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SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

WhyteRyce posted:

What would Rubio do if Cruz just surprised nominated him for his VP during the debate
Rubio does not crave power. Rubio craves respect. There is no respect in being the Vice President of Ted Cruz.

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Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug

Stereotype posted:

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/31404258/hawaii-republican-caucus-to-take-place-tuesday

Midnight. So in like 4 hours. Plus they expect like 30% of the ballots to be provisional that wont be counted for a few more days so you might just want to go to sleep.

This is Hawaii, they aren't going to stay up all night loving about with nonsense.

All I wanted to see was just a few results before bed

Bernice Anders
Feb 26, 2016

by zen death robot

Dilbert As gently caress posted:

All I wanted to see was just a few results before bed

2% is in! It's Trump 31 Cruz 17 !!

Votes that is!

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

WhyteRyce posted:

What county is that in??

Holland

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Bhaal posted:

Ah thanks, I must have mixed up the GOP/DEM rules for MI, then.

My facebook is exploding with bernie fans talking this up as a coup, but I was like "it's a net of 7 delegates over Hillary..." so I thought I might be missing something.

I prefer Bernie over Hillary, and am glad he's doing better than expected, but I don't see him doing more than a respectable 2nd place at this point, with the knock-on benefits of maybe bumping the Overton window, etc.

This is the right way to look at it. The fact that a self-proclaimed socialist, a geriatric Jew from Vermont, has gone up against a First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State with near-unanimous party figure backing and won nine states against her is absolutely stunning.

He is not going to win the nomination, but you can bet Hillary Clinton never expected this primary to be competitive at all. It's forced her to really reach out to Democratic voters in her core constituencies.

One of the knock-on benefits of this is that Hillary Clinton now owes the African-American community, especially poor Southern African-Americans, a colossal debt. They've single-handedly bailed her Presidential campaign out. Politicians know which side their bread is buttered on and HRC is well aware of that constituency's needs and priorities.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Hollismason posted:

I swear I thought the big island was called something else and all together it was Hawaii.

kamehameha took over the whole island chain from his base in hawaii and kinda extended the name to the rest of it, is what a quick google indicates

the big island is so chill. verna's, hilo, kilauea, this one girl i met at the FE exam in virginia who was from there who didnt want to go out with me, the big island is a special place

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

yeah they call it a caucus, but every voter gets a paper ballot and fills it out, and those ballots have to be counted. this might take a while

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Bernice Anders posted:

2% is in! It's Trump 31 Cruz 17 !!

Votes that is!

lol thanks kauai county. i wonder if it's kaua'i or ni'ihau that gave us these results

edit: just fyi the big island is in fact the biggest island in the usa, followed by kodiak island and puerto rico

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Rubio does not crave power. Rubio craves respect. There is no respect in being the Vice President of Ted Cruz.

Respect, yes. Rubio also, blatantly, craves wealth, something almost all his rivals have in massive quantities but he never has. Rubio's probably the most obvious case of "loving off to become a lobbyist making 2 million a year" we could have at this point.

Remember, Marco Rubio is A. a person who racked up six-digit personal expenses on a Florida Republican Party credit card and claimed he mixed up which card was which and B. only paid off his student loans in 2015 despite getting a million dollar fee for his book. Rubio has expensive tastes and I think he's desperate to start living it up.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
If I recall, he was the poorest Senator (because of all that loving debt).

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I'm actually pretty shocked how poornot rich some of the senators are though

Pick has issued a correction as of 07:37 on Mar 9, 2016

archaeo
Nov 5, 2009

may the power of Hecate compel you
lol 4% reporting and its 150 votes total.

also Rubio on track to a 4th place win

4th is the new 3rd!

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Trump leading by so much it'll probably hold, unless different areas of Hawaii have wildly different ideologies, which is possible.

Anorexic Robot
Nov 11, 2012
Dont ever expect people in hawaii to do anything fast

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
I'm getting reports Trump owns a bunch of buildings in Hawaii just like he did in Nevada but I'm not sure how much that actually helps him.

archaeo
Nov 5, 2009

may the power of Hecate compel you
ok 8% in and its still only 250 votes in total - that's weirding me out a bit.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Jewel Repetition posted:

Trump leading by so much it'll probably hold, unless different areas of Hawaii have wildly different ideologies, which is possible.

Trump is leading by a massive margin of 64.

Not 64%.

64 votes.

Also, all the votes reporting are from Kauai. Wait for Oahu.

Anorexic Robot
Nov 11, 2012

Jewel Repetition posted:

I'm getting reports Trump owns a bunch of buildings in Hawaii just like he did in Nevada but I'm not sure how much that actually helps him.

If the japanese tourists could vote it would be a lock for him

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

even by hawaiian precinct standards im guessing that 218 votes from 2 precincts is on the low end, vote/precinct-wise. like, presumably there are at least a few thousand republicans in honolulu. so im guessing this poo poo doesnt matter

edit: oh poo poo it updated! i bet these are some of the most rural precincts in the whole drat state, hence the incredibly low vote/precinct ratio. that's generally the first ones to report, especially if it's about some volunteer or three counting paper ballots

it does shake my fake faith in rubio tho

the thing is, it's not 8% of total votes, it's 8% of precincts. some precincts in this country have a few hundred people living in their area, some have tens of thousands, i think. so it's unlikely that the total vote will be as low as it looks right now

oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 07:40 on Mar 9, 2016

Bernice Anders
Feb 26, 2016

by zen death robot

archaeo posted:

ok 8% in and its still only 250 votes in total - that's weirding me out a bit.

