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Slavvy posted:Legalise literally everything including murder. That will get rid of all crime
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Slavvy posted:Legalise literally everything including murder. What's the point of having all these laws if the criminals won't even follow them?
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Mar 10, 2016 10:28
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Please don't ban alcohol, I like it And some other things
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Mar 10, 2016 10:40
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fong posted:Drugs with very little indicated harm (like weed) could simply be legalised but controlled and heavily taxed in a similar way to alcohol and tobacco now. Why heavily tax weed (or lsd, mdma, mushrooms)?
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Mar 10, 2016 11:07
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why heavily tax alcohol? it's the done thing I guess
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Mar 10, 2016 11:12
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Fwiw I'm pretty pro the strategy that fong posted
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Mar 10, 2016 11:13
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The Schwa posted:why heavily tax alcohol? it's the done thing I guess To help counter the spending on healthcare as a result of drunk people hurting themselves/others. Same thing with tobacco and cancer. I don't think the drugs mentioned before really require that kind of spending in any way.
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Mar 10, 2016 11:44
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like nobody ever got lung cancer from smoking a bunch of weed
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Mar 10, 2016 11:54
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Realistically though I think the NZ government would tax other recreational drugs fairly heavily, as a revenue gathering exercise if nothing else
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Mar 10, 2016 11:58
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idk I guess because I dont trust people to use them responsibly if they are cheap and freely available. Look at the way people drink in NZ even with ridic amounts of tax on it
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Mar 10, 2016 12:12
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What else are you meant to do in this god forsaken country other than drink yourself to death? High alcohol duty isn't gonna stop that.
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Mar 10, 2016 12:42
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Have you ever been to Bali and seen how expats behave there? That's what happens when Aussies and kiwis are given cheap alcohol. NZ has a lot of issues with alcohol, but they'd be much worse is booze was cheaper. Shrooms, weed, e etc do have a much lower social cost than alcohol, but there's still something to be said for protecting people from themselves. Its not healthy to take e every weekend.
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Mar 10, 2016 13:58
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fong posted:Its not healthy to take e every weekend. If it is actually just "E" IIRC there is pretty solid evidence saying it is healthier than chain smoking or binge drinking every weekend - trying to find source right now but on those harm reduction graphs actual ecstasy is associated with significantly less.
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Mar 10, 2016 18:12
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Jacobin posted:If it is actually just "E" IIRC there is pretty solid evidence saying it is healthier than chain smoking or binge drinking every weekend - trying to find source right now but on those harm reduction graphs actual ecstasy is associated with significantly less. Taking e is safer and healthier than horse riding by any meaningful measure, let alone alcohol and tobacco. Any sane drug policy would legalise ecstasy immediately. http://www.encod.org/info/EQUASY-A-HARMFUL-ADDICTION.html
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Mar 10, 2016 19:13
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Taitale posted:To help counter the spending on healthcare as a result of drunk people hurting themselves/others. Same thing with tobacco and cancer. I am fairly sure that tobacco users present about the same burden on the health system as non-tobacco users since they die much much earlier. Besides that, the tax on tobacco is not at all about paying for the healthcare costs - its about making it unattainable. Tobacco has an insane amount of tax on it, way more than is reasonable, and I am saying that as someone who would support making tobacco completely and utterly illegal despite my earlier statements that all drugs should be legal - I know it doesn't fit my ideal, but I am happy existing as a contradictory creature.
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Mar 10, 2016 20:54
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Jacobin posted:If it is actually just "E" IIRC there is pretty solid evidence saying it is healthier than chain smoking or binge drinking every weekend - trying to find source right now but on those harm reduction graphs actual ecstasy is associated with significantly less. I'd imagine it depends how you measure harm. I don't have any actual data though, just my experience of people who used to do it every weekend. And again maybe it's something about the purity too, but MDMA can have a pretty nasty come down and hangover. The people I know who took it regularly got into this messed up weekly emotional cycle. Its really different from alcohol though
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Mar 10, 2016 22:12
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fong posted:I'd imagine it depends how you measure harm. I don't have any actual data though, just my experience of people who used to do it every weekend. And again maybe it's something about the purity too, but MDMA can have a pretty nasty come down and hangover. The people I know who took it regularly got into this messed up weekly emotional cycle. Its really different from alcohol though I'm not a science but anecdotally yes, this is totally a thing
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Mar 10, 2016 22:32
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Meanwhile in non drug related politics... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/77791872/police-look-to-arrange-interviews-regarding-todd-barclayquote:Several people connected to embattled Clutha-Southland MP Todd Barclay's electorate have been approached by police for interviews, while Parliamentary Services has confirmed it has also spoken to police.
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Mar 11, 2016 04:55
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You can't make booze illegal, I just won a bottle of bubbly at the work SHINE contest.
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Mar 11, 2016 06:13
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WarpedNaba posted:You can't make booze illegal, I just won a bottle of bubbly at the work SHINE contest. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO whats a SHINE?
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Mar 11, 2016 06:31
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klen dool posted:WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO whats a SHINE? http://www.2shine.org.nz/
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Mar 11, 2016 07:59
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Binkenstein posted:Meanwhile in non drug related politics... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/77791872/police-look-to-arrange-interviews-regarding-todd-barclay Rumours are the police involvement is because he may have secretly placed a recording device in the office so he could catch his staff plotting against him.
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Mar 11, 2016 08:46
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The high-stakes world of Invercargill politics 
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Mar 11, 2016 13:31
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Welp, this is not far from where I live, shooting in papakura leaving one dead
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Mar 11, 2016 20:48
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 always back the winner, that's our John
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Mar 13, 2016 01:51
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The Human Rights Commission has taken against that TVNZ Kiwimeter survey because it asks leading questions about Maori. https://www.hrc.co.nz/news/surveys-questions-about-maori-new-zealanders-biased/ quote:[re: "Maori should not receive any special treatment"] “This is a leading statement demonstrating a clear bias: Kiwimeter has decided Maori already receive ‘special treatment’ even though they do not explain what this actually means,” said Karen Johansen, Indigenous Rights Commissioner. In hindsight I agree. Its not that they're uncommon opinions and I get why they were included, but still voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Mar 13, 2016 |
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Mar 13, 2016 02:46
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Exclamation Marx posted:
How do you think it will go down? A: "The people of New Zealand have voted to keep our traditional flag we support them" or B: Never mention it again, hope no one remembers the millions flushed down the shitter.
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Mar 13, 2016 05:26
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fong posted:In hindsight I agree. Its not that they're uncommon opinions and I get why they were included, but still Why does that quote assume that "special treatment" refers to the Waitangi Tribunal? I assumed it was referring to affirmative action stuff like giving Maori students guaranteed spots in university classes etc. It's a lot easier to see how someone might consider that "special treatment" than the Tribunal. Not that I'm against affirmative action or anything, it just seems like a weird conclusion to jump to.
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Mar 13, 2016 05:31
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fong posted:The Human Rights Commission has taken against that TVNZ Kiwimeter survey because it asks leading questions about Maori. The whole first section consisted of statements like that and there were often two statements on the same general topic but from the other view point.
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Mar 13, 2016 05:50
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504 posted:How do you think it will go down? Thirty seconds on One News, followed by a quarter hour of Richie McCaw kicking things.
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Mar 13, 2016 07:05
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WarpedNaba posted:Thirty seconds on One News, followed by a quarter hour of Richie McCaw kicking things. Btw Richie wedding and Richie rugby and Richie celebrity stories are all separate and worthy of separate segments.
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Mar 13, 2016 08:03
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Slavvy posted:Btw Richie wedding and Richie rugby and Richie celebrity stories are all separate and worthy of separate segments. All of which will be contained in the general news section and not in the sports section.
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Mar 13, 2016 08:14
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Slavvy posted:Btw Richie wedding and Richie rugby and Richie celebrity stories are all separate and worthy of separate segments. Eh, I think you'll need to wait a week after the wedding before the news heads back to Richie kicking things. Upstairs for One News, downstairs for Three.
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Mar 13, 2016 08:22
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Come on now he is no Veitchy.
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Mar 13, 2016 10:18
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Mar 13, 2016 10:41
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Varkk posted:Come on now he is no Veitchy. Brava!
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Mar 13, 2016 11:04
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Varkk posted:Come on now he is no Veitchy. 
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Mar 13, 2016 11:04
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Varkk posted:Come on now he is no Veitchy. Sheeeeeeeiiiiiiit
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Mar 13, 2016 22:36
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WarpedNaba posted:Eh, I think you'll need to wait a week after the wedding before the news heads back to Richie kicking things. Upstairs for One News, downstairs for Three. What sort of things is he kicking?
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Mar 13, 2016 22:37
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Carter was the one who kicked, not Richie.
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