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Xenomrph posted:I'm a big fan of the ridged head design from 'Aliens', but the monster suit that ADI did for 'Alien3' is amazing and I really like that design, too. So Shmorky is doing toy reviews now??
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Baronjutter posted:So Shmorky is doing toy reviews now?? Tenzarin posted:Your picture is so small I cant even tell what movie it is from. It's AvP.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:47
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Xenomrph posted:This joke is flying right over my head - was Shmorky the guy who animated some of the old SA flash cartoons on the front page ("how is babby formed", etc)? We were robbed of future Jefferson Brother videos.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:48
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Xenomrph posted:This joke is flying right over my head - was Shmorky the guy who animated some of the old SA flash cartoons on the front page ("how is babby formed", etc)? Shmorky's descent into madness included speaking in a higher and higher pitch nerd-voice as he became a klerf.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:50
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Baronjutter posted:Shmorky's descent into madness included speaking in a higher and higher pitch nerd-voice as he became a klerf. I linked to Pixel Dan's video review because as far as toy reviewers go, he's pretty inoffensive. He does a good job of showing what figures are like without checking off the bingo card of bad poo poo you see from many other review videos.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:56
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Xenomrph posted:This joke is flying right over my head - was Shmorky the guy who animated some of the old SA flash cartoons on the front page ("how is babby formed", etc)? AvP:R to be specific - they tried bringing back the head ridges in that one, and I don't know what else they did, but the xenos look more... "meaty?"...in that movie.
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Mar 11, 2016 21:28
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lizardman posted:AvP:R to be specific - they tried bringing back the head ridges in that one, and I don't know what else they did, but the xenos look more... "meaty?"...in that movie. You're right, I'm phone posting so I didn't see the head ridges. The AvPR suits are the same as the AvP suits aside from the head and neck (and the AvP suits are the same as the ones from Resurrection, from the knees up).
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Mar 11, 2016 21:42
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I know that's the official story, but I swear the aliens look different in Requiem. Can't quite put my finger on it. Like they have these thick-rear end necks and bigger teeth/jaws. Maybe it's just cause the ridged heads streamline the head (the ridged heads are actually regular heads with the smooth dome removed) that was already more streamlined in the Resurrection redesign and it makes everything else look bigger in comparison, but the aliens' heads seem more serpent-like and their mouths take up more of their face. They definitely look menacing in Requiem but they come off much more 'generic monster'.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:07
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Well yeah, that's what I said  The AvPR suits had a different head and neck, but the rest is the same as the AvP design.The AvPR design looks goofy in the movie, but if you look at models or it or properly lit photos, it looks a lot better. It doesn't hold a candle to anything from the first three Alien movies, but AvPR doesn't do the design any favors.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:15
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As I recall another issue with AVP aliens was that their tail length varied by the needs of the plot.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:25
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Xenomrph posted:Well yeah, that's what I said Haha, somehow I missed you saying 'neck' and with the head was thinking you were merely referring to the ridges.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:As I recall another issue with AVP aliens was that their tail length varied by the needs of the plot. Case in point, when the Chopper Predator gets speared through the back and lifted into the air, the Alien's tail, like, triples in length. McFarlane Toys did a little diorama of that exact moment, it really highlights how insanely long the tail is in that shot. I'm phone posting, so I'll link pics when I get home.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:59
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Mar 11, 2016 23:35
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Maybe it was bending its butt to the side too!
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Yep, that's the one.  I imagine the shot was trying to coast by on the Rule of Cool, where the thought of an Alien spearing and lifting a Predator is JUST SO BADASS that the audience overlooks the logistics of it.
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Baronjutter posted:Maybe it was bending its butt to the side too!
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Xenomrph posted:Yep, that's the one. It would kind of have to be, becasue they conspicuously don't have a shot in that sequence that lets you see how long the tail would have to be to do that. I think it's one of those scenes that's easy to write in the script without thinking too hard, like, "and then the Alien STABS and LIFTS the Predator with its tail to look at it face to face!" and the production just has to do what they can to put the script to screen. (Unless, of course, the director decides to cut or change the sequence, but who does that?!)
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Mar 11, 2016 23:57
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david_a posted:Wow: Yup that scene totally ignores how long the tall is. Made sense for the queen being like 5x larger. Also the diorama is alittle off, the alien was in a hole on a wall and not a pillar. I didn't mind the different alien in AVP:R, they were a different breed because they were from a predalien. Ignore the other 3 that come from facehuggers, lol.
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The aliens in AVP R look like inbred aliens. Dumb and bad looking, and completely useless.
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CelticPredator posted:The aliens in AVP R look like inbred aliens. Dumb and bad looking, and completely useless. Didn't they land in middle america? Don't the aliens take on traits of the host?
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They landed in Gunnison, Colorado.
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CelticPredator posted:The aliens in AVP R look like inbred aliens. Dumb and bad looking, and completely useless. Given that they just walk around slowly without using surroundings and generally just let themselves get shot and blown up, it's not only looks.
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I know it's dumb fan stuff, but when I watch a Vs movie, I want both sides to have their moments. I never felt the Aliens got one in that movie. The predalien sucked.
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CelticPredator posted:I know it's dumb fan stuff, but when I watch a Vs movie, I want both sides to have their moments. They had AvP, predator has AvP:R.
