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Doesn't TT also reward putting far more weapons than you can reasonably fire with a reduction in BV due to inefficient heat ratio?
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Coolwhoami posted:Doesn't TT also reward putting far more weapons than you can reasonably fire with a reduction in BV due to inefficient heat ratio? Yes that was one of the weaknesses, people would load down on small lasers to tank their heat efficiency and then put in something like a gauss rifle, or two.
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Mar 9, 2016 17:58
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I have the feeling that in the last few weeks the number of goon players in the europe-time decreased somewhat. I can hardly find any GIRLs on Mumble during weekdays.
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Mar 9, 2016 18:43
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Onkel Hedwig posted:I have the feeling that in the last few weeks the number of goon players in the europe-time decreased somewhat. Well, The Division just launched, so I could see that eating into peoples game time. Same story with XCom 2.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:06
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Cyrano4747 posted:Well, The Division just launched, so I could see that eating into peoples game time. Same story with XCom 2. I've been playing a lot of Rocket League, which is fun no matter how good or bad you are.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:12
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BDO also launched but I'm probably the only one playing it here
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Astroniomix posted:Yes that was one of the weaknesses, people would load down on small lasers to tank their heat efficiency and then put in something like a gauss rifle, or two. but that's a problem with people breaking the system to basically cheat their opponent. It's not really an issue that stock or even reasonable optimized custom builds would have. As for the PPC changes, the most welcome news there is the idea of overhauling the heat scale. Just so long as we don't return to the days of poptart snipers, I welcome an improvement in PPC performance. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Mar 9, 2016 19:20
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A.o.D. posted:but that's a problem with people breaking the system to basically cheat their opponent. It's not really an issue that stock or even reasonable optimized custom builds would have. Currently the shadowcat is just a fun toy, you can still manage some really high damage rounds with 2 ppc's and poptarting. If they make PPC's actually good then there will be every incentive to start doing it for real...
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A.o.D. posted:but that's a problem with people breaking the system to basically cheat their opponent. It's not really an issue that stock or even reasonable optimized custom builds would have. The #1 fix they could implement to make PPCs not terrible would be either eliminating or softening minimum range. A variable damage negation rather than a strict zero inside a certain range would work.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:42
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But then it's not true to table top!
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Drythe posted:But then it's not true to table top! It already isn't. Table top minimum ranges for PPCs just gave you a shittier to-hit, and plenty of other weapons had them as well. AC 2 and AC 5 most notably as far as this game is concerned. It's not like a mech inside 3 hexes away was totally immune to your PPCs.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:48
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Look, you cant eliminate the minimum range because
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Washout posted:Currently the shadowcat is just a fun toy, you can still manage some really high damage rounds with 2 ppc's and poptarting. If they make PPC's actually good then there will be every incentive to start doing it for real... You can do some opportunistic swarm brawling with it. If you compare the shadowcat to the stormcrow, you can build a stormcrow with 4 SPL+4SRM6A, or you could build a shadow cat with 2 SPL+3SRM6A (less one missile and two SPLs) in exchange for MASC, ECM, and six jump jets in a smaller profile. It's still a 48 damage alpha in a frail package, but between your ECM and your burst speed you can hang around and jump in alongside the larger mechs and do plenty of work. LPLS/PPCs, in contrast, are a lot worse at actually opening fresh people up and killing them if the two are all you have to work with. Having to shoot an assault five/six times in the CT just to strip armor - versus hitting internal structure on the third alpha with the missile build - is a pretty tremendous difference.
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Hey nerds. I just got back for the night before I go out again for ten more days. Let me know if there was anything that needs to be added/edited to the OP. Also tell me the juicy stuff because I'm too lazy to read four pages.
