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graybook posted:I love her near-permanent :3 face. Isn't that Kirari's deal. Or Miku's.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Isn't that Kirari's deal. Or Miku's. Shiki's  for science. Kirari is always happy-happy. And Miku is a cat.
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Mar 9, 2016 02:17
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In terms of facial details, Miku also has the moments where her eyes get wide in a sort of catlike way. 
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graybook posted:In terms of facial details, Miku also has the moments where her eyes get wide in a sort of catlike way. That's VERY GOOD.
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Mar 9, 2016 02:27
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psst watch cinderella girls
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graybook posted:Marshmallow Kiss is one I don't like much at all. It's... "pop"py but not in the sense of "pop music", but like, it gives me a sense of bubbles popping, a kind of effervescence that, while it is in tune with Kirari's character, just plain isn't to my liking. It also feels irregular, which, again, matches her to a degree, but does little in terms of what I find appealing. But that's just me. graybook posted:Atashi Ponkotsu Android, though - that, along with Nation Blue, Orange Sapphire, and the other trio crop of Pastel Pink na Koi, Orgel no Kobako, Zettai Tokken Shuchou Shimasuu! [which I admittedly haven't listened to yet but will once the event hits] - these are all from the Cute/Cool/Passion jewelries! CDs, which each group 5 girls from the noted attribute together for a group song, and a single cover song for each of the girls. These group songs communicate a sense of character, but not individually, I feel - they're more for the 'character' of the attribute they represent. AtaPon is adorable, Nation Blue is poised and powerful, Orange Sapphire is energetic. Pastel Pink na Koi is soft, Orgel no Kobako is elegant, and I can't say anything about the third yet. But my point still stands in that they communicate the character of Cute, Cool, or Passion. Yeah, one thing I do appreciate about the iM@S CG SS game is that all the characters are tied to one color. SIF is all over the place with colors for both characters and songs. Like, how is Kaguya a Blue song. Blue songs should be like the Soldier Game series. Or the Winter song by BiBi. Or all 2 A-RISE songs. You have an idea of what you're getting into with iM@S, less so for LL.
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Gonna hafta wait to read the rest cause I am busy with work at the moment.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:
Part of this, I'd argue, is that for Love Live, the attribute thing doesn't seem to be as central to the song concept as it is in iM@S. Speaking only to CG because it's all I could feel comfortable with here, the Cute/Cool/Passion categorization of girls generally speaks a lot to their various characters, and that is further reinforced by the types of songs you see them singing (most of the time, like with the exception of, say, rainbow-attribute songs). Granted, there are also occasional muddy areas like ØωØver!!, since Miku's Cute-attribute and Riina is Cool-attribute, but the song is classified as Cute-attribute. As such, because the concept is preexisting and taken into consideration, it's just a matter of documenting it and referencing it correctly in the game. On the other hand, though, for School Idol Festival, it's its own canon in the Love Live universe since there's the concept of the School Idol Festival itself, and a bunch of events take place that aren't in the anime. The anime did influence it to some degree, but that's also beside the point I'm trying to make here. Which is that the Smile/Cool/Pure categorizations are not in consideration (at least, I would argue) whenever the songs are created. I mean, the mobage came out in, what, 2013? That's about three years after Love Live! School Idol Project launched, and that's also three years in which the discography was able to grow. And I would believe that it's not all too likely that way back then, they were thinking "hmm we should have a concrete system to categorize these songs based on the kind of image/feel we want them to communicate". As such, I think I might say that the Smile/Cool/Pure attributes are retrofitted onto the songs, and used solely in SIF for the sake of a gameplay mechanic. (If the attributes also show up in School Idol Paradise, let me know, as I never had the system to play those on.) There's less consistency in how the mechanic is forced as well between the two games. Owing to the importance of the three attributes in terms of giving an idea as to a girl's personality in iM@S CG, you will never see a girl with a card matching the attribute she was initially identified with - you will always have Shiki or Miku or Sae as a Cute-type, and never with a Cool or Passion card, however close they may come to exhibiting characteristics that could arguably recategorize them into one of those attributes. In School Idol Festival, though, there is some adherence to certain types for various girls - they exhibit a slight increase in stats compared to other cards of what one would expect to be the same strength when it comes to certain attributes (like how the three initial R sets have Rin/Honoka/Nico as Smile, Hanayo/Kotori/Nozomi as Pure, and Maki/Umi/Eli for Cool). But then they can be shown on cards with other attributes too. tl;dr: Attribute characterization is a far stronger concept in iM@S than it is in Love Live, where the former takes it into consideration seemingly franchise-wide and the latter only considers it for one setting, and even then, not completely consistently.
