HI, ID, MI, MS GOP AND DEM PRIMARIES MAR 8. 8pm ET - Trump just raised the steaks

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Rocks: Dec 30, 2011

Idaho has a threshold for 20% so Rubio might have gotten schlonged there too. just drat

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:12

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 05:28

A GIANT PARSNIP: Apr 13, 2010; Too much fuckin' eggnog

Schnorkles posted:

Movers and shakers in Idaho

lol

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:12

Emanuel Collective: Jan 16, 2008; by Smythe

Rocks posted:

Idaho has a threshold for 20% so Rubio might have gotten schlonged there too. just lol

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:13

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

A GIANT PARSNIP posted:

lol

every pond has a big fish.

even if the pond is filled with cow poo poo.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:13

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

HaroldofTheRock posted:

Cruz won Idaho because he has the courage to eat a booger on live TV. Trump needs to escalate.

a booger? you call that a booger? that was barely a tonsil stone. trump is going to eat the biggest booger. its gonna be fantastic picture it, the biggest ickiest booger you've ever seen. it's going to be fantastic, you're gonna love it.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:14

Bernice Anders: Feb 26, 2016; by zen death robot

Rocks posted:

Idaho has a threshold for 20% so Rubio might have gotten schlonged there too. just drat

"Oh b-big Donald, c-can I have just ONE delegate, please??"

"NO!"

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:14

Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

Question for Joementum or other legalese fans:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/ID-R

There's two different wildly different interpretations I can get out of these Idaho rules.

quote:

If one candidate wins more than 50% of the National Convention Delegates, that candidate receives all the National Convention Delegates. [Idaho Republican Party State Rules. Idaho Rules for Selection of Delegates to the National Convention and State Convention. Article VI. Section 3.(a)]
Otherwise, if at least 1 candidate receives 20% or more of the statewide vote, the National Conventions delegates are allocated proportionally to those candidates receiving 20% or more of the statewide vote. [Idaho Republican Party State Rules. Idaho Rules for Selection of Delegates to the National Convention and State Convention. Article VI. Section 3.(b)]
Otherwise, National Conventions delegates are allocated proportionally. [Idaho Republican Party State Rules. Idaho Rules for Selection of Delegates to the National Convention and State Convention. Article VI. Section 3.(b)]

Is this:

A. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump

or

B. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates would have split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump, which means that Cruz received over 50% of National Convention Delegates, which in turn means he wins 32-0?

I have a feeling that we'll be hearing a LOT about this wording dispute.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:14

A GIANT PARSNIP: Apr 13, 2010; Too much fuckin' eggnog

Rocks posted:

Idaho has a threshold for 20% so Rubio might have gotten schlonged there too. just drat

if the current percents stand Trump will be a few delegates over his target in idaho according to the perpetually wrong 538

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:15

Yoshifan823: Feb 19, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Rocks posted:

Idaho has a threshold for 20% so Rubio might have gotten schlonged there too. just drat

yaaaaaaaaaay!

I can't wait to see if he's gonna swing a Hawaii victory as a great night.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:15

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

Rocks posted:

Idaho has a threshold for 20% so Rubio might have gotten schlonged there too. just drat

2016 owns so hard

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:15

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

This is all going to culminate in Trump sucking his own dick on live TV

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:15

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Patter Song posted:

Question for Joementum or other legalese fans:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/ID-R

There's two different wildly different interpretations I can get out of these Idaho rules.

Is this:

A. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump

or

B. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates would have split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump, which means that Cruz received over 50% of National Convention Delegates, which in turn means he wins 32-0?

I have a feeling that we'll be hearing a LOT about this wording dispute.

I think this is actually B.

No, never mind. I think you have to win outright, because the "otherwise" comes into play because Cruz doesn't outright win 50%. Then the delegates are initially allocated and then the viability threshold happens.

Schnorkles has issued a correction as of 06:18 on Mar 9, 2016

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:16

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

Patter Song posted:

Question for Joementum or other legalese fans:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/ID-R

There's two different wildly different interpretations I can get out of these Idaho rules.

Is this:

A. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump

or

B. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates would have split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump, which means that Cruz received over 50% of National Convention Delegates, which in turn means he wins 32-0?

I have a feeling that we'll be hearing a LOT about this wording dispute.

