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Augus posted:I should probably see this movie, it's gotten great reception all around. Can confirm, Zootopia is pretty boss in general. Like, unless you're a grognardy anti-SJW, you'll probably find something to enjoy in it.
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Mar 10, 2016 22:04
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MrSlam posted:How on earth do you get fascist undertones from Dumbo and Bambi? I was thinking more about the literal war propaganda cartoons they made really.
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Mar 10, 2016 23:26
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I'm an old foreign man can someone please explain what people are meaning when they say anti-robocop. Assuming it has nothing to do with the film.
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Mar 10, 2016 23:30
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Augus posted:I was thinking more about the literal war propaganda cartoons they made really. Oh, yeah. Those are kind of fun to go back and look at. Go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong: Part of the reason Disney made those at all was that the US Army took his studio after Pearl Harbor to fortify the west coast. FDR agreed to give the studio back in exchange for Disney making the war time shorts.
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Mar 10, 2016 23:32
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Wrageowrapper posted:I'm an old foreign man can someone please explain what people are meaning when they say anti-robocop. Assuming it has nothing to do with the film. s.j.w. now gets word-filtered to robocop
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Mar 10, 2016 23:39
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Red Metal posted:s.j.w. now gets word-filtered to robocop And people wonder why these forums are so highly regarded???
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Mar 10, 2016 23:57
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If anyone ever posts a look back on the Robocop franchise, things are going to get really confusing really quickly.
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Mar 11, 2016 00:05
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prahanormal posted:And people wonder why these forums are so highly regarded??? "I'd buy that for  "
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Incidentally, Robocop is one of the greatest satires of fascism ever made. It's about a robot programmed for justice and his attempts to truly help the world, even going as far as to inhumanly, unforgivingly target the corruption of his own department. It's a movie that says, if cops really were a force for justice, they would be shooting the rich, whose arms would get super-long for no reason as they fall to their deaths. It's a beautiful message that stands the test of time. I joke but Robocop 1 and 2 are incredibly smart films. There's a continuous theme of robots reprogramming themselves that make some cool points about how ideology functions.
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Mar 11, 2016 00:23
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Hbomberguy posted:I joke but Robocop 1 and 2 are incredibly smart films. There's a continuous theme of robots reprogramming themselves that make some cool points about how ideology functions. I'm the guy who sticks up for Robocop 2 as being absolutely brilliant. It's a little sloppy in terms of structure but one part I absolutely loved was the committee that was trying to make robocop more family-friendly and it felt almost like a direct middle-finger to people who complained about the first film being too violent. The real brilliance of the first film to me is that it absolutely perfectly demonstrates the dangers of everything being privately owned. Honestly a show that does a really good modern take on that is Orange is the New Black with the prison eventually being privately held and the real shitshow that turns into for the guards as well as the inmates. And as the stale joke goes Robocop was an awfully optimistic view of Detroit 
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Mar 11, 2016 00:41
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BigRed0427 posted:Oh, yeah. Those are kind of fun to go back and look at. Correct. Part of the reason Disney spent the rest of the 40s making compilation movies was to recover from it. The Jack and the Beanstalk short from Fun and Fancy Free was originally going to be a full length movie, but soldiers stole cells from the project when the US Army left the studio. Disney had no real choice whether or not to make the propaganda films, and the rest of Hollywood was the same. I wouldn't call Disney the borderline fascists here.
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Mar 11, 2016 00:56
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MrSlam posted:How on earth do you get fascist undertones from Dumbo and Bambi? Bambi falls more into the background radiation of authoritarianism by being yet another story about a crown prince who learns morality lessons from the subjects he is destined to be lord over. Also the whole Baden-Powell/Rudyard Kipling style Burden of Leadership thing. Again, it's less specifically fascist and more generically authoritarian. Dumbo espouses a lot of the just-world and genetic-superiority ideas that are pretty popular with authoritarians. Now, you may be thinking to yourself, "but those descriptions describe pretty much every fantasy novel, sci-fi, video game, comic book, and children's movie!" and to that I would say yes, yes it does.
