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Rick_Hunter posted:As garish as the decor is I still think they look like a cute couple in the former picture and hope I can look the same in 40 years. They were awful people but they were also 100% gaga for each other. A match made in Hell really.
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Can you imagine what Trump would be like at a UN conference or during some kind of diplomatic meeting? His successors would have to spend the next five hundred years cleaning up after him.
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I too believe in the genuine sincerity of two hollywood actors, one of which is Ronald loving Reagan.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I too believe in the genuine sincerity of two hollywood actors, one of which is Ronald loving Reagan. Bill Murray for President.
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Star Man posted:Can you imagine what Trump would be like at a UN conference or during some kind of diplomatic meeting? His successors would have to spend the next five hundred years cleaning up after him. I think Trevor Noah hit it on the head when he pointed out Trump is American Qaddafi.
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Mar 10, 2016 05:37
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Star Man posted:Can you imagine what Trump would be like at a UN conference or during some kind of diplomatic meeting? His successors would have to spend the next five hundred years cleaning up after him. We'd have to invent a scale of international incidents per minute for Trump "diplomacy".
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Mar 10, 2016 05:57
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Night10194 posted:I think Trevor Noah hit it on the head when he pointed out Trump is American Qaddafi. That was something that I had in mind too. Speaking of Gaddafi, here's a picture of Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State with Gadaffi's son:  I could see Trump wearing something just as tasteless to a conference.
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Mar 10, 2016 07:07
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Now, it's been a while since I went to a funeral but... shouldn't you be invited in the first place?
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Mar 10, 2016 07:56
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I too believe in the genuine sincerity of two hollywood actors, one of which is Ronald loving Reagan. Well come on, we know he was bad at his job.
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Mar 10, 2016 08:09
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That's the one that got assassinated, right?
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Night10194 posted:I think Trevor Noah hit it on the head when he pointed out Trump is American Qaddafi. Good point but Qaddafi didn't have nuclear weapons and his economic power was almost insignificant compared to the nations he insulted.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Bill Murray for President. I'd vote for him! Still better than Donald loving Trump...
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icantfindaname posted:A whole lot or even most, I would say. Open defiance of Reagan-Thatcher movement conservatism is a real and growing ideological undercurrent, I think. The bigots were sold a bill of goods by Reagan and Bush and are finally fed up Didn't Reagan believe or act like he believed his was the last generation before the Rapture? The Evangelical movement already has a contingency, if not the outright wish for the Apocalypse and by god they've waited several thousand years for someone like Trump to finally bring it about.
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Mar 10, 2016 11:19
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ErIog posted:
The Howells in a Gilligan Isle where everyone is Gilligan.
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Crabtree posted:Didn't Reagan believe or act like he believed his was the last generation before the Rapture? The Evangelical movement already has a contingency, if not the outright wish for the Apocalypse and by god they've waited several thousand years for someone like Trump to finally bring it about. When your choices are deal with the consequences of your actions or hope that the apocalypse comes, the second option is chosen depressingly often. It's the ultimate in self-absorbed thinking, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were at least subconsciously motivating a lot of right wing thinking.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:It has nothing to do with Reagan and everything to do with Obama. Pretty much every incidental thing Obama does or doesn't do is an offense to these people, no matter how many other presidents did or didn't do those exact same things. Yeah but that doesn't explain why people are going to Trump with this grievance instead of the standard orthodox movement conservative
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icantfindaname posted:Yeah but that doesn't explain why people are going to Trump with this grievance instead of the standard orthodox movement conservative The orthodox has failed to give them the privalage and power they were promised, so they're flocking to Big Daddy Trump who promises to attack the orthodox and everything else they hate. As far as they're concerned, he's already the boss.
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Apparently Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic did a pretty in-depth interview with Obama about the foreign policy challenges he's faced as President. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but noted Reasonable Conservative David Frum is getting the vapours over it on Twitter. Some of the parts he's flipping out over are pretty telling:David Frum posted:Prediction: the whole world will in the next few hours be talking about @JeffreyGoldberg ’s interviews with President Obama. quote:Advice: don’t read this piece until your coffee is securely returned to the tabletop. You will spill it otherwise. quote:Obama does offer some self-criticism: He failed to make sufficient allowance for how irrational other people are quote:Among many reveals: Obama does not see why US should still guarantee Israel’s qualitative military edge. Explosive. quote:Obama came to office promising to mend alliances. Leaves offices insulting important allies by name. quote:Oh also, Obama even now believes that Netanyahu cd achieve a 2-state solution if only he wanted to. All N’s fault!
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Ahahahhaah get hosed Frum Obama messed up with the red line but aside from that he's basically been foreign policy Jesus compared to Frum and his cabal of crooks, cranks and traitors
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Hmmm, why might Obama hate Netanyahu, a foreign leader who has consistently tried to meddle in our politics and actively supported the president's political enemies? It's a mystery why there might be personal animosity.
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That Obama article was seriously fascinating (also an hour long read, brace yourselves). Essentially, an adjective used to describe Obama a whole lot in the article is "Spockian"; that he exercises extreme caution with military intervention, is skeptical of their utility either as problem-solvers or as ways to maintain American "credibility", and that he's wary of the "Tribalism" that often is motivation for its use. The impression I got from it is that Obama is basically single-handedly holding back a lot of America's worst foreign-policy impulses, which I found both very impressive and kind of terrifying.
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Mar 10, 2016 16:15
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Didn't Frum write a long rear end article lamenting the lack of Obama's class or something in the 2016 crop of candidates
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Dabir posted:Well come on, we know he was bad at his job. He was a great actor! He even managed to keep a straight face when he said he'd reduce government spending.
