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Literally The Worst posted:we believe in equality dc protests despite their target audience being white dudes in their 40s That would be the comics which are unarguably the worst part of the whole thing.
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Electromax posted:I pre-nominate Gal Godot for Glamour's Woman of the Year 2017. that's an extended cut yes that inserts the tales of the black freighter bit into its original-ish place in the story
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Mar 11, 2016 18:59
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Venture brothers has an iteration of Wonder Woman on the show this season. She's banging Brock.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:00
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Electromax posted:I pre-nominate Gal Godot for Glamour's Woman of the Year 2017. That is the extended cut and yeah, it really doesn't help the film. To be honest it doesn't really help the comic either, it's a thematically interesting element that takes forever to pay off.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:00
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Electromax posted:I pre-nominate Gal Godot for Glamour's Woman of the Year 2017. Yeah in the comic there's this story in the middle about this pirate ship comic. They animated it as like a bonus feature and the "ultimate edition" includes it in the film itself. The original cut itself is still 162 minutes though.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:00
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Burkion posted:Yeah, as said above- and it's still ridiculous that out of all of the studios that have had Marvel properties, Elektra is the only attempt. There's been several female led superhero movies: 1984 Supergirl, 2004 Catwoman, 2005 Elektra. Part of the current problem is that those three films really loving sucked and bombed really hard and gave female superheroes a reputation as box office poison. (There's a bizarre dichotomy in Hollywood film production where they're desperate to acquire and develop absolutely every IP they can get their hands on but they're also incredibly risk adverse.) Don't forget that Catwoman was actually a really sincere attempt at making a female led superhero blockbuster. It had a $100 million budget (at the time that was the the 5th biggest budget of any superhero movie) and starred Halle Berry and Sharon Stone, two of the biggest female movie stars of the time . Hollywood just went "Well, we tried but audiences just don't want to see female superheroes!" and moved on. The 1984 Supergirl movie, on the other hand, was produced back in the era of Superman 3 & 4, Howard the Duck and Swamp Thing and 5 years before Batman 1989 started the next superhero wave. It only had a budget of $35m (less than Howard The Duck's $38m budget) and starred first timer Helen Slater. Elektra .... well you all know how hard that sucked.
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Burkion posted:That would be the comics which are unarguably the worst part of the whole thing. the attitude is not contained to just the comics hth you can see it in the way wonder woman debuts not in her own movie, not even in a major role in the story. she appears midfight in the movie headlined by two white dudes. get over this DC IS SO MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE BUT ONLY IN THE MOVIES thing. they're both dickin it up.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:01
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:I'm six years late on this but I finally watched Watchmen and I loved it. Probably my favorite comic book movie. Thematically dense, interesting characters, great setting and tone. Extremely my poo poo. What's the general consensus on it? If you want more than a cliffs notes version of that story just read the graphic novel. The movie hits the beats and moves on way too quickly. Adrian Veidt and Laurie Jupiter were badly cast. The movie has some pretty shots and touches on interesting stuff but is a thematic puddle compared to the lake that is the comic. Plus the book's criticism of superheroes doesn't really translate well to film; the original comic was a direct response to comics of the time and the movie doesn't serve the same function for comic movies of its time. I read today that Chris Nolan told Snyder he made that movie too soon, and that is extremely on point. There's enough context now for moviegoing audiences to get what it's doing that didn't exist back in 09 or whenever it was. It would have been even more interesting coming from Snyder after having 2-3 DC movies under his belt.
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Literally The Worst posted:the attitude is not contained to just the comics hth oh word, you've already seen bvs and know how much of a role wonder woman plays?
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Mar 11, 2016 19:03
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Colonel Whitey posted:If you want more than a cliffs notes version of that story just read the graphic novel. The movie hits the beats and moves on way too quickly. Adrian Veidt and Laurie Jupiter were badly cast. The movie has some pretty shots and touches on interesting stuff but is a thematic puddle compared to the lake that is the comic. Plus the book's criticism of superheroes doesn't really translate well to film; the original comic was a direct response to comics of the time and the movie doesn't serve the same function for comic movies of its time. Maybe me not caring about the comic helps. I thought Veidt and Jupiter were great.
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justdan posted:Yeah, I hate when Superheroes in Superhero Movies actually, you know, save people! Then it's a good thing that Superman blew up the World Engine, saving the lives every man, woman, and dog on Earth. That was pretty super, man.
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Colonel Whitey posted:the original comic was a direct response to comics of the time no it wasn't, it was drawing on golden/silver age stuff super heavily and transplanting them into a modern/realistic setting
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I think it's a little disingenuous to say that Sharon Stone was one of the biggest movie stars around 2004.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:04
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ImpAtom posted:That is the extended cut and yeah, it really doesn't help the film. There are actually three versions -- the theatrical, the director's cut and the "ultimate" cut. I believe the director's cut is the only one that made it to Blu-ray. It adds about fifteen minutes or so but it has a lot of nice material.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:05
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Brother Entropy posted:oh word, you've already seen bvs and know how much of a role wonder woman plays? i'm sure she is a major part of the movie with two other dudes' names in the title, at least on equal footing with those two dudes, and is in no way there for dc to bungle the creation of the Cinematic Universe when they also shove the rest of the justice league in there
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Literally The Worst posted:no it wasn't, it was drawing on golden/silver age stuff super heavily and transplanting them into a modern/realistic setting It was doing both. The original Watchmen were golden/silver age heroes while the modern Watchmen were modern heroes.