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Mar 11, 2016 00:57
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Hbomberguy posted:Incidentally, Robocop is one of the greatest satires of fascism ever made. It's about a robot programmed for justice and his attempts to truly help the world, even going as far as to inhumanly, unforgivingly target the corruption of his own department. It's a movie that says, if cops really were a force for justice, they would be shooting the rich, whose arms would get super-long for no reason as they fall to their deaths. It's a beautiful message that stands the test of time. Robocop 3 is really bad but it kinda almost reverses in on itself and becomes an unintentional satire of 80's to early 90's action films taken to an absurd level. It's just so loving stupid and hits so many of the worst kinds of tropes of those sorts of movies I almost feel like it's intentional on some level.
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OldTennisCourt posted:Robocop 3 is really bad but it kinda almost reverses in on itself and becomes an unintentional satire of 80's to early 90's action films taken to an absurd level. It's just so loving stupid and hits so many of the worst kinds of tropes of those sorts of movies I almost feel like it's intentional on some level. The problem with R3 is that it's one of those films that look like they were made by people who didn't see the first two, nor read the scripts or spoke with the previous team for any serious length of time, but did get some excerpts, production stills and highlight reels. The first two have a private police force with some Fascistic imagery, so in R3 you have literal storm troopers purging the ghetto's. Robocop battles outlandish thugs, so here we have a gang staffed entirely by goons like those cackling rapists from the first one. The media distorts reality and puts a gloss on terrible events, here they're actively broadcasting propaganda. It's peppered with parody adverts, fleshing out the world and ribibng on consumerism, Oh poo poo we forgot about them, lets shove one in at the end just before the big showdown. Robocop fights another robot/cyborg.... well we can't afford that so lets have him fight a Japanese guy with a sword and only slap on some metallic make up at the end. The other problem is that in addition to not really being thought out none of these elements really seem to gel, they all just seem like loose threads barely touching. Oh and chasing after a family audience with a rating tone down and some awful child character filled to the gills with `attitude`tm. Not getting Peter Weller to return was also a major loss, though we did get Naked Lunch because of it,so it wasn't all bad.
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Baka-nin posted:The problem with R3 is that it's one of those films that look like they were made by people who didn't see the first two, nor read the scripts or spoke with the previous team for any serious length of time, but did get some excerpts, production stills and highlight reels. That's where I'm coming from where it hits this almost absurd parody of that style of film. It's taking a hyper violent and dark film and sucking out everything that made it popular, changing it in ways that totally clash with it's basic concepts, the lead character isn't played by the same actor, it's toned down because there was a very popular cartoon/it had a huge toy market etc. It just hits all those tropes and it a perfect distillation of that type of film.
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Robocop 3 is like if the committee from Robocop 2 got to the film itself. It's bad but bad in an interesting, some would say philosophically useful, way. Robocop is all 'yo capitalism destroys everything beautiful in this world, it is time to wreak bloody vengeance' and Robocop 3 is all 'I am PG13, who wants some decaffeinated violence? Can't we all just get along?'
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Hbomberguy posted:Robocop 3 is like if the committee from Robocop 2 got to the film itself. That's honestly a brilliant way to put it. I watched most of Robocop 3 not long ago and it's probably not as bad as most you remember and the first part of the movie where they're putting people on buses, demolishing homes, etc is genuinely well done too.
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Mar 11, 2016 02:11
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LFK posted:Bambi falls more into the background radiation of authoritarianism by being yet another story about a crown prince who learns morality lessons from the subjects he is destined to be lord over. Also the whole Baden-Powell/Rudyard Kipling style Burden of Leadership thing. Again, it's less specifically fascist and more generically authoritarian. I think with a question like that, there is an implied "more than other media". Even if you ascribe to this view of media interpretation, given the context of the conversation they were asking what makes those in particular do so. And a later post showed that the poster they were asking meant the actual war propaganda and not their feature length stuff anyway.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dSW62oi6nw There's more skulls in this Movie Nights review of House 2 than a Davis Aurini video!
