|
Hollismason posted:Your right earning millions of dollars and becoming a billionaire isn't a success. Inheriting millions and largely failing to not make way too much more with it is a failure. Bill Gates built an empire out of nothing.
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 18:36 |
|
|
PTD whats with all the bad opinions lately first raw milk now this
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:50
|
|
|
Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Everybody's afraid to say it, but what if Mentos really is the freshmaker? No actually Mentos isn't even a breath mint
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:50
|
|
|
Potato Salad posted:Inheriting millions and largely failing to not make way too much more with it is a failure.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:50
|
|
|
TheOneAndOnlyT posted:
Andy Richter's ego grew three sizes that day
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:50
|
|
|
Holy crap, you have to be an absolute hack to gently caress up in real estate. Trump still can't make a goddamn casino that lasts. His failures don't harm him much because he's in a business that passes risk down the line.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:50
|
|
|
Popular Thug Drink posted:trump is pretty smart and successful at being a grifter and entertainer no matter how many furious internet people try to logic-puzzle out how he's actually a stupid man Thanks for joining us, PTD! I see you're continuing your long tradition of farting out a response without reading any of the multi-syllable words first. I know it's futile to point this out to you, especially considering what little time you have left with us before you succumb to tuberculosis, but everyone here agrees that Trump is a successful entertainer. What people disagree with is Trump's marketing line that he's a successful businessman. Please to commence your ten-page temper tantrum about people saying words you can't sound out now.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:51
|
|
|
a shameful boehner posted:PTD whats with all the bad opinions lately i dont think anyone can deny trump is gifted at self promotion. i'm just trying to throw water on this general itt tendency to reduce anything a poster doesn't understand or like to mere stupidity. this tendency isn't just inane but worse, it makes for really boring posts
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:52
|
|
|
Potato Salad posted:Inheriting millions and largely failing to not make way too much more with it is a failure.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:52
|
|
|
Hollismason posted:Your right earning millions of dollars and becoming a billionaire isn't a success. Oh c'mon now.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:53
|
|
|
Potato Salad posted:Holy crap, you have to be an absolute hack to gently caress up in real estate. Trump still can't make a goddamn casino that lasts. His failures don't harm him much because he's in a business that passes risk down the line.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:53
|
|
|
I have to say, Im really confused. Im trying to point out why I think a certain line of attack or thinking isn't effective on people who are not the same people in this thread and posters like Tiny have somehow made this about me being a rube for Trump. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:54
|
|
|
Popular Thug Drink posted:i'm just trying to throw water on this thats a nice way of saying you're pissing all over the thread with your idiotic poo poo posts
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:54
|
|
|
Popular Thug Drink posted:i dont think anyone can deny trump is gifted at self promotion. i'm just trying to throw water on this general itt tendency to reduce anything a poster doesn't understand or like to mere stupidity. this tendency isn't just inane but worse, it makes for really boring posts Nobody IS denying it you useless shitposter. Boon posted:I have to say, Im really confused. Man, sidebar but I have literally never seen someone use the emote when they weren't being a disingenuous poo poo. It's the one thing you can count on in this world.So, Boon, much like every other time someone's feigning the answers you seek are in the responses you ignored. Let's ignore the fact that you're completely lying about how you approached this subject in the first place and focus on the fact that you were told, many times by many people, that the problem with your argument is that you're taking Trump's claims about his wealth and business acumen at face value. Nobody's talking to Trump, nobody's talking to Trump supporters. This isn't about how to attack or not attack Trump. This is about you believing a thing is true just because you heard it a lot. Because you're dumb.
Tiny Brontosaurus fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Mar 10, 2016 |
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:55
|
|
|
Potato Salad posted:Will the DNC, when the time comes, really open up on Trump with the ammunition we'd like to think it has? Or, in courting a moderate vote, will the DNC be gentler than it could be? According to polls doesn't like everyone outside of Trump's base hate him? Like a bunch of Democratic Voters dislike Hillary Clinton, but not so much that they wouldn't vote for her in a general election(except maybe the sexist ones)
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:56
|
|
|
You are presented with two people: One is a grifter and entertainer who has charmed his way into an okay-ish household name. The other is any other person with above-average functional leadership skill, let's say Obama, HRC, or whoever else. Which would you prefer to become the motherfucking President of the US? Those saying Trump is anything but a hack -- and lol those trying to say it's hard to see him as anything but a success -- need to remember that there is a very specific context for discussion with his name in it: this is a presidential race. Keep that context and stop trying to make him out to be an okay-decently-successful guy if you put him in a vacuum.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:57
|
|
|
Boon posted:I have to say, Im really confused. Dinosaurs have notoriously tiny brains
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:57
|
|
|
Dexo posted:According to polls doesn't like everyone outside of Trump's base hate him? Yeah.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:57
|
|
|
Dexo posted:According to polls doesn't like everyone outside of Trump's base hate him? more or less, he's like a vulture capitalist except he's plundering the GOP's credibility to build his own brand and a ton of republicans are extremely mad about this which is actually Stupid, you see, and not worth caring about at all, because he overstates how successful he is as a businessman (despite being a paper billionaire)
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:57
|
|
|
Dexo posted:According to polls doesn't like everyone outside of Trump's base hate him? Yep, and more importantly the political landscape pre-Trump was that if Democrats could get their base out to vote, they'd win without any help from people outside of their body. His nomination just makes that more likely.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:58
|
|
|
What is happening in here? Trump isn't successful because he only has some billions and not all the billions?
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:58
|
|
|
Grey Fox posted:(regarding passing risk down the line) That's ... holy poo poo that's a really good point.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:58
|
|
|
Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Thanks for joining us, PTD! I see you're continuing your long tradition of farting out a response without reading any of the multi-syllable words first. I know it's futile to point this out to you, especially considering what little time you have left with us before you succumb to tuberculosis, but everyone here agrees that Trump is a successful entertainer. What people disagree with is Trump's marketing line that he's a successful businessman. i don't know if anyone's ever told you this but you gotta chill. your posts are super angry and weird
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:58
|
|
|
I think the biggest threat from underestimating Drumpf is that people think he will continue to do all the utterly insane things he's currently doing to win the primary or that it will matter. This bloviating sack of orange poo poo has one skill in life, being a billionaire-inheriting self promoting charlatan. I guarantee he'll get up in front of the cameras and start spouting off whatever the crowd wants to hear. Full on socialist rhetoric hijacking the other side's support? I loving guarantee it, he just won't use the trigger words that produce emotional reactions. He's going say completely contradictory things at the exact same time and it won't matter in the slightest. He'll tell one group Mexico will pay for the wall while promising full amnesty at the exact same time and it will not loving matter. It will be long, complex truths trying to run behind and explain all the ten second sound bite lies, and 24/7 media coverage will love every click baiting minute of it. His opponents are going to end up waffling around saying things like 'Yes I support that, just not from him', and how well has that been working so far? He's only putting on the persona of insane racist hate-filled caricature because that's what is needed to win the Republican base. He may very well be those things personally but it will vanish faster than critical thinking about raw milk as soon as he's the official nominee because that's what a salesman does. He has no shame or values and will say then do exactly what the crowd wants him to.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 20:59
|
|
|
attacking donald trump on his wealth is probably fun (as is attacking him on anything because he's very thin skinned i.e. fuckface von clownstick), but the best line of attack is on his hand. he gets really weird about his hands.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:00
|
|
|
Dexo posted:According to polls doesn't like everyone outside of Trump's base hate him? According to polling people that viewed him unfavorably a few short months ago voted for him. That should be concerning.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:00
|
|
|
Remember when The Onion was bought by a huge Hillary donor and immediately squelched all possible satire of Hillary in favor of attacking Bernie? Good times. http://www.theonion.com/article/clinton-throws-flash-grenade-divert-attention-ques-52499
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:00
|
|
|
SumYungGui posted:I think the biggest threat from underestimating Drumpf is that people think he will continue to do all the utterly insane things he's currently doing to win the primary or that it will matter. This bloviating sack of orange poo poo has one skill in life, being a billionaire-inheriting self promoting charlatan. See, this strategy would have worked in 1976 when there was segregation in media sources. These days the media all draws from the same pot. There's not going to be any speeches of Trump saying "I support the Mexican people" because everyone outside of the Mexican people is going to see that.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:01
|
|
|
Talmonis posted:Seriously, some of you people are talking like he's Henry Ford or some poo poo. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:02
|
|
|
SumYungGui posted:He's only putting on the persona of insane racist hate-filled caricature because that's what is needed to win the Republican base. He may very well be those things personally but it will vanish faster than critical thinking about raw milk as soon as he's the official nominee because that's what a salesman does. He has no shame or values and will say then do exactly what the crowd wants him to. I still hold out a tiny grain of interest in the notion from a few months back in a USPOL thread that Trump is a DNC hitman here to sweep support from RNC voters only to laugh at them in late October and point out how easy it was to lie via an appeal to their anger and fear.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:02
|
|
|
people are going to be like "the dude who was talking about killing muslims with pig blood bullets and deporting all the mexicans is now talking about supporting the mexicans and hugging all the muslims? this seems legit, better listen to this guy, noted known person Donald Trump who everyone in america already knows about"
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:03
|
|
|
SumYungGui posted:
Oh and remember that people said exactly the same thing about Mitt Romney in 2012 and how he's totally going to move to the center and win everybody.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:03
|
|
|
Tiny Brontosaurus posted:
What in the gently caress are you talking about. Seriously, what in the gently caress are you talking about.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:04
|
|
|
computer parts posted:Oh and remember that people said exactly the same thing about Mitt Romney in 2012 and how he's totally going to move to the center and win everybody. To be fair, this strategy sorta worked in 2012, for about a week.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:05
|
|
|
computer parts posted:Oh and remember that people said exactly the same thing about Mitt Romney in 2012 and how he's totally going to move to the center and win everybody. the argument isn't even that's he going to move to the center, he's apparently going to pivot so hard that he breaks clinton's legs from the left. which, sure. okay.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:05
|
|
|
Zelder posted:attacking donald trump on his wealth is probably fun (as is attacking him on anything because he's very thin skinned i.e. fuckface von clownstick), but the best line of attack is on his hand. he gets really weird about his hands. This is the actual answer. He actually paused during the last debate to tell everyone to look at his hands, how they are magnificent and beautiful.  Keep attacking him on this and he will eventually meltdown.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:06
|
|
|
Boon posted:What in the gently caress are you talking about. Dude it's all written down, I'm not going to repeat the whole conversation for you just because you're having feelings.
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:07
|
|
|
donald trump turned a lot of money into a lot more money. but let's not act like starting with a million bucks in the 70s (which translates to, i dunno, a lot of money nowadays) isn't a significant headstart.WampaLord posted:This is the actual answer. He actually paused during the last debate to tell everyone to look at his hands, how they are magnificent and beautiful. i can't imagine he's going to handle it well when clinton, noted WOMAN, is talking about his rotten pecker Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Dude it's all written down, I'm not going to repeat the whole conversation for you just because you're having feelings. why are you like this. who hurt you tb
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:08
|
|
|
computer parts posted:Oh and remember that people said exactly the same thing about Mitt Romney in 2012 and how he's totally going to move to the center and win everybody. I lived 2011 and 2012 under a rock with my nose in a book. Was Mitt as "Lol deport all of them  " as Trump or is the idea that Mitt Romney was a racist rear end in a top hat more along the lines of tacit courtship of the hate vote?Stated another way, what did he do / say / support that was bad in the race department? I'm interested to hear if any of it even comes close to "Ban US muslims, bomb elsewhere."
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 18:36 |
|
|
Boon posted:What in the gently caress are you talking about. Are you illiterate? You're illiterate, aren't you?
|
|
#
?
Mar 10, 2016 21:09
|
|
