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Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Smelly posted:

Just make sure you strip your weapons before dismantling them. It will destroy anything attached to the weapon as well.

I wish there was a prompt to auto-strip weapons/equipment of attachments if you try to sell or dismantle them. It's easy to forget what gun has what on it if you mod your guns a lot and switch between them, and I'd rather sort through my attachments separately to see what I want to keep or ditch over just junking them with the equipment they're mounted on.

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Pivit
Oct 14, 2012

And the Itsy Bitsy Spider
went up the spout again.

Sounds like they nerfed end-game drops by quite a lot. Now named mobs in the DZ give 1-2 phoenix credits vs the 10+ you got before, and high end weapons don't drop nearly as frequently either. That sucks.

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G
Well today's Challenge mode is 'easy' compared to Russian Consulate. Just shoot yellows till they drop dead.

Pivit posted:

Sounds like they nerfed end-game drops by quite a lot. Now named mobs in the DZ give 1-2 phoenix credits vs the 10+ you got before, and high end weapons don't drop nearly as frequently either. That sucks.
Probably because people were farming Hard missions for 10 Phoenix Credits yesterday (bosses are named so did drop birdcoin). But yeah I only got 1 purple out of hordes of yellows today and it's upsetting :argh:

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!
Just unlocked the clothes vendor and they sell a purple scarf.

FrenzyTheKillbot
Jan 31, 2008

Good Hustle
Hey any Xbone goons at about level 14 want to spend a few hours in the dark zone this afternoon? Starting at say 2:30 EST?

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
Eesh, that high-end weapon droprate nerf seems like a massive overcorrection, there's people out there saying they're killing challenge mode bosses and all they're dropping is blues.

Naturally Selected
Nov 28, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Aesis posted:

Well today's Challenge mode is 'easy' compared to Russian Consulate. Just shoot yellows till they drop dead.

Probably because people were farming Hard missions for 10 Phoenix Credits yesterday (bosses are named so did drop birdcoin). But yeah I only got 1 purple out of hordes of yellows today and it's upsetting :argh:

I was wondering what the gently caress happened :stare: Wow that's gonna put a serious damper on progression.

Knifegrab posted:

Asking again cause I still am not sure.

Just do like... 2 side-quests and you'll hit 16? Seriously leveling in this game takes absolutely no time at all, why do you need to be power-leveled?


Edit: VVV :downs:-mode: No but you see only minorities riot and loot thus all looters and rioters are black/hispanic by default so I can be outraged about how racist this game is :downs:

Naturally Selected fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Mar 12, 2016

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Waffles Inc. posted:

media is a mirror of reality though?

i love this game a gently caress ton, but if you stop for one second and think, it's pretty brutal that we're straight up murdering people who are likely in need of help, supplies, food and whatnot--at least in the Rioters' case. The other factions seem like legit organizations, but the Rioters all seem like generic non-white dudes who deserve to die for...reasons...


Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Eesh, that high-end weapon droprate nerf seems like a massive overcorrection, there's people out there saying they're killing challenge mode bosses and all they're dropping is blues.
Yeah I killed challenge mode boss and it dropped 3 blues :argh:

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
got two yellow guns at 30 before the nerf and enough credits to get a yellow mag blueprint, guess you slow levelling plebs will have to live in the shadow of the Division One Percent forever.

:smuggo:

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

Pivit posted:

Sounds like they nerfed end-game drops by quite a lot. Now named mobs in the DZ give 1-2 phoenix credits vs the 10+ you got before, and high end weapons don't drop nearly as frequently either. That sucks.

So they are making the endgame grind even worse? Are they trying to make people lose interest haha.

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.

Tenzarin posted:

So they are making the endgame grind even worse? Are they trying to make people lose interest haha.

They did it while there's only 1% of the playerbase who's gotten that far, it was clearly overtuned and far too generous. No they didn't make it 'even worse' they made it so that a game about loot and character progression isn't akin to playing babby's first game on very easy mode. That's what makes people lose interest.

It's like playing Destiny's strikes on level 28 mode and getting Kingfall quality gear, that's the closest analogy really.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

They did it while there's only 1% of the playerbase who's gotten that far, it was clearly overtuned and far too generous. No they didn't make it 'even worse' they made it so that a game about loot and character progression isn't akin to playing babby's first game on very easy mode. That's what makes people lose interest.

Diablo 3 had poo poo drop rates, and it's bad to have a loot game where you can play for 10 hours and not get loot.