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New NC for "Cats and Dogs". I haven't watched it yet because I can't be arsed to figure out whatever new embedding site they're using this week-- but I mention it since between this and Son of the Mask-- he's now reviewed two of the movies my second (third) cousin (ish) Lawrence Gutterman has directed. The only two movies he directed. ... They-- they were not good.
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Mar 11, 2016 04:13
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Tracula posted:And as the stale joke goes Robocop was an awfully optimistic view of Detroit The joke I always heard was that they wanted to make a set to show Detroit after decades of dystopian capitalism. Then they found Dallas and didn't bother making the sets.
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Mar 11, 2016 04:39
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Hahahaha youtube closed Aurini's account.
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Mar 11, 2016 06:48
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lornekates posted:New NC for "Cats and Dogs". I haven't watched it yet because I can't be arsed to figure out whatever new embedding site they're using this week-- but I mention it since between this and Son of the Mask-- he's now reviewed two of the movies my second (third) cousin (ish) Lawrence Gutterman has directed. Good loving god. I saw Cats and Dogs in theaters and that was the movie that made me realize, movies can be poo poo.
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Chromatic posted:Hahahaha youtube closed Aurini's account. Holy poo poo, really?
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Chromatic posted:Hahahaha youtube closed Aurini's account. 
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Equeen posted:Holy poo poo, really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIrAWSiJLdI  MUH FREE SPEECH AND CENSORSHIP
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Mar 11, 2016 07:19
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Equeen posted:Holy poo poo, really?  I'm guessing his videos fell under the "Hateful content" category of Youtube's Community Guidelines.
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Mar 11, 2016 08:07
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A good poster posted:
So who's Aurini?
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Tracula posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIrAWSiJLdI I only made it a minute into that video. I got to the campfire joke, and realized I wasn't prepared to go further.
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Mar 11, 2016 08:55
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Apparently he didnt like robocop or robocop 2. He said 3 was good and that was the last straw.
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Tracula posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIrAWSiJLdI How many times does Davis angrily scream the N-word without context in the video? I don't have the stomach to watch it. I scrubbed to about half way through and heard nasally voiced gun-penis avatar guy unironically describe Instagram as "that gay poo poo" and immediately flipped it off. Always nice to see some people never grow out of junior high school.
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Chromatic posted:Hahahaha youtube closed Aurini's account. Christmas came early this year.
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This is quite an amusing video.
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Is he going to team up with Doug Walker now?
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Watching Phelous's Patreon video of Countryside Bears right now  SPOILER ALERT It's pretty funny and you should follow him on PatreonOne thing I've noticed but I never usually bring up in the comments section is how Phelan has been reviewing (mostly) cartoons for the past few years. He's the cartoon-guy now. I wonder if he got burnt out on horror movies, or if it's just easier/more fun to review cartoons? Or if most of the horror movies he reviewed started blending together? I hope Miss Wallace can jump in and answer these questions. MrSlam fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:So who's Aurini? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdIHK8O5yo
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MrSlam posted:Watching Phelous's Patreon video of Countryside Bears right now I'd say a lot of the animation he reviews now is far more horrific than any actual horror film. Also, I'm a sucker for the Old Man voice. Phelous and Linkara should do a crossover where Old Man meets Fat Grandma.
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Yeah, I love horror Phelous, but cartoon Phelous is a lot funnier.* Possibly because bad cartoons offer a million new ways to be bizarre and incompetent, while bad movies are usually constrained by the limits of reality and budget. *In that horror Phelous is super funny but cartoon Phelous is like SSJ funny. Bootlegs Phelous is also SSJ funny.
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MrSlam posted:Watching Phelous's Patreon video of Countryside Bears right now Definitely follow him on Patreon!  There's not much of an answer, he just wanted to do something different and got tired of doing horror movies every week. He still does them occasionally, he just enjoys doing the cartoon/toy reviews a lot. I think it helps that a lot of these cartoons are funny bad, versus the horror movies which can be anger-inducing at times.
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