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But he is, though? He becomes less focused after he goes through his arc early in the game, but he's a useful team member and figures a few key things before others and stuff. FFXII is really an ensemble story, where each character gets the focus at different times. I like it alot, although I've yet to finish it (I play it in burst).
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Oh, come on, let's not pretend we all wouldn't poo poo our pants if we saw the Alien crab walk toward us like that.
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lizardman posted:Oh, come on, let's not pretend we all wouldn't poo poo our pants if we saw the Alien crab walk toward us like that. Luckily movies aren't real life.
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I get the idea behind it. Prior to that you never actually see the alien move. It's always static until it appears suddenly. The crab walk is so fundamentally strange and offputting that it underlines how alien and unbelievable this creature is. Except that it just can't sell it because it looks so fuckin' goofy and it's a good thing they cut it.
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Tenzarin posted:Go Ridley, go! I love this walk.
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Tenzarin posted:Go Ridley, go! Ah, so Alien was really just a plagiarism of The Exorcist?
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I don't know, seeing the alien walk all awkwardly like that just makes it more scary to me for some reason. Like it doesn't give a gently caress about looking cool or powerful, it will move how it wants because it's an unstoppable killing machine.
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I thought it was creepy because of how childish the crabwalk is followed immediately by the Alien doing unspeakable things to Parker.
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Yeah, I think it added to this idea that the alien was a new born child still figuring out its environment and the meat bag toy things around it. It's born, explores a bit, kills for fun/curiosity then has a nap. That's the story of alien.
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The concept is great but it really does look dumb and not intimidating at all in the scene itself, I'm glad they didn't use it. They sort of played with the idea when Fifield gets up weirdly in Prometheus.
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They were going for something creepy and unnatural looking, and it didn't work out. Like the Exorcist "spiderwalk" Immortan alludes to above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnxAnDcysvk&t=72s
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That one is disturbing, SMG. Thanks!
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Google "Alien 3 whippet" for a good laugh at that production test.
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MrMojok posted:That one is disturbing, SMG. Thanks! XTRO is really good fuckin' watch it.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Google "Alien 3 whippet" for a good laugh at that production test. I give them credit for a good idea. Let's slap Larry's yellow lab in full Alien makeup and have him run around, moving in a way that human joints do not work and adding a layer of unfamiliarity and weirdness. The problem is that the body language of a dog is so inherently familiar to a majority of human beings on this word so it just looked kinda 
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The Alien 3 Director's Cut is a great Easter movie and I hope I can talk people into watching it for the holiday. Children of Men is the modern Christmas movie.
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Wild T posted:I give them credit for a good idea. Let's slap Larry's yellow lab in full Alien makeup and have him run around, moving in a way that human joints do not work and adding a layer of unfamiliarity and weirdness. The problem is that the body language of a dog is so inherently familiar to a majority of human beings on this word so it just looked kinda
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 I am not sure why they thought they even needed full-body shots of the alien when they frankly didn't have the technology to make it look right and they managed to not really have to do it in two far superior movies, but then again this one was written by committee by all reports. What we ended up with when they did full shots here just looked bad. The alien is almost never walking around on-screen in our first two movies, true--because it gives away that it's a guy in a suit. To put it mildly, they didn't solve that problem in Alien 3.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:The alien is almost never walking around on-screen in our first two movies, true--because it gives away that it's a guy in a suit. To put it mildly, they didn't solve that problem in Alien 3. True, I can't think of a single instance in Alien or Aliens where you see the xeno walk around, or even just standing upright. Its always either hanging from something, standing off-camera, in zero gravity, or skittering on a ceiling. The closest is probably the shot of it reaching for Dallas in the air duct, but its just crouching in that shot. The Queen of course is a completely different beast. That thing is the best movie prop ever designed.
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The alien stands to full height near the end of Alien when it's killing Parker and murder-raping Lambert, and even then they don't really move it around.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:The alien stands to full height near the end of Alien when it's killing Parker and murder-raping Lambert, and even then they don't really move it around. Its mostly off-screen though isn't it? Like, you see the tail swishing around and then there's a shot of the mouth but you don' t ever get the full body shot. Maybe I'm misremembering.
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The alien slowly moves toward Lambert after it kills Parker.
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You're all part right. You see the Alien 'walking' but it's not a full-body shot (you can't see it's legs). I think the closest thing we get to a full-body shot of the Alien standing upright is a very quick one (I believe in the Parker/Lambert attack but it could have been the scene with Brett) where the creature is rising from a crouching position. And, of course, the infamous shots at the end where it's being blown out of the airlock where everyone is like, "oh it's just a guy in a suit!" EDIT: I'm reminded of that episode of the Nickelodeon cartoon Doug, where the main character is frightened to death of a sci-fi horror movie called "The Abnormal" until he reaches the end and he can see the zipper on the monster's costume. I always suspected this was riffing on the end of Alien (even if "The Abnormal" appears to be a mish-mash of The Hidden and The Thing). lizardman fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Where's this from? E: never mind found it.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:To put it mildly, they didn't solve that problem in Alien 3. I really love the part where she thinks she sees it sleeping and strikes it but it's just some pipe and the it's above and behind her and sort of reaches out weirdly. Even though it's a suit little bits like that or the part where it rips open the guy whose blood gets splattered over Golic's face look great. But then when Ripley and Charles S. Dutton are grappling with it at the end whyyyyy.
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Neo Rasa posted:I really love the part where she thinks she sees it sleeping and strikes it but it's just some pipe and the it's above and behind her and sort of reaches out weirdly. Could you post a clip or screencap of this? I remember the scene but I must not have noticed or don't remember the alien actually being in the shot.
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SMERSH Mouth posted:Could you post a clip or screencap of this? I remember the scene but I must not have noticed or don't remember the alien actually being in the shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmF_IO6Aiag
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I love that scene because it shows you the world through ripleys eyes for a moment
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Alien 3 had just the coolest looking Alien design and the suit looked fantastic, even if it didn't match the rod puppet like, at all. Smooth dome all the way, gently caress Aliens and its ridged dome alien designs.
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Stare-Out posted:Alien 3 had just the coolest looking Alien design and the suit looked fantastic, even if it didn't match the rod puppet like, at all. Smooth dome all the way, gently caress Aliens and its ridged dome alien designs. NECA did a *huge* figure of the Alien3 design recently and it's goddamn amazing. If you're a fan of the Alien3 design, you owe it to yourself to pick this thing up.
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lizardman posted:You're all part right. You see the Alien 'walking' but it's not a full-body shot (you can't see it's legs). OMG, in the vents in alien. THE ALIEN WAS CRAB WALKING.
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Thanks. I guess I need to watch the whole thing again, it's been many years. Funny that I remember the fake out but not the real alien.. for some reason I was expecting it to be hidden in the background, moving, but never seen by Ripley.
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I love Aliens but the smooth design is so much loving better than the ridged design. The latter isn't bad at all and it plays well in the film but the classic design is just aces.
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SirDrone posted:Clearly the best design Your picture is so small I cant even tell what movie it is from.
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Tenzarin posted:Your picture is so small I cant even tell what movie it is from. Looks like uhhhh....Carnosaur maybe?
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