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Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Chantilly Say posted:

Principles, after all, are for suckers. Why do something productive when I can go make myself feel better instead?

Yup - like I said, Reaganist candidates - might as well live in their world

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Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May

McDowell posted:

Given the choice of two Reaganists I'll go third party.

Cool. Your vote is meaningless anyway so have fun.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Combed Thunderclap posted:

For me the most telling Trump moment is right after he lost the Iowa caucus and was clearly psychologically thrown off his game for a bit. He bounced back of course, but experienced politicians don't crack like that, they declare victory and just pretend to be awesome some more. (See: Rubio and Hillary on less-than-winning nights.)

It smacks of the bully who gets punched in the face and is forced to realize they're not all that, and perfectly fits the archetype of the narcissist.

It'll be interesting to see if someone manages to replicate Iowa in the general (they likely won't, external events force someone like that to confront the possibility they may not be #winning while attacks by individuals can easily be rationalized away). It'll be especially interesting to see what happens after he loses. If he really, genuinely expects he'll win...

Remember how in Nov. 2012 Romney had a live feed of this HQ that just went off air for reasons, Rove and his math had a Fox News talking head bash him, and other magical things?

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

McDowell posted:

Yup - like I said, Reaganist candidates - might as well live in their world

...fair enough, I got nothing for that.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

A few pages back but he's not really wrong here since Trump has been amazing for bringing to light all the racist as poo poo republicans that they've been courting for decades behind a veil of dog whistles. I mean gently caress, we've pretty much known it for years but now it's all out in the open thanks to Trump, and the people that have been vocally supportive of him will now always be remembered for being racist fucks thanks to social media.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

A Winner is Jew posted:

A few pages back but he's not really wrong here since Trump has been amazing for bringing to light all the racist as poo poo republicans that they've been courting for decades behind a veil of dog whistles. I mean gently caress, we've pretty much known it for years but now it's all out in the open thanks to Trump, and the people that have been vocally supportive of him will now always be remembered for being racist fucks thanks to social media.

Yeah but I highly doubt that was the tweets intended message.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Germany owns, all Trumpers will be bashