress and then I remembered that everyone but the bassist quit after the last record
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Mar 7, 2016 21:26
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Making a living playing metal (or dedicating yourself to your art in general) is loving great and if you hate on it you're the problem tbh. There are problems with crowdfunding no doubt but this isn't an example. I don't care about NeO but I'm super happy they're close to being able to live their dream career.
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Mar 7, 2016 21:46
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...And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope blew my mind when I first heard it, and I still love that song, but everything else they've done just sort of sounds like that, only less interesting. Kind of a shame.
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Mar 7, 2016 21:53
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A TURGID FATSO posted:It's to ask for a free ride with two less-than-stellar records under your belt? That's cool I guess. Hulk Krogan posted:...And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope blew my mind when I first heard it, and I still love that song, but everything else they've done just sort of sounds like that, only less interesting. Kind of a shame. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqgEYrF-SWI
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Mar 7, 2016 21:54
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Blackholes Part 1 has been at least weekly listening since that album came out but I'm weird
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Hulk Krogan posted:...And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope blew my mind when I first heard it, and I still love that song, but everything else they've done just sort of sounds like that, only less interesting. Kind of a shame. b-but Of Petrichor and As Icicles Fall are the best tracks on that album
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Mar 7, 2016 22:33
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Lol the Metal Alliance tour has Acacia Strain as the second-billed band this year. Dying Fetus and Black Crown Initiate are not nearly enough to get me to see that.
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Mar 7, 2016 22:37
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Henchman of Santa posted:Lol the Metal Alliance tour has Acacia Strain as the second-billed band this year. Dying Fetus and Black Crown Initiate are not nearly enough to get me to see that. Dying Fetus sure do love to be a part of terrible tour packages.
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Mar 7, 2016 22:55
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To be fair they're kind of the legit death metal equivalent of a band like that
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xzzy posted:My assumption is they are too kvlt to have ever heard of the starving artist stereotype. Developing any awareness of the world would have distracted from sneaking away from classes to go smoke or ripping up their jean jacket, or whatever it is metal kids these days feel is necessary to differentiate their subculture. do you just throw the word kvlt at anything you don't like or something, because those guys are liked mostly by prog metal dudes Kilometers Davis posted:Making a living playing metal (or dedicating yourself to your art in general) is loving great and if you hate on it you're the problem tbh. There are problems with crowdfunding no doubt but this isn't an example. I don't care about NeO but I'm super happy they're close to being able to live their dream career. it doesn't sound like they are very close to doing that if they're asking for money online
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A human heart posted:do you just throw the word kvlt at anything you don't like or something, because those guys are liked mostly by prog metal dudes
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It was meant to be a silly insult, I guess it worked.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Nah man this nerdy violin-and-fretless-bass-wielding prog band that tours with Cradle of Filth and Butcher Babies are the new LLN. please dont remind me that theyre touring with butcher babies  regardless of your opinion of NeO, i think we can all agree that that bill is baffling and terrible
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Mar 7, 2016 23:49
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TheIllestVillain posted:hell yea They have the new album on spotify now and I haven't stopped listening to it since they put it up.
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Cool, Draugnim are releasing a new album in a few days. A couple songs are already up on Bandcamp, sounds pretty good. http://dmp666.bandcamp.com/album/vulturine Check it out if you have a hankering for some epic pagan black metal while waiting for the new Moonsorrow.
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Henchman of Santa posted:To be fair they're kind of the legit death metal equivalent of a band like that Oh yeah, no doubt. Their last ten years or so has definitely put them in this camp. It's just too bad that we'll never get another "Killing On Adrenaline". Open this pit up!
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This is rad. https://wtcproductions.bandcamp.com/album/black-mirror-hours
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Kilometers Davis posted:Making a living playing metal (or dedicating yourself to your art in general) is loving great and if you hate on it you're the problem tbh. Also it's almost as rare as wining the lottery. Henchman of Santa posted:Lol the Metal Alliance tour has Acacia Strain as the second-billed band this year. Dying Fetus and Black Crown Initiate are not nearly enough to get me to see that. I'm tempted to go solely because the place they're playing near where I live is a legit cowboy bar with a mechanical bull and everything. That should at least be interesting. A human heart posted:it doesn't sound like they are very close to doing that if they're asking for money online The thing that gets me is that one guy quitting his six figure job to tour full time. The vast majority of "successful" metal band members, especially in any form of extreme metal, have day jobs and tour during vacations or work in industries where they can take extended time off. There's just not that much money in it, and if his concern is making sure the band keeps going, having something to rely on financially is a hell of a lot more important because most bands break up over not making enough to keep going. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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comes along bort posted:Also it's almost as rare as wining the lottery. I've heard of more than a few bands recently that have been directing merch buyers away from the merch table and out to the parking lot after the show.
