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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:Story chat! There's still one missing piece of the puzzle - Nahiri is (allegedly) mortal, but more than 6,000 years old as of the events of SoI. Unless the mending passed her by somehow, she should be long dead by now. Is there some known reason why she's still alive and kicking?
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^^^ How about Sorin made her a vampire to make sure she'd survive long enough to protect Zendikar forever and that's yet another reason she's super-pissed?dragon enthusiast posted:They never explicitly state Sorin caused vampires to happen on Zendikar (and hope springs eternal that Creative is... creative enough to introduce the plot twist that it wasn't Sorin's doing), also in your version of events there's no reason for Sorin to be dodgy to Ugin about the whereabouts of Nahiri. Sure there is, imagine how that conversation would go: U: "Where's Nahiri?" S: "Looking for me." U: "Oh that's convenient, you two both need to come back to Zendikar anyways." S: "Erm, not that convenient, she's kind of seeking revenge." U: "What? Why?" S: "I got hungry while I was there last time, those vampires weakened the Eldrazi prison, Nahiri left to find me, and while she was gone some other PWs showed up and released the Eldrazi." U: "..." PhyrexianLibrarian fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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dragon enthusiast posted:They never explicitly state Sorin caused vampires to happen on Zendikar (and hope springs eternal that Creative is... creative enough to introduce the plot twist that it wasn't Sorin's doing), also in your version of events there's no reason for Sorin to be dodgy to Ugin about the whereabouts of Nahiri. They have said outright Sorin's Getting turned into a Vampire by his Alaan fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Mar 11, 2016 22:09
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Maybe kor just live a long time naturally
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Alaan posted:They have said outright Sorin's DAD made the vampires on Innistrad(and Sorin into one along with them) uncle I thought
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:uncle I thought Actually grandfather according to the wiki. Hi five on us both being wrong.
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Alaan posted:Actually grandfather according to the wiki. Hi five on us both being wrong.  he came down with a bad case of being in the family of a six hour old vampire
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Didn't Nahiri put her self into a Hedron or something? Or there was some weird time traveling shenanigans somewhere because she suddenly disappeared out of no where after the first Eldrazi breakout
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Zoness posted:Maybe kor just live a long time naturally Do sparks not make you immortal anymore? I don't see what is creative about not having sorin casually gently caress up a plane by introducing vampirism. That sounds exactly like the sort of thing a younger demigod type guy would do.
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I think it was implied in one of the stories that the vampires on Zendikar are actually offshoots of Ulamog and his ceaseless hunger, although I'm not sure how that works at all, how an Eldrazi could create human-form creatures:quote:Consciousness, a sense of me separate from the hunger, took years. Perhaps hundreds of years, though how could I know? The realization of consciousness came in waves, descending streaks of insight separating me from my hunger, me from my master. I was no longer an extension of it, of the consuming force named Ulamog. I was me. Drana. http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/memories-blood-2015-09-16 Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Pale Moon is now TCG Low $3.50, God is dead and #mtgfinance killed him.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:^^^ How about Sorin made her a vampire to make sure she'd survive long enough to protect Zendikar forever and that's yet another reason she's super-pissed? In any case this line of reasoning falls into the same line of eye-rolling storytelling with previous hits such as - it was Emrakul all along - use fire on Eldrazi - I eat mana to get huge Alaan posted:They have said outright Sorin's Zendikar is not Innistrad
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Sigma-X posted:Do sparks not make you immortal anymore? no they do not, that's the basis for liliana's entire character arc
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Sigma-X posted:Do sparks not make you immortal anymore? No they do not that's one of the reasons Nicol Bolas was loving around on Alara, he's kind of upset at being mortal.
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Thisuck posted:Didn't Nahiri put her self into a Hedron or something? Or there was some weird time traveling shenanigans somewhere because she suddenly disappeared out of no where after the first Eldrazi breakout Assuming the MTGS wiki is correct, she lived for a few centuries protecting the plane, then stuck herself in a hedron, then woke up when vampires screwed up the hedron network, then left Zendikar to find out why Sorin and Ugin didn't back her up (depending on the timeline, Ugin was dead at the time). That was all thousands of years ago and we haven't seen Nahiri since. There seems to be an assumption that, at some point during those years, Nahiri found Sorin and they had a huge falling-out that has led to her current attack on Innistrad. Other things that might have happened during her search: - She found Phyrexia - She found Rath (does Rath still exist? It had Kor on it...) - She is now Nahiri, Agent of Bolas PhyrexianLibrarian fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Lets Pickle posted:I think it was implied in one of the stories that the vampires on Zendikar are actually offshoots of Ulamog and his ceaseless hunger, although I'm not sure how that works at all, how an Eldrazi could create human-form creatures: in one of the roe preview articles they said that the eldrazi hosed with the vampires of zendikar but I cba to find it
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Elyv posted:oh my god I remember this episode That test was bullshit.
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Everblight posted:Pale Moon is now TCG Low $3.50, God is dead and #mtgfinance killed him. People are looking for answers to the Eldrazi menace in legacy. 