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Literally The Worst posted:no it wasn't, it was drawing on golden/silver age stuff super heavily and transplanting them into a modern/realistic setting uhhhhh drawing on old comic stuff and transplanting them to a modern setting sounds exactly like being a direct response to modern comics
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Mar 11, 2016 19:06
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Colonel Whitey posted:It was doing both. The original Watchmen were golden/silver age heroes while the modern Watchmen were modern heroes. the modern watchmen were also golden and silver age heroes goof troop
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Brother Entropy posted:uhhhhh drawing on old comic stuff and transplanting them to a modern setting sounds exactly like being a direct response to modern comics it was literally not about modern comics at all though is the thing comics post watchmen were more of a response to watchmen than watchmen was to its immediate predecessors
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Mar 11, 2016 19:06
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I think it's a little disingenuous to say that Sharon Stone was one of the biggest movie stars around 2004. Yeah I'll pay that, for some reason I thought it Basic Instinct was just before it and not 12 years earlier. Edit: in fact Catwoman was released just 2 years before Basic Instinct 2 which was pretty much the death knell on Stone's career Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Mar 11, 2016 19:08
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spoilers dark knight returns (relevant to BvS discussion) was also not a response to modern batman comics, it was a response to a long-standing editorial policy of batman never aging past 29 dc then got hung up on this book about how silly it is for comics to never change or grow and has shcakled themselves to the aesthetic trappings of that book for fuckin 30 years without getting the irony of it which is p funny and also sad
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Mar 11, 2016 19:09
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah I'll pay that, for some reason I thought it Basic Instinct was just before it and not 12 years earlier. Maybe you were thinking of Basic Instinct 2, which was a couple years later and she is just having a drat ball in.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:11
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Maybe you were thinking of Basic Instinct 2, which was a couple years later and she is just having a drat ball in. "David Morrissey: Leading Man" is just the funniest goddamn idea to me.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:13
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Colonel Whitey posted:I read today that Chris Nolan told Snyder he made that movie too soon, and that is extremely on point. This is kind of hard to argue with. Watchmen is kind-of-sort-of a commentary on the movies but it doesn't have a lo to draw from. A Watchmen made today would have a lot more to say because 'modern comic movies' is a more cohesive ground to target than the weird mishmash of stuff that existed prior to Watchmen
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Mar 11, 2016 19:14
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The beauty of the Watchmen movie is that it predicted Marvel Studios.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:21
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:Maybe me not caring about the comic helps. That's disheartening, but ok.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:29
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The Buzzfeed articles are becoming self aware.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:43
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Electromax posted:I pre-nominate Gal Godot for Glamour's Woman of the Year 2017. Yeah, there's 3 different versions, theatrical, director's cut and "complete" or something like that. Only the third one has the cartoon bit in the middle. I think the director's cut has the cartoon as a separate feature.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:49
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Colonel Whitey posted:That's disheartening, but ok. Take it from me a guy who cares about comics Don't care about comics
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Take it from me, a guy who cares about some comics: care about some comics and don't care about other comics! Or don't, whatever, I'm not the boss of you.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:55
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Care about stuff you like. There are good comics.
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At the very least, DC seems to be pretty confident in their CU and Im very much on board with this approach. DC posted:
http://movieweb.com/aquaman-flash-justice-league-movie-story/ Also loved this Chris Terrio posted:Writing the epic superhero ensemble actually had Chris Terrio studying a number of topics he never would have explored otherwise. He says this.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:59
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I hope the Flash movie is full of Flash Facts.
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Honest Thief posted:Care about stuff you like. There are good comics. comics will break your fuckin heart AccountSupervisor posted:At the very least, DC seems to be pretty confident in their CU and Im very much on board with this approach. sounded like the next movie was Aquaman and The Flash, full title, and i got strangely hype
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Luminous Obscurity posted:blade and man of steel are def the two best comic book movies Dredd is definitely better than either of those.
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Literally The Worst posted:sounded like the next movie was Aquaman and The Flash, full title, and i got strangely hype Buddy Crossovers are a sorely underrepresented cornerstone of the superhero genre outside of comics
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Mar 11, 2016 20:23
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mr. stefan posted:Buddy Crossovers are a sorely underrepresented cornerstone of the superhero genre outside of comics We'll see how Thor 3 does it.
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mr. stefan posted:Buddy Crossovers are a sorely underrepresented cornerstone of the superhero genre outside of comics I would pay any amount of money to see Blue Beetle and Booster Gold.
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Is this the place to discuss the new civil war trailer? Cause holy crap does the voice for spiderman completely fail on all levels in it. I felt like I was flashing back to 1970s spiderman.
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