Yeah didn't know there were that many Republicans in Hawaii.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
NY Times says everyone who's won Hawaii this century has gotten the nomination. In both parties.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
Dammit, my last post missed two precincts each on Oahu and Maui.

Up to 6/45 now.

This looks really good for Trump at this point.

I love how Maui has 2/7 precincts in and not even 50 voters combined.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Jewel Repetition posted:

NY Times says everyone who's won Hawaii this century has gotten the nomination. In both parties.

who cares, this election is all wack

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Patter Song posted:

Dammit, my last post missed two precincts each on Oahu and Maui.

Up to 6/45 now.

This looks really good for Trump at this point.

I love how Maui has 2/7 precincts in and not even 50 voters combined.

i wouldnt be surprised if these were some of the small islands in the counties, like if all the republicans on moloka'i got together, took some bong hits, and voted trump while literal hundreds are waiting to vote in honolulu

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
They're saying 30k turned out in Hawaii.

RedQueen
Apr 21, 2007

It takes all the running you can do just to stay in the same place.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/states/hawaii

2012 Republican Hawaii had about 10k voters so I'm not sure why the 2016 totals are low thus far

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

Patter Song posted:

This is the right way to look at it. The fact that a self-proclaimed socialist, a geriatric Jew from Vermont, has gone up against a First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State with near-unanimous party figure backing and won nine states against her is absolutely stunning.

He is not going to win the nomination, but you can bet Hillary Clinton never expected this primary to be competitive at all. It's forced her to really reach out to Democratic voters in her core constituencies.

One of the knock-on benefits of this is that Hillary Clinton now owes the African-American community, especially poor Southern African-Americans, a colossal debt. They've single-handedly bailed her Presidential campaign out. Politicians know which side their bread is buttered on and HRC is well aware of that constituency's needs and priorities.

:lol: if you think Hilldawg will do a goddamned thing for the community

archaeo
Nov 5, 2009

may the power of Hecate compel you
yeah these initial numbers are pretty meaningless.

Rubio stop elbowing in on Kasichmentum!

SNAKES N CAKES
Sep 6, 2005

DAVID GAIDER
Lead Writer

RedQueen posted:

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/states/hawaii

2012 Republican Hawaii had about 10k voters so I'm not sure why the 2016 totals are low thus far

Tiny caucus locations finishing up first.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

i think its the most rural precincts

like how many people you think live on the eastern-rear end end of moloka'i in precinct #5
http://files.hawaii.gov/elections/files/maps/electionmaps/ISLAND_OF_MOLOKAI.pdf

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

it'd be pretty gross if the most diverse state in the country, with a ton of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants (dating back to the plantation era) voted for trump, even in the dumb republican primary. doubt it happens tho

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

archaeo posted:

ok 8% in and its still only 250 votes in total - that's weirding me out a bit.

10,000ish total voters?

The %s have to be precincts though.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

the great majority of hawai'ian precincts are on this map
http://files.hawaii.gov/elections/files/maps/electionmaps/ISLAND_OF_OAHU.pdf
i bet the ones in real places with people living in them haven't reported yet

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

Jewel Repetition posted:

NY Times says everyone who's won Hawaii this century has gotten the nomination. In both parties.

So... GWBush and Obama?

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Jewel Repetition posted:

NY Times says everyone who's won Hawaii this century has gotten the nomination. In both parties.

The best part of this election (hopefully) will be the death of these stupid stats.

Top Bunk Wanker
Jan 31, 2005

Top Trump Anger

Gyges posted:

Donald Trump would not disavow David Duke and the KKK. His bullshit about earpieces and not knowing who David Duke was are totally bullshit. He talked about David Duke being a racist that drove him from the Reform Party on camera years and years ago.

He loudly and unequivocally disavowed David Duke, the KKK, and hate groups in general in absolutely unambiguous terms both before and after that single interview. If you're not being deliberately disingenuous, saying "I'd have to look into the groups you're naming first" is a completely reasonable answer to a statement like "even if you don't know about their endorsement, there are these groups and individuals endorsing you."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y1Uh5T57SI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLukCE3vwwA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLZd3hWfIqk

SNAKES N CAKES
Sep 6, 2005

DAVID GAIDER
Lead Writer

Plinkey posted:

The best part of this election (hopefully) will be the death of these stupid stats.

The only way to get rid of all of them is to nominate Paul Ryan at the convention.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
FEEL FREE TO DISREGARD THIS POST

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
Wow, Trump got really thrashed in Idaho.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
Up to 8 precincts out of 45, 2 in each of Hawaii's 4 counties.

Trump is up everywhere. Of course, there's still under 1,000 votes counted.

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Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
https://twitter.com/BlueThunder808/status/707457050180198400

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