They left it purposely vague so people would pay attention to them

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:16

Immortan: Jun 6, 2015; by Shine

NYT just called Idaho for Cruz :suicide:

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:17

Plinkey: Aug 4, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Patter Song posted:

There's two different wildly different interpretations I can get out of these Idaho rules.

This is like when you're in study group and everyone gets the same answer but everyone did it differently and you're all wrong.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:17

A GIANT PARSNIP: Apr 13, 2010; Too much fuckin' eggnog

Patter Song posted:

Question for Joementum or other legalese fans:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/ID-R

There's two different wildly different interpretations I can get out of these Idaho rules.

Is this:

A. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump

or

B. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates would have split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump, which means that Cruz received over 50% of National Convention Delegates, which in turn means he wins 32-0?

I have a feeling that we'll be hearing a LOT about this wording dispute.

it's A, a bunch of states with the same rules have already voted and many of them would have been winner take all under the interpretation of B

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:17

Abugadu: Jul 12, 2004; 1st Sgt. Matthews and the men have Procured for me a cummerbund from a traveling gypsy, who screeched Victory shall come at a Terrible price. i am Honored.

Patter Song posted:

Fun* fact! Until 2007, the Northern Marianas Islands had A. looser immigration laws than the rest of the United States, B. A minimum wage one half that of the rest of the country, and C. extremely loose labor laws. This opened up a colossal loophole where corporations could set up sweatshop factories, import cheap labor, abuse them under horrible conditions with extremely low wages, and sell the goods in the US with a proud "Made in the USA" tag on it with absolutely no trade barriers. Since 2007 the minimum wage has reached US levels, immigration has been normalized, all the sweatshops have shut down, and the Northern Marianas Islands have declared bankruptcy.

*Not actually fun

CNMI didn't declare bankruptcy, it's pension fund did.

And while the sweatshop stuff is all true, (Thanks Jack Abramoff!), The economic collapse after 2007 wasn't just shutting down the sweatshops, at nearly the exact same time the CNMI chopped off two of its other economic legs; they attempted to raise taxes on airlines, resulting in Japan Airlines pulling out of the CNMI entirely (dropping tourism revenue drastically, I'd guess maybe 60-70%), and attempted to raise taxes on the US Military docking their ships, which resulted in the military parking all its pre-positioning ships a mile out to sea.

They have zero valuable natural resources other than their tourism and strategic military location. Flights to/from the Philippines were slashed after changes were made to the law that required testing for Nurses in the US to have to be taken in the US, so that mini-pipeline was shut down. Immigration control was forced upon them by the feds because too many shady Russians/Chinese were using it as an entry point.

I'm not going to even touch the political mess that exists there.

It has Problems. And the US has to stick by them due to the military significance of the location.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:17

lamentable dustman: Apr 13, 2007; ððð

msnbc is getting weird why am i still up

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:18

XboxPants: Jan 30, 2006; Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Schnorkles posted:

So...

Just a quick thing why Cruz winning Idaho is a big deal.

Movers and shakers in Idaho [and utah (mormons)] have been all about Rubio. Big Endorsements, lots of money, a significant amount of gentle urging at church on Sunday. Rubio collapsing in Idaho means that he's lost the predominant culture in parts of Idaho/Utah/Arizona.

He's done, basically. And Idaho was the fork in it.

Was he... was he really not 100% done yet? Wasn't he coming in last place behind Kasich on Subpar Sunday?

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:18

Bernice Anders: Feb 26, 2016; by zen death robot

Patter Song posted:

Question for Joementum or other legalese fans:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/ID-R

There's two different wildly different interpretations I can get out of these Idaho rules.

Is this:

A. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump

or

B. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates would have split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump, which means that Cruz received over 50% of National Convention Delegates, which in turn means he wins 32-0?

I have a feeling that we'll be hearing a LOT about this wording dispute.

It's A. CNN already has 9 delegates to Trump.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:18

A GIANT PARSNIP: Apr 13, 2010; Too much fuckin' eggnog

note the word "otherwise", and the lack of "50%" after that word

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:19

Nanomashoes: Aug 18, 2012

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:19

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

XboxPants posted:

Was he... was he really not 100% done yet? Wasn't he coming in last place behind Kasich on Subpar Sunday?