Diablo 3 RoS drops loot like candy and it's insanely popular and well liked.

You're wrong, and probably disgusting no-yellow-gear scum who isn't even 30 yet.

Obsurveyor
Jan 10, 2003

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

They did it while there's only 1% of the playerbase who's gotten that far, it was clearly overtuned and far too generous. No they didn't make it 'even worse' they made it so that a game about loot and character progression isn't akin to playing babby's first game on very easy mode. That's what makes people lose interest.

Bungie learned the lesson that people don't play games forever, you shouldn't make them and that it's okay if players leave for awhile. It's early days still but Ubisoft should really consider whether they want people leaving the game thinking it's grindy poo poo or leave the game happy and willing to play more when there's new content. There seems to be some initial confusion with these companies that are making games that don't have a subscription. There doesn't have to be a treadmill of any kind because you're not trying to keep that $15 a month flowing. You want players to leave happy and willing to buy more product later, not disenchanted with the whole thing.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Don't even think its worth it to lvl to 30 yet. No rogues in the DZ or they are lvl 50 with all yellow gear.

The 19 dz has alot of rogues and is fun and you dont have to grind out 20 levels on mobs that give you 150 xp per kill. lol.


I had fun with the crota DLC but didn't stay around for House of Wolves. Taken King was a really drat good release with alot of poo poo to do. And it wasn't farm dailies for 2 weeks to do the raid. They made it fun and you just had to do strikes. That's just the bonus of being out for a year and seeing what people want.

Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Mar 12, 2016

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President
Got my yellow 249 and extended mag blueprints before they made the DZ boring, I'm all set.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Diablo 3 had poo poo drop rates, and it's bad to have a loot game where you can play for 10 hours and not get loot.

Diablo 3 RoS drops loot like candy and it's insanely popular and well liked.

You're wrong, and probably disgusting no-yellow-gear scum who isn't even 30 yet.

Tbf, The Division is far less grindy than Diablo 3 ever was.

NuckmasterJ
Aug 9, 2008
Grimey Drawer

KingKapalone posted:

I'm trying to decide on PC vs PS4.

Any idea how it will run and at what settings with this PC? I probably should have tried it on PC during beta...

i5 4670k
GTX 760
8GB RAM
1920x1200 resolution

Hi PC clone buddy! I have the exact same setup and I run 60fps on mostly max settings.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

Broken Cog posted:

Tbf, The Division is far less grindy than Diablo 3 ever was.

I am a little bitter how much time I played before paragon levels were added.

Billy Elliot
Jul 7, 2011

Space Pirate

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

I saw a lot more purple clothed guys with pom pom hats and neon green guns than those who didn't wear them. Fashion trends in games 101

I noticed the same. My new fad is running around without a hat and. No jacket wearing dress shoes. being out in the cold I would totally strip layers and freeze just to look cool. lets see if it catches on.

Tenzarin posted:

Don't even think its worth it to lvl to 30 yet. No rogues in the DZ or they are lvl 50 with all yellow gear.

The 19 dz has alot of rogues and is fun and you dont have to grind out 20 levels on mobs that give you 150 xp per kill. lol.

We'll the farming for level 30 DZ is drastically different. We've been farming DZ05 and DZ06 for drops and people don't want to risk drops to go rogue.

I'm trying to think of the best bracket to make a low level PvPer. Doing 1-14 bracket seems the easiest to level and gear for, but I don't feel like being the big bully picking on fresh meat doing baby's first Dark Zone. 15-19 seems a good compromise as you knock off the lowbie newbs and tighten the level gap.

Pivit
Oct 14, 2012

And the Itsy Bitsy Spider
went up the spout again.

Probably easier to get rank 4 contamination filter for the 15-19 DZ too. You can do it by level 14, but you really have to focus on medic resources and ignore other wings/sidequests.

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014


jackets are for plebs and rioter scum. true division rolls COLD & HARD AS gently caress.

Legs Benedict
Jul 14, 2002

You can either follow me to our bedroom or bend over that control throne because I haven't been this turned on in FOREVER!
Massive has shown that they're paying a huge amount of attention to the community and are way more willing to adjust poo poo on the fly than Bungie ever was, so maybe we should take a deep breath and see where it goes before we talk about them ruining the endgame maybe??