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Mar 13, 2016 16:04
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Yeah I figured that was the point, like how if Jason vs. Freddy got a sequel Freddy would have won at the end instead of Jason.
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Neo Rasa posted:Yeah I figured that was the point, like how if Jason vs. Freddy got a sequel Freddy would have won at the end instead of Jason.
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Mar 13, 2016 17:22
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Freddy is of course not dead, but the film ends with Jason walking away from the camera with Freddy's decapitated head in his hand. It's definitive.
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Jason totally got more kills making him the winner.
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Neo Rasa posted:Freddy is of course not dead, but the film ends with Jason walking away from the camera with Freddy's decapitated head in his hand. It's definitive. Jason has just been dreaming since toxic waste turned him into a sleeping child in Manhattan. Freddy is in total control
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Jason was deffo the big dick alpha and Freddy the beta who cries himself to sleep at night in JvF Place your bets
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Neo Rasa posted:Freddy is of course not dead, but the film ends with Jason walking away from the camera with Freddy's decapitated head in his hand. It's definitive. A refresher: http://youtu.be/rf6iHwKJrrk Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Mar 13, 2016 |
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Just make the battle scenes fun and fair that both creatures get to do their thing. Make sure that the rubber suit fighting is peppered in though. Too much is bad, I don't care what anyone says.
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oldpainless posted:Jason was deffo the big dick alpha and Freddy the beta who cries himself to sleep at night in JvF Same. Xenomrph posted:Freddy literally winks at the camera and laughs as the movie ends. This is how we know he's not dead and to get us excited for a sequel that never materialized.
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Wasn't there a draft that had Freddy and Jason throwing down in hell at the very end, and suddenly Pinhead appears as the referee?
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Xenomrph posted:Freddy literally winks at the camera and laughs as the movie ends. This is called a sequel hook. It has no bearing on the narrative of the rest of the story. Just as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2EUkkX16Lk does not suddenly throw the heroes' victory in that film into question. Jason "wins" FvJ because Freddy is the villain of the movie whose plans are thwarted when the protagonists align themselves with Jason, who is treated in the movie as an innocent but extremely deadly force of nature.
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Timby posted:Wasn't there a draft that had Freddy and Jason throwing down in hell at the very end, and suddenly Pinhead appears as the referee? One of the early drafts was supposed to have Pinhead rise out of Crystal Lake during their climactic fight and asking "Gentlemen, what seems to be the problem?" before taking them both back to Hell. Would have been a cool cameo for still-young-enough-to-play-the-role Doug Bradley (certainly better than the sequels in the Hellraiser francise he's been doing) but they couldn't get the rights to the character.
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lizardman posted:This is called a sequel hook. It has no bearing on the narrative of the rest of the story. Just as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2EUkkX16Lk does not suddenly throw the heroes' victory in that film into question. The last scene of FvJ was very, very ambiguous, as it had a hazy, dreamlike quality to it (complete with a ton of fog), along with Jason being completely put back together again after being de-limbed, etc. by Freddy. It was basically just an ambiguous hook. As you said though, as far as the actual -movie-, Freddy beat Jason in the dream world, and like twice in the real world, but due to the protagonist's constant interference, Jason was finally able to kill him at the end since Freddy was the antagonist of the film.
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Freddy and Jason are both basically immortal, so the fact that Freddy isn't actually dead at the end of the movie means nothing. The whole plan was Freddy's, and the protagonists manage to thwart his plan by turning Jason against him. Freddy lost. Edit: exactly what lizardman said
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Darko posted:The last scene of FvJ was very, very ambiguous, as it had a hazy, dreamlike quality to it (complete with a ton of fog), along with Jason being completely put back together again after being de-limbed, etc. by Freddy. It was basically just an ambiguous hook. You're absolutely right about FvJ's last scene being ambiguous and dreamlike. It's possible it doesn't even "really" happen at all. (Though I don't think Jason was de-limbed aside from some of his fingerjoints. Freddy was the one who had his arm ripped off). It's a sequence meant to put a cap on the movie, give Freddy a consolation of sorts, give Jason his 'victory lap', and create excitement and anticipation for a possible sequel. I wonder if people would still think the scene muddles whether there was a "winner" if it were placed after the credits. Your second sentence reads a bit like "and Freddy would've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling kids!" Maybe he would have! But what happened happened and he didn't. (Also, I don't know if I would take the events of a crossover VS movie so definitively, like "obviously he did well on his enemy's home turf, so this means he would have won, etc." The movie is obviously going to create suspense and try to portray a more balanced fight regardless of strict sense.)
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lizardman posted:You're absolutely right about FvJ's last scene being ambiguous and dreamlike. It's possible it doesn't even "really" happen at all. (Though I don't think Jason was de-limbed aside from some of his fingerjoints. Freddy was the one who had his arm ripped off). It's a sequence meant to put a cap on the movie, give Freddy a consolation of sorts, give Jason his 'victory lap', and create excitement and anticipation for a possible sequel. My last part was referring to, since Freddy was the clear villain, he got multiple "wins" over Jason in the climax, and it took the protagonists + Jason to really "defeat" him. If anything, Freddy got a far better showing in that movie since, one on one, he beat Jason around 3 different times in the real world and dream worlds. The advantage of being the villain, I guess.
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