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So apparently the upcoming hearthstone expansion is a lovecraftian-influenced horror set. Weird synchronicity.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:Assuming the MTGS wiki is correct, she lived for a few centuries protecting the plane, then stuck herself in a hedron, then woke up when vampires screwed up the hedron network, then left Zendikar to find out why Sorin and Ugin didn't back her up (depending on the timeline, Ugin was dead at the time). That was all thousands of years ago and we haven't seen Nahiri since. There seems to be an assumption that, at some point during those years, Nahiri found Sorin and they had a huge falling-out that has led to her current attack on Innistrad. Rath does not exist as it merged with dominaria during the invasion
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e:^^ did they ever explain how there are Kor on Zendikar? I'm assuming that since Rath was seeded with species from other planes (if I remember right) that the Kor were stolen from Zendikar but honestly the storyline for magic sucked once Apocalypse happened and I've not really given much care to the story (vs the setting, which I have thought is sometimes neat) since.UberJew posted:no they do not, that's the basis for liliana's entire character arc oooooooooh right. The fact that half of them are ancient makes me forget these things. Sigma-X fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Oh I was reading the story in which Nahiri, Ugin, and Sorin trap the Eldrazi originally, and it mentions that the hedrons don't just bind the Eldrazi, they also pulse magical energy that lures Eldrazi to that plane. So yeah, Emrakul is definitely happening. Like Ugin, I have my own theories as to what the Eldrazi are and why Nicol Bolas is interested in them, and why Ugin tells Jace that Bolas and Sorin will not be happy that they killed two of them. It seems likely that they are a natural part of the "ecosystem" of the Multiverse. There is probably a finite amount of mana in the Multiverse, and if a plane becomes too full of it, it will draw the Eldrazi to destroy and reshape the plane, restoring some kind of balance to the Multiverse. The Eldrazi actually serve an important role in the long-term functioning of the Multiverse, something that would be apparent to Ugin, Bolas, and possibly Sorin, but not to Jace or Chandra or Nissa. Bolas's only interest is power and regaining his immortality, he probably intended to use the Eldrazi to destroy planes and gain access to their mana himself. Sorin understood their role and was content to keep them trapped anywhere but Innistrad. Now that two Eldrazi are dead there will be consequences far in the future, but I doubt it will ever be relevant in the lifetime of any of the Gatewatch. Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Is there really no coverage of the Team Sealed GP in DC this weekend? The best format gets no coverage?
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Entropic posted:Is there really no coverage of the Team Sealed GP in DC this weekend? The best format gets no coverage? Nope. SCG is even running the event. Its a weird situation for sure.
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Sigma-X posted:e:^^ did they ever explain how there are Kor on Zendikar? I'm assuming that since Rath was seeded with species from other planes (if I remember right) that the Kor were stolen from Zendikar but honestly the storyline for magic sucked once Apocalypse happened and I've not really given much care to the story (vs the setting, which I have thought is sometimes neat) since. Zendikar is the home plane for the Kor
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I had my bingo card ready and everything.
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There's bad design decisions, and there's putting one of the most gamebreakingly powerful cards ever printed at uncommon in a draft set for no reason
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Hymn To Tourach seems like a "fun" draft card too.
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Lets Pickle posted:Oh I was reading the story in which Nahiri, Ugin, and Sorin trap the Eldrazi originally, and it mentions that the hedrons don't just bind the Eldrazi, they also pulse magical energy that lures Eldrazi to that plane. So yeah, Emrakul is definitely happening. So what you're saying is that the eldrazi are the anti-spirals and Jace and Sorin are going to GATTAI? I am ok with this.
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Entropic posted:I had my bingo card ready and everything. I don't know what you'd take out for this, but I think it's missing "producer accidentally plays the first 5 seconds of a promo video while the commentators are talking"
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Entropic posted:I had my bingo card ready and everything. That's good. That's drat good.
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Count Bleck posted:That test was bullshit. It really was.
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Everblight posted:Pale Moon is now TCG Low $3.50, God is dead and #mtgfinance killed him. In what scenario is that card ever better than Silence? Except something stupid like Chalice on one?
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Chamale posted:In what scenario is that card ever better than Silence? Except something stupid like Chalice on one? That card shows up on "worst card of all time" lists(around like #30 or w/e) it is v bad
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Entropic posted:I had my bingo card ready and everything. What is mull to 4 in the top 8 doing on there? Is this meant for the entire GP and not just round one?
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Entropic posted:Is there really no coverage of the Team Sealed GP in DC this weekend? The best format gets no coverage? Best to play, second worst to telecast behind solo limited. It's just bad television and is largely a narrative-less top-decking war. Slightly less so for team events, but it's a slog to make compelling coverage for it. That said, there's no coverage of anything this weekend. We've been having these weird weeks where there's nothing streaming so far this year. Standard is terrible to play right now, but it's super entertaining to watch (like an accident in progress). We've had maybe 2 standard major streamed events since OGW released? And we're only getting one more before rotation.
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Entropic posted:I had my bingo card ready and everything. I was going to say there's no "Randy Beuller gives bad advice/doesn't understand how cards work" but Row 5, Column 4 is basically the Beuller box.
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LSV explains how player can win game on the spot; player doesn't see it
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Elyv posted:That card shows up on "worst card of all time" lists(around like #30 or w/e)
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I guess it has collectors value as a bad card? There are some cards like Wood Elemental or One With Nothing that have value entirely on the fact that they're legendarily horrible. Protip: Buy your Razor Boomerangs before they're $20
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