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The card typing in SIF feels a bit like the visual/vocal/dance typing in SS. Like, it's there, but even if, say, the best Nicos are cute type, it's not an important enough difference as to stop you from running an all-cool nico team. Obviously, it's way more important than the vi/vo/da stats are, in terms of gameplay, since matching that to the song is only one bonus in SS. But I think it occupies an overall similar place. Different cards of the same idols can have different balances, apparently. I just checked some Anyas and the R and the starry beach one are both pretty balanced, vo/vi/da: 30/29/30, and 43/43/44 respectively. But then the orgel one is 60/38/31, which is completely insane, but whatever. Although I'd probably need to find more multiples to see if that spread is just a weird thing.
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Ah true - I tend to forget about the visual/vocal/dance stats because my mode of thinking is mapped from SIF where the stats and attributes are simplified. Jeez, almost makes me wish I had tiered for Orgel, but that was just way too much competition for my taste.
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Mar 9, 2016 03:55
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Called MegaBox and I apparently have to buy one ticket for each day.
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Mar 9, 2016 05:37
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Also doing 3 Experts on the Challenge is better than doing 5 Hards, both in terms of points and possible prizes. I've gotten like 2 Golds and 6 Silvers off of like 12 (or 9?) Experts while a ton of Hards has net me like 5 Silvers. 1,000 points for 5 Hards versus 1,200 points for 3 Experts What happens if you die? Do you lose all your prizes?
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Called MegaBox and I apparently have to buy one ticket for each day. The biggest difference performance wise of each day has been that during the second portion of the live, they perform subunit songs on the first day and solo/duo songs during the second day. Only a handful of songs by the whole group are different from day 1 and 2. So that's something to consider if you only have the cash to buy one day. Of course they could mix it up and do something different for the final live.
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Trihugger posted:The biggest difference performance wise of each day has been that during the second portion of the live, they perform subunit songs on the first day and solo/duo songs during the second day. Only a handful of songs by the whole group are different from day 1 and 2. It's the final live. No half-assing it.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:It's the final live. No half-assing it.  Zepia
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whaaaaaaatt i just full combo'd an expert song during the challenge event that one i posted earlier with the powerful team: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YZSrDl-HPI I mean I think I got saved 1 good note by the power up thing cuz i only had 4 saves left at the end, but then that just means that I only got 1 good note  still that's a 9 star difficulty song, although it seems easier than the others. But still, it's expert. Feels like progress.
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I DID IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Also doing 3 Experts on the Challenge is better than doing 5 Hards, both in terms of points and possible prizes. I've gotten like 2 Golds and 6 Silvers off of like 12 (or 9?) Experts while a ton of Hards has net me like 5 Silvers. Oof. I almost just found out. My understanding is that you forfeit some but not all of your event points, but I'm not certain about the gold/silver/bronze prizes. If you think there's a good chance of failure, it's almost certainly best to back out.
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:Oof. I almost just found out. My understanding is that you forfeit some but not all of your event points, but I'm not certain about the gold/silver/bronze prizes. If you think there's a good chance of failure, it's almost certainly best to back out. Yeah, the first time I did Experts I got Trouble Buster on my 4th round and I'm pretty sure I failed that one normally so I didn't take the chance.
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Can someone tell me what these products are. https://fan-goods.jp/lovelive_6th/end.php
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It seems I've managed to theme my JP teams without really trying, beyond pulling from third year and BiBi boxes and perhaps being a bit more likely to turn lesser idols into seals. The NicoMaki Smile team:  The NozoEli Pure team:  The all my favorite idols Cool team: 
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Can someone tell me what these products are. poster I don't know maybe it's a glowstick? shirt "muffler towel", whatever that is wristband pompom subunit-themed fingerless gloves and mittens earmuffs rubber charm straps cat hoodie jacket duffel bag keychains pin knit cap sticker slap wristwatch pamphlet various things from a gacha machine, I think
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I just learned the event sometimes rewards you with more LP so that's cool.
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Allarion posted:I just learned the event sometimes rewards you with more LP so that's cool. Very strict requirements. Ending with full stamina and all 1st year bonuses (easiest to get). Others require you to FC or get S Scores.
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:poster Danke Can't Elope.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Very strict requirements. Yeah, I've just been playing normally. Looks like it's been rewarding me for S-ranking the score though.
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absolute nine is in the limited songs right now, do they usually do that
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Skwee posted:absolute nine is in the limited songs right now, do they usually do that It was a reward in the event if you scored high enough, I think.
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Allarion posted:It was a reward in the event if you scored high enough, I think. oh idk what i scored managed to FC pro my first try though cuz of playing it so much in the event.
