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Why use manual focus for street when your scene is going to last seconds at most?
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Mar 8, 2016 03:47
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Why use manual focus for street when your scene is going to last seconds at most? Not many fast MFT lenses. This one lacks electrical contacts, looks pretty. Why do people use Leica M gear to shoot street? This is the cheap version of that and an interesting challenge.
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Mar 8, 2016 03:58
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Why use manual focus for street when your scene is going to last seconds at most? Zone focusing.
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Mar 8, 2016 04:16
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Most people don't shoot street at wide apertures. So f/8 focused to hyperfocal on a wide angle is totally fine. I hope windex isn't shooting at f/0.95 and guesstimating focus because that would be ridiculous . Oh god that's what you are doing isn't it?
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Mar 8, 2016 08:59
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8th-snype posted:Most people don't shoot street at wide apertures. So f/8 focused to hyperfocal on a wide angle is totally fine. I hope windex isn't shooting at f/0.95 and guesstimating focus because that would be ridiculous . Oh god that's what you are doing isn't it? Not quite .95, but 1.4 to 2.8, which would be doable if infinite focus was a little more fixed on the lens. It starts somewhere between the beginning of the infinite mark and ends somewhere around the middle of the first loop, hence winding up either front or backfocused. Also, petty easy to hit targets at f/4 with the DOF on the 17.5, PEN-F starts to poo poo out after ISO1600, dark is dark. I've gotten it right at .95 a couple times loving around but those photos are even more boring.
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Mar 8, 2016 09:30
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windex posted:Not quite .95, but 1.4 to 2.8, which would be doable if infinite focus was a little more fixed on the lens. Figure out how to put things in a rectangle before worrying about your bokehliciousness.
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Mar 8, 2016 11:29
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burzum karaoke posted:Figure out how to put things in a rectangle before worrying about your bokehliciousness. Man, see. The time I have to shoot is at night. You aren't wrong, it's just complicated. Also, that'll get better. I'm shooting blind with that setup most of the time. My brain just about has got enough experience to center the frame blind, so moving out from there will come.
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Mar 8, 2016 11:54
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Sounds like you've got an excuse for everything already so how about you stop posting and go out side and shoot more
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Mar 8, 2016 12:19
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Don't expect to shoot reactively in low light, it's putting the cart before the horse. Options for lit areas at night are usually narrow enough that you can find setups for shots where worrying about nailing focus goes out the window. That or bring a flash.
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Mar 8, 2016 12:20
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Fart Car '97 posted:Sounds like you've got an excuse for everything already so how about you stop posting and go out side and shoot more I am stuck doing real day job work but it's complete bullshit right now so I have time to type pointlessly while I wish for death. Feel sorry for me, I suck at everything and have an awful job where I am occasionally forced to do things and have time to post badly. burzum karaoke posted:Don't expect to shoot reactively in low light, it's putting the cart before the horse. Options for lit areas at night are usually narrow enough that you can find setups for shots where worrying about nailing focus goes out the window. That or bring a flash. I disagree with almost this entire post, I shoot events, especially concerts, and the key difference is that you have a few seconds here and then to frame and take some time memorizing the lines of the stage. You make the difference up between poo poo and not through quantity and prayer, and in the end you can get away with some bad shots because the value in getting a shot outweighs the merits of composition in some cases. Part of the reason I am doing this is to increase my response time doing that as I have missed some good shots and regretted it. Also, Tokyo as a whole is a semi-lit area at worst at night. I agree with the bringing a flash part, but I need a center pin only flash cable or more faith in scotch tape to use my Canon flashes with the Oly safely and haven't spotted one yet. This is just a new camera, lens, and technique, and goddamnit, I will master it, at least to the level of dealing with quantity and prayer.
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Mar 8, 2016 12:56
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A razor thin depth of field will only increase your response time unless you've already set your shot up. It's not a question of excuses, you're adding a step to the process expecting to make it faster. The whole point of using scale focus is that's it's fast, you can do it by feel and don't need to think about it. With practice you can probably go down to f/4-5.6 with some reliability, but f/.95 bitchplease. Crank your ISO and quit crying about grain,  it's not the thing that's making your pictures bad!
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Mar 8, 2016 14:07
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Are you trying to find the actual infinity point of the lens, or looking for the hyperfocal. If the former, why? At least with the hyperfocal you can put your focal point a bit further past the actual point to compensate for dodgy markings and still get more areas closer to you in reasonable focus. Or is there something I'm not considering? Hyperfocal on those manual lenses should be generally easy too, unlike all my AF lenses where the depth scale goes from 2m to infinity within a few mm and the HF distance is 9m or whatever.
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Mar 8, 2016 14:08
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EL BROMANCE posted:Are you trying to find the actual infinity point of the lens, or looking for the hyperfocal. If the former, why? At least with the hyperfocal you can put your focal point a bit further past the actual point to compensate for dodgy markings and still get more areas closer to you in reasonable focus. Or is there something I'm not considering? There's no hard stop for infinity, and the slightest nudge pushes you into the abyss, as the entire focus range of the lens is exhausted in a 200 degree rotation. I also just discovered I did the math wrong on the hyperfocal distances at various f-stops for the lens because I didn't adjust for the right crop factor, which means I am an idiot and this is why I am fighting with things. burzum karaoke posted:A razor thin depth of field will only increase your response time unless you've already set your shot up. It's not a question of excuses, you're adding a step to the process expecting to make it faster. The whole point of using scale focus is that's it's fast, you can do it by feel and don't need to think about it. With practice you can probably go down to f/4-5.6 with some reliability, but f/.95 You know, you aren't really wrong. I don't know why my test images rubbed me the wrong way, but looking at these: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/olympus-pen-f/olympus-pen-fA7.HTM ... at the bottom, it's really not that bad. I mean, the biggest falloff in quality starts between ISO1600 and 3200, but it's no 5D3. So, yeah. Good point.