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Geostomp posted:The orthodox has failed to give them the privalage and power they were promised, so they're flocking to Big Daddy Trump who promises to attack the orthodox and everything else they hate. As far as they're concerned, he's already the boss. Also the fringe that now is the base was heavily pollinated with 9/11 truthers and unfortunately for the establishment, bringing a bush into the mix will only set off conspiracy theorists. The problem likely isn't so much they finally know the hand that takes on Fox isn't their friend, its that they allowed another option like trump to present itself and then fester without immediately being rooted out by the ones the suits supposedly want. They basically hosed themselves by finding out how loyal a hungry and abused dog really is.
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Another day, another assault at a Trump rally: http://gawker.com/trump-supporter-sucker-punches-protestor-at-north-carol-1764017993 How is it the victims are the ones getting arrested and escorted out. I get that Trump supporters are racist, violent garbagepeople, but how is no one getting prosecuted for this?
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Mar 10, 2016 17:13
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The justice system treats people differently based on their skin color.
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Levantine posted:Another day, another assault at a Trump rally: http://gawker.com/trump-supporter-sucker-punches-protestor-at-north-carol-1764017993 quote:Hopefully, people can recognize the racist with a ponytail from North Carolina. Yeh. That totally narrows it down to a very small pool of suspects... ...I can say that, I'm from NC.
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As someone who lives in NC, that protester had what was coming to him because he didn't get the gently caress out of Fayetteville as soon as he possibly could. I'm joking about the victim blaming, but Fayetteville (Fayettnam to the locals) is a a dumpster on fire rolling down 5 flights of stairs.
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I guess I'm just genuinely disgusted that media is treating that as normal and it takes a trash clickbait site like Gawker to go "hey, maybe this is hosed up". How can anyone look at that chain of events and still feel there's no racism in America?
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Easy willing ignorance or "I'm not safe if I, A openly racist cracker, walk into a black neighborhood. You should know not to walk into an outright open den of White Nationalists". But I'm sure the media will be there when Trump loses and "patriots" take their anger out in the streets.
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The media at large has been pretty in on the idea that when white people get angry and start poo poo it's just a bit of fun or they have legitimate grievances in the case of the tea party. Minorities getting beat up at a presidential candidate's rallies aren't going to make them risk losing access by doing the right thing and maybe acknowledging that saying we are a post racial society because we elected Obama was somewhat premature especially since these are specifically the people that voted against him.
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Levantine posted:I guess I'm just genuinely disgusted that media is treating that as normal and it takes a trash clickbait site like Gawker to go "hey, maybe this is hosed up". How can anyone look at that chain of events and still feel there's no racism in America? This doesn't make anything better but I thought I'd point out that the Washington Post has the story as well: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/10/trump-protester-sucker-punched-at-north-carolina-rally-videos-show/?tid=ss_fb
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Xanderkish posted:Essentially, an adjective used to describe Obama a whole lot in the article is "Spockian"; I'm re-watching Voyager, and Tim Russ seems to be doing a bad Obama impression the whole time. Maybe that's just how people talk on Vulcan.
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Levantine posted:I guess I'm just genuinely disgusted that media is treating that as normal and it takes a trash clickbait site like Gawker to go "hey, maybe this is hosed up". How can anyone look at that chain of events and still feel there's no racism in America? None of those people said "I'm a racist!" while doing it so they're not racist.
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Levantine posted:I guess I'm just genuinely disgusted that media is treating that as normal and it takes a trash clickbait site like Gawker to go "hey, maybe this is hosed up". How can anyone look at that chain of events and still feel there's no racism in America? If the past seven years have taught us anything, it's that insulting the honor of fair white people by daring to suggest racism ever existed is the highest of offenses. Trump's overgrown hate rallies may we be the new normal. Xanderkish posted:That Obama article was seriously fascinating (also an hour long read, brace yourselves). Essentially, an adjective used to describe Obama a whole lot in the article is "Spockian"; that he exercises extreme caution with military intervention, is skeptical of their utility either as problem-solvers or as ways to maintain American "credibility", and that he's wary of the "Tribalism" that often is motivation for its use. The impression I got from it is that Obama is basically single-handedly holding back a lot of America's worst foreign-policy impulses, which I found both very impressive and kind of terrifying. All the more reason to ensure that none of the current gaggle of GOP should be allowed to take more power. It won't take more than a month before we've in a brand new endless war with a vague enemy.
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moths posted:I'm re-watching Voyager, and Tim Russ seems to be doing a bad Obama impression the whole time. Maybe that's just how people talk on Vulcan. Credit where it's due, it's not Tim Russ' fault. It's the writers. On topic, holy poo poo that assault at the latest Drumpf rally. Dude was already being led out by security, what was the point in sucker punching him? Like, this is poo poo I expect to see in... I dunno, Bioshock Infinite? Not real loving life. And then security arrests him for what? Getting in the way of that brave patriot's fist? I'm starting to understand Hunter S. Thompson taking the easy way out.
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ErIog posted:This is pretty much it. Levin was fellating St. Reagan's corpse a few days back, and it was stunning how he bent over backwards to depict Jimmy Carter being down to earth and humble as a negative thing. "People don't want a President that carries their own luggage." They also famously removed the solar panels Carter had installed for no other reason that I can gather beyond sheer spite. On topic, supposedly an MSNBC interview booted Rick Scott off the show for refusing to answer questions. Here you go: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/10/3758563/rick-scott-awkward-islamophobia/
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moths posted:I'm re-watching Voyager This is the most hosed up thing I've read in this whole thread.
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