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Olesh posted:You can do some opportunistic swarm brawling with it. If you compare the shadowcat to the stormcrow, you can build a stormcrow with 4 SPL+4SRM6A, or you could build a shadow cat with 2 SPL+3SRM6A (less one missile and two SPLs) in exchange for MASC, ECM, and six jump jets in a smaller profile. It's still a 48 damage alpha in a frail package, but between your ECM and your burst speed you can hang around and jump in alongside the larger mechs and do plenty of work. Yeah right now the sniper SCH is more opportunistic than the others I think the chassis as a whole is a lot better than folks give it credit for, although the massive CT is still an issue
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Anita Dickinme posted:Hey nerds. I just got back for the night before I go out again for ten more days. Let me know if there was anything that needs to be added/edited to the OP. Russ and Paul are still retards. Pubbies still only know how to lrm and snipe from 800 meters. There, you're all caught up.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:59
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Ghost heat 2.0 also
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Anita Dickinme posted:Hey nerds. I just got back for the night before I go out again for ten more days. Let me know if there was anything that needs to be added/edited to the OP. Could add Warhammer and Rifleman summaries: WARHAMMER (70 tons) Above-average heavy which can dish out serviceable laservomit or dakka. Reasonably tough. Probably not as good as the Black Knight for now RIFLEMAN (60 tons) Similar to the Jagermech, but five tons lighter. Somewhat fragile, but high mounts give it good opportunities for laser-heavy builds or some ballistics. and maybe predictions for unreleased 'mechs: ARCHER (70 tons) Missile-focused IS heavy. One variant has nine missile slots and will likely be a high-risk/high-reward SRM brawler. Others will mix missiles and lasers. Will be incredibly quirk-dependent KODIAK (100 tons) Clan BattleMech with a 400XL engine that lets it run at almost 70 KPH. Hero variant will be a clan Atlas and can run at 90 KPH for a short period of time with MASC. A lot will depend on where mounts are located, but it has a strong possibility of being better than the Dire Wolf PHOENIX HAWK (45 tons) Agile IS medium -- one version with MASC can run at almost 170 KPH. PHX-1K and PHX-2 are likely best variants -- one can do medium-range laservomit, the other can mount 6 MPLs with ECM
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Drythe posted:But then it's not true to table top! PPCs do damage in minimum range all the time. All 'minimum range' in Tabletop means is that it's harder to track targets with them, not that they do no damage. Since pubbies already can't hit things at close range, PPCs would be fine if they did full damage point-blank.
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Drythe posted:Look, you cant eliminate the minimum range because Because the guy who coded it quit and they dont have any documentation on how to remove that feature. 
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Mar 9, 2016 20:51
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I want to chain fire so many PPC's. Making them have no minimum could be hilarous for an Awesome.
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Pattonesque posted:I've been playing a lot of Rocket League, which is fun no matter how good or bad you are. Is that "Chivers" channel on mumble for Rocket League with goons?
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Wanna know the Archer quirks. It's a week away. Those laser/missile variants might end up good brawlers. All mega-dependent on the quirks.
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veedubfreak posted:Russ and Paul are still retards.  Pattonesque posted:KODIAK (100 tons)  That sounds amazing. IS finally having another medium with ECM seems about right. Thanks.
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Anita Dickinme posted:
Yeah, even with no quirks it's going to be the best clan assault. The art shows the weapon placement is much the same as the atlas, and being able to break cover and rush a firing line at 90kph will cut down on the ability to get focused down. The spread out nature of the clan AC's delivery means it'll probably be more difficult to twist with, and it will also likely end up using energy as part of most loadouts, so heat will be an issue, but it should be solid.
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EoRaptor posted:Yeah, even with no quirks it's going to be the best clan assault. The art shows the weapon placement is much the same as the atlas, and being able to break cover and rush a firing line at 90kph will cut down on the ability to get focused down. lbx20. Unless there's a heatsink in the torso also.
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veedubfreak posted:lbx20. Unless there's a heatsink in the torso also. It's a clan battlemech, not an omnimech. No locked equipment.
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Drythe posted:BDO also launched but I'm probably the only one playing it here bad dragon online? beta invites pls
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Banano posted:bad dragon online? ummm.... is this a game involving custom dildos and fur suits?
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DiHK posted:ummm.... is this a game involving custom dildos and fur suits? OP, new title request.
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DiHK posted:ummm.... is this a game involving custom dildos and fur suits? Every game is, if you're dedicated enough.
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You've seen the video of the guy loving R2D2? That, but with an urban mech.
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I didn't even know this even was going on... https://mwomercs.com/tournaments?t=201603potofgold There is also the MC phase 1 thing where you get a mechbay for buying the cheapest amount of MC. The Repo Man fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Mar 10, 2016 |
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Onkel Hedwig posted:Is that "Chivers" channel on mumble for Rocket League with goons? Yes. It's basically Ohsh's channel for all your racing and car/cart needs.
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I should have bought a Hellbringer earlier, holy poo poo.
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Banano posted:bad dragon online? DiHK posted:ummm.... is this a game involving custom dildos and fur suits? yes
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Why is the Orion IIC so bad? It looks like you could put a good brawling loadout on it at least
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Surprise Giraffe posted:Why is the Orion IIC so bad? It looks like you could put a good brawling loadout on it at least it doesn't quite have enough speed or armor to make it work.
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The Repo Man posted:I didn't even know this even was going on... I was actually kind of interested in it until I read that the rewards maxed out at 2m cbills. Pass.
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