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Eesh, that high-end weapon droprate nerf seems like a massive overcorrection, there's people out there saying they're killing challenge mode bosses and all they're dropping is blues.

in the DZ at least drop rates don't seem changed, I'm getting the same amount of purps as before and I just got my first yellow drop, I hosed down a ton of DZ elites in the last couple days without getting any yellows. I haven't tried challenge modes yet though, maybe those got changed

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Legs Benedict posted:

Massive has shown that they're paying a huge amount of attention to the community and are way more willing to adjust poo poo on the fly than Bungie ever was, so maybe we should take a deep breath and see where it goes before we talk about them ruining the endgame maybe??

This is the Internet and we're talking about a videogame.

There's no time to post well considered posts about how this might affect things in the long term. :justpost:

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
Er... Anybody think it's kind of messed up that Ubisoft would release a massive big budget action game about desperate American citizens gunning each other down in the streets when that's almost certainly going to be commonplace IRL in a few months time?

grumbster
Apr 19, 2004
Lord of the Fjord
On PS4 you can't have both party chat and proxy chat at the same time, right? It's one or the other?

Pivit
Oct 14, 2012

And the Itsy Bitsy Spider
went up the spout again.

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Er... Anybody think it's kind of messed up that Ubisoft would release a massive big budget action game about desperate American citizens gunning each other down in the streets when that's almost certainly going to be commonplace IRL in a few months time?

I've started stockpiling scarves, just to be safe.

Sylphosaurus
Sep 6, 2007

Legs Benedict posted:

Massive has shown that they're paying a huge amount of attention to the community and are way more willing to adjust poo poo on the fly than Bungie ever was, so maybe we should take a deep breath and see where it goes before we talk about them ruining the endgame maybe??
Yeah, there's no way in hell that Massive haven't followed Destiny from launch and taken notes on what a loving mess Bungie made of it along the way. I'd say that they should have a pretty solid list over the do's and dont's for a title that borrows a lot of gameplay elements from Destiny.

Obsurveyor
Jan 10, 2003

grumbster posted:

On PS4 you can't have both party chat and proxy chat at the same time, right? It's one or the other?

Correct. Microphone input only goes to game or party on the PS4.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Er... Anybody think it's kind of messed up that Ubisoft would release a massive big budget action game about desperate American citizens gunning each other down in the streets when that's almost certainly going to be commonplace IRL in a few months time?

I don't think that's messed up, they've crafted a training tool to get us ready.

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Er... Anybody think it's kind of messed up that Ubisoft would release a massive big budget action game about desperate American citizens gunning each other down in the streets when that's almost certainly going to be commonplace IRL in a few months time?

:tinfoil:

Or maybe, they know and they're preparing you.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

So with the nerf to phoenix credits and high end drops in the DZ, looks like the early grinders shall be gods amongst men for a good long while, especially with challenging being such a dick punch to do.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Obsurveyor posted:

Correct. Microphone input only goes to game or party on the PS4.

Where can you switch this? I can hear parties but I want to hear crazy plotting Russians in the DZ

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
.
Taco Defender

Billy Elliot posted:

I'm trying to think of the best bracket to make a low level PvPer. Doing 1-14 bracket seems the easiest to level and gear for, but I don't feel like being the big bully picking on fresh meat doing baby's first Dark Zone. 15-19 seems a good compromise as you knock off the lowbie newbs and tighten the level gap.

I thought 15-19 was gonna be empty but last night is was popping till 4am central.

If you sit and farm in any bracket you will be in full purples pretty fast(like a day or 2) if you sell all your extractions. Do non-DZ vendors sell purples at this level?

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Er... Anybody think it's kind of messed up that Ubisoft would release a massive big budget action game about desperate American citizens gunning each other down in the streets when that's almost certainly going to be commonplace IRL in a few months time?

Nah, they started developing this years ago, they had no way to tell.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Er... Anybody think it's kind of messed up that Ubisoft would release a massive big budget action game about desperate American citizens gunning each other down in the streets when that's almost certainly going to be commonplace IRL in a few months time?

I'm looking for the yearly purge also.

Unleash the beast.

96 spacejam
Dec 4, 2009

Do signature skills like Tactical Link stack?

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Stormgale posted:

So with the nerf to phoenix credits and high end drops in the DZ, looks like the early grinders shall be gods amongst men for a good long while, especially with challenging being such a dick punch to do.

Happens with every game where something is easily grindable/exploitable early on, at least they were on the ball to tune it.
My guess is they'll add another tier/item level of gear with the first DLC to even things out.

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Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Lol the division reddit is imploding over the currency nerf. haha

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