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comes along bort posted:The thing that gets me is that one guy quitting his six figure job to tour full time. The vast majority of "successful" metal band members, especially in any form of extreme metal, have day jobs and tour during vacations or work in industries where they can take extended time off. There's just not that much money in it, and if his concern is making sure the band keeps going, having something to rely on financially is a hell of a lot more important because most bands break up over not making enough to keep going. Who else remembers a guitarist from Aeon quitting and then whining about not being able to make any money off of death metal, and then a dude (the bassist, I believe) from gently caress The Facts takes that guys statement almost word-for-word and trolls him about how he makes even less money yet continues to do it because it's what he loves? That was a good time.
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Vulture Culture posted:Successful bands used to make an okay living from record sales, with most of their own money coming from selling tickets and merch. Some successful bands sure. I remember an interview with Richard Christy of all people who said he could never make a living from music full time. Even with Death, who were one of the top-selling death metal bands. And that was back when they were pushing 40-50k units per album easily.
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If anyone cares, Stereogum is streaming a new song off my band Nucleus' new album coming out on Unspeakable Axe. Only listen to it if you Patreon me 250 dollars a month though. http://www.stereogum.com/1863446/nucleus-dosadi-stereogum-premiere/mp3s/
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I think there's going to be a natural shift of artists self producing records and selling them directly via digital medium. It's getting more affordable to get studio grade equipment in a home recording setup and with digital sales you don't need a record deal to produce physical product. I'd much rather give 10 bucks directly to a band for an album rather than a record company. I've seen some bands allow fans to stream a record once before giving them the option to buy. This is a great concept that needs to be explored more. I can understand how playing music won't make you a livable wage, but there seems to be significant opportunity selling direct to consumers with self produced records.
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Wyzt posted:If anyone cares, Stereogum is streaming a new song off my band Nucleus' new album coming out on Unspeakable Axe. Only listen to it if you Patreon me 250 dollars a month though. How'd you get that worked out, out of curiosity? My band tried to get our stuff to them for Black Market consideration but we can't even figure out their standard email addresses.
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Henchman of Santa posted:How'd you get that worked out, out of curiosity? My band tried to get our stuff to them for Black Market consideration but we can't even figure out their standard email addresses. I'm not sure about the details, sorry. They got in contact with our label saying they were interested in doing our second song premier(first song premier was just a youtube video posted a few weeks ago). They most likely got a promo email from clawhammer PR when the wave of those went out(the promotion company unspeakable and dark descent use) Wyzt fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Vargatron posted:I think there's going to be a natural shift of artists self producing records and selling them directly via digital medium. It's getting more affordable to get studio grade equipment in a home recording setup and with digital sales you don't need a record deal to produce physical product. I'd much rather give 10 bucks directly to a band for an album rather than a record company. almost like some kind of diy movement, perhaps
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A human heart posted:almost like some kind of diy movement, perhaps Like handing out... cassette tapes?
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Scrambles posted:I think I like their 2010 demo better than the full-length but they have a new full-length coming out soon too. It took me a week to get around to it but this is good poo poo for sure
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Vargatron posted:Like handing out... cassette tapes? I'd buy the cassette tapes to support the band directly and download the mp3's / listen on Spotify (if they're on there)
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New Skeletonwitch: https://skeletonwitch.bandcamp.com/album/well-of-despair The new singer is good, but I still kinda miss Chance.
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New Kvelertak song. I think it's boring. http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2016/03/08/469503739/vikings-choice-kvelertak-1985
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Hulk Krogan posted:New Skeletonwitch: https://skeletonwitch.bandcamp.com/album/well-of-despair Missing Chance. This is boring and generic. Chance had a great range and his thrashy-death growls were amazing. Plus the guttural stuff. This loving goes nowhere.
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Hulk Krogan posted:New Skeletonwitch: https://skeletonwitch.bandcamp.com/album/well-of-despair terrible
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Interview with Karl from Bolt Thrower and Memorium is up at Invisible Oranges. Nothing too surprising I don't think but it is good to know that the Bolt Thrower crew hasn't called it off yet and that Karl's got his creative juices flowing again. Still pretty stoked for whatever comes out of the new band too.
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Vintersorg posted:Missing Chance. Did they get Tommy from BTBAM to sing? This sounds a little off...
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