He was done, this was just the proverbial fork.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:20

Immortan: Jun 6, 2015; by Shine

Does Trump have a chance in Hawaii or is that Rubio territory?

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:20

Hollismason: Jun 30, 2007; An alright dude.

This is great news overall though for Trump. Him winning big in Mi was great too.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:21

Chef Boyardeez Nuts: Sep 9, 2011; The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

I live in a state where the plurality of my neighbors look at Ted Cruz and say "Yep, I'll have me some of that!"

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:21

Dilbert As FUCK: Sep 8, 2007; by Cowcaster; Pillbug

Immortan posted:

Does Trump have a chance in Hawaii or is that Rubio territory?

Who knows, this night has been fun though

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:22

Lycus: Aug 5, 2008; Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

So Kasichmentum was bullcrap after all.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:23

Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

Immortan posted:

Does Trump have a chance in Hawaii or is that Rubio territory?

Short answer is nobody knows, there's so few Republicans in Hawaii that it's impossible to tell what such a small sample size would want.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:23

Bernice Anders: Feb 26, 2016; by zen death robot

Nanomashoes posted:

Can't blame 538 for this one when every poll was wrong.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:23

oystertoadfish: Jun 17, 2003

Immortan posted:

Does Trump have a chance in Hawaii or is that Rubio territory?

ive been assuming so, purely for the pleasure of making an rear end of u

but iono they have some mormons and evangelicals too, maybe they'll vote for cruz

the actual hawai'ians itt have i think guessed that the small, establishment-minded, 'moderate' in scare quotes style of republican there would fall in line behind rubio. but maybe events have overtaken that interpretation

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:23

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Subterfrugal posted:

I live in a state where the plurality of my neighbors look at Ted Cruz and say "Yep, I'll have me some of that!"

Cruz is getting really popular in mormon land.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:23

Bernice Anders: Feb 26, 2016; by zen death robot

Lycus posted:

So Kasichmentum was bullcrap after all.

Uh Hawaii hasn't even voted yet???

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:24

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

Lycus posted:

So Kasichmentum was bullcrap after all.

nobody, not even republicans, want to drink an entire gallon of blended alfalfa in one sitting

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:24

Jewel Repetition: Dec 24, 2012; Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Patter Song posted:

Question for Joementum or other legalese fans:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/ID-R

There's two different wildly different interpretations I can get out of these Idaho rules.

Is this:

A. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump

or

B. Trump and Cruz are the only two candidates who qualify for delegates, delegates would have split ~19 Cruz 13 Trump, which means that Cruz received over 50% of National Convention Delegates, which in turn means he wins 32-0?

I have a feeling that we'll be hearing a LOT about this wording dispute.

It's A by convention. The Idaho GOP could make it B if they wanted because of the wording but it would cause a stink.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:25

Harlock: Jan 15, 2006; Tap "A" to drink!!!

Lyin Ted told Hawaii voters Rubio dropped out

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:25

Nanomashoes: Aug 18, 2012

Bernice Anders posted:

Can't blame 538 for this one when every poll was wrong.

Nah, not really, but I think it's funny.
I can blame the Very Smart People on twitter that pulled the wool over Harry Enten's eyes though.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:26

oystertoadfish: Jun 17, 2003

greenpapers is estimating 19-13 cruz-trump as far as idaho delegates go, so that's not such a big dent in the end. minor narrative boost for the wax golem

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:26

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

lamentable dustman posted:

msnbc is getting weird why am i still up

You're up watching MSNBC because it gets weird. There is no shame in this. Brian Williams ad-libbing is awesome.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:27

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Rocks: Dec 30, 2011

Immortan posted:

Does Trump have a chance in Hawaii or is that Rubio territory?

I live here and I have no loving clue. here's my stances on why anyone could win:

Kasich : moderate , probably would appeal to most Hawaiians (but no one knows who he is and he didn't advertise here)

Trump: high turnout of enthusiastic supporters (theres a distrust of the fed government here too , and Bernie is playing well too)

Rubio: generally like able, plus actually tried to get votes by bringing surrogates and had ads on

Cruz: large Mormon population means turnout for the evangelical

I could honestly make a case for anyone. FYI one of the senators was a Carson supporter and now a Cruz supporter, and the other one took an "anyone but Trump" stance.

in conclusion: who loving knows.

# ? Mar 9, 2016 06:27

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