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I think you get that at 5,000 points, fairly easy if you put in any effort (14 S-rank plays on Pro). Now to set aside 15 minutes to watch this story commu. e: 29,104th place, I definitely overdid it. Used all those innocent stamina drinks with the expectation that it was going to be 9 days. Polsy fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Zenostein posted:As for the bits about music, it's almost required that something like SS (and GF) focus mostly on image songs. Image songs for the most popular ones, in particular. That's how you get people to come play your game and buy your stuff, after all. Plus, as a practical matter you have to limit what you put in, because even if you just limited it to CG stuff, there's probably still a goddamn ton of music. Like, I don't think it's entirely a cashgrab when shiny festa is split into three different games. And like 2/3—5/6 of the tracks on each version are character/image/personal songs (there's some distinction there, apparently. It seems everyone there has image songs and then songs they're just sorta attached to or like), and then a few overlapping songs. Polsy posted:Agreed that the solo songs are often character songs, particularly so for their first song. It's interesting that you think it's bad, or at least not preferred, that they keep their character's voice when singing. In standard im@s, particularly, it would be a weird immersion break if they had a different voice on stage after you'd been talking to them in their character voice for 5 minutes, though that's not as applicable to CG/ML. Obviously this reasoning wouldn't carry over to LL which wasn't created as a game. I think sub-unit songs are probably what I like the most in theory, cause you don't hafta cram all members into a single song yet still ensure that each member of the unit gets to play a prominent part. I really like group songs that have the characters sing solo lines, like Start;Dash and BokuHika. Zenostein posted:As for your first point, I think maybe you're saying CG's music sounds more produced? That's what I took from your comment about effects and things. That's probably true, but I think that's fine. Mostly because I've made the mistake of clicking on videos for 1st lives of LL, IM@s (original flavor), and CG. They're kinda dire, in various ways. But mostly, they're rough in a way that can be smoothed over in a studio. On the other hand, unless I go out of my way, I'll have no idea what the hell these songs are about, so they're all blanket j-pop to me, regardless of what the sorta questionable lyrics are actually saying. Also I think everything in SIF could work in a DDR machine. It would be magical! Zenostein posted:Also, the song that you thought was soft, maybe this charming song by noted near-mute Chieri? Zenostein posted:Also, in regards to your terrifying abomination, I want, in helpful youtube search format, because nobody's been so helpful as to make a playlist. It is a Haruka song, in some manner or another. Either she likes it or it's a character song — either way, it makes as much sense on the surface for her as anyone else. Point being, it's great. It's not particularly idol-y, but it's great, no matter whose voice it is in. Then again, your example is from the SP PSP games — the shiny festa ones are more like a straight rhythm game, rather than any mix/matching you can do in the console/arcade games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxMdR1dyIwo Zenostein posted:All these words really just indicate how long I've had this goddamn post open. Terrible.
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it is a very nice and relaxing song. Well, of course I'd say that, most of my favorites are cute songs anyway Psychic Fire, on the other hand, is the sort of thing I'd probably drop in my eurobeat playlist that I sometimes put on when driving around.
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quote:(this was the age of ... the KOTOKO Princess Bride video ...) This is still really popular, but it's also #1 in the all-time im@s video ranking, so it feeds on itself to a certain extent. It's a little weird because you can find thousands of similarly well-done videos but I guess it was one of the first. Also wedding outfits. See also this, ascii art fans. Also also, I think I only posted this in the chat thread, but here's mildly popular fan character Kimo-Haruka crossing over with the Umaru OP, enjoy if you missed out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YapGJTcc2RA
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so i reached lvl 50 and got some song that wasn't tokimeki escalate. drat, i thought i was going to get tokimeki escalate. e: oh wait playing that song gave me a new commu right away, and I see Mika drat the game is just throwin songs at me now Skwee fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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I understand it but now I am sad. Polsy posted:This is still really popular, but it's also #1 in the all-time im@s video ranking, so it feeds on itself to a certain extent. It's a little weird because you can find thousands of similarly well-done videos but I guess it was one of the first. Also wedding outfits. See also this, ascii art fans.  And now I feel better. The ASCII one in particular is great. Man, that song just feels like a time when there were stepmania beatmaps showing up all over the place for everything. Weirdly nostalgic feeling for something I had no idea about. quote:Also also, I think I only posted this in the chat thread, but here's mildly popular fan character Kimo-Haruka crossing over with the Umaru OP, enjoy if you missed out This is worse than the kancolle that is a snail for whatever reason, I think. I mostly mean the kimo-haruka, but then I watched more and saw more “interpretations” of it and oh no.
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Zenostein posted:This is worse than the kancolle that is a snail for whatever reason, I think. I mostly mean the kimo-haruka, but then I watched more and saw more “interpretations” of it and oh no. Yeah, it's pretty baffling. I looked around a few other videos at the time and I guess the basic premise is it's the kind of cow thing you see at the start (it moos(?) in some other videos) but the further creatures based on it are bizarre.
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THEY ADDED ROCKIN' EMOTION I AM SUPER HAPPY
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Still haven't pulled Kaede... Am I gonna have to spend real dollars??
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Sonata Mused posted:Still haven't pulled Kaede... The other reason I used up a bunch of stamina drinks was to get enough star jewels for another shot at Miho. The result: I got one new (Cool) SR and nine old Rs.
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