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Mar 8, 2016 14:48
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There should be a rule that windex isn't allowed to make a post in the street thread unless he has a photo taken within the last 24 hours to go with every post
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Mar 8, 2016 14:54
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Fart Car '97 posted:There should be a rule that windex isn't allowed to make a post in the street thread unless he has a photo taken within the last 24 hours to go with every post The best way for me to stop and think about what I'm doing is to think out loud in a room full of people that hate me. Also it's going to rain all week so I guess I'll be back next week. edit: I could take the 5D3 and my weather sealed glass but the PEN-F / Voigtlander combo is not weather sealed and I'm not sure I would be happy if the plastic bag method failed me right now. windex fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Mar 8, 2016 15:14
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windex posted:The best way for me to stop and think about what I'm doing is to think out loud in a room full of people that hate me. Rain is awesome
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Mar 8, 2016 16:06
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tau posted:Rain is awesome Yup. Bad conditions make for better photos.
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Mar 8, 2016 16:19
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Hows it going street thread? MPRZ0240 by Bud, on Flickr
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Mar 8, 2016 19:27
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windex posted:
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Mar 8, 2016 23:09
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 Street Fight by Iain Compton, on Flickr
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Mar 8, 2016 23:48
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windex posted:The best way for me to stop and think about what I'm doing is to think out loud in a room full of people that hate me. You definitely don't need to think about what you're doing. The pictures you posted are perfect. You obviously know exactly what you're doing, so there's no need to come here for our help.
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Mar 9, 2016 02:41
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Suicide Watch posted:
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Mar 9, 2016 04:17
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 Portland, OR by David Shen, on Flickr
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Mar 11, 2016 02:48
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windex posted:Not many fast MFT lenses. This one lacks electrical contacts, looks pretty. Why do people use Leica M gear to shoot street? This is the cheap version of that and an interesting challenge. The rest of this tread is tldr. gently caress you sound monkey ill do what i want including lack of punctuation and run on sentances, gently caress canada i used a comma. gently caress You. Dont talk about leica like you know what you are doing. Learn how to pre-fucus. f/8 at 2.5 meters. f/22 at 1m>, and dont even bother with f/22 on your lovely digita lcamera due to diffraction limits. There are plenty of .95 lenses with good optics for M43, sorry you dont have a Noct-NIkkor or an M3. Dont let your cameras body control you or identify you. Why do people use Leica? Money. Shut up and look at good photos and then mimic them. Develop an eye.
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Mar 11, 2016 07:55
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Musket posted:The rest of this tread is tldr. gently caress you sound monkey ill do what i want including lack of punctuation and run on sentances, gently caress canada i used a comma. what is this.
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Mar 11, 2016 08:02
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Shut up and post bad photos. sincerly, bart radfucker.  Wildwood Trail, Portland by Anthony Shade, on Flickr
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Mar 11, 2016 08:03
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:what is this. The meaning of life.
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Mar 11, 2016 08:20
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Musket posted:The rest of this tread is tldr. gently caress you sound monkey ill do what i want including lack of punctuation and run on sentances, gently caress canada i used a comma. 
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Mar 11, 2016 08:26
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Musket posted:Shut up and post bad photos. Ok  
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Mar 11, 2016 08:41
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sorry accidentally uploaded an older version of the second photo, here's the final image #nofilter
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Mar 11, 2016 08:54
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atomicthumbs posted:sorry accidentally uploaded an older version of the second photo, here's the final image #nofilter My eyes are bleeding from the cutting edge glory of this shot.
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Mar 11, 2016 08:55
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atomicthumbs posted:sorry accidentally uploaded an older version of the second photo, here's the final image #nofilter Thank you.
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Mar 11, 2016 20:25
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Musket posted:Shut up and post bad photos. you're definitely doing that
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Mar 12, 2016 03:20
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Man, street photos loving suck. Trump Rally Protest by Tom Olson, on Flickr Trump Rally Protest by Tom Olson, on Flickr
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Mar 12, 2016 03:35
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lol @ wearing a mask like you are getting prosecuted for supporting bern
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Mar 12, 2016 03:43
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:lol @ wearing a mask like you are getting prosecuted for supporting bern Actually you're just culturally ignorant.
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Mar 12, 2016 03:48
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RangerScum posted:Actually you're just culturally ignorant. I probably am, what are they supposed to mean?
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Mar 12, 2016 06:20
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Well they're Mexicans at a protest against a Trump (whose supporters are by and large, consciously or not, racist) rally in Chicago (a city with a pretty dang long history of racial tension and violence). Or maybe they wanted to show the flag of their homeland but also have their hands free? 
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Mar 12, 2016 08:15
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:I probably am, what are they supposed to mean? What do cowboy hats mean?
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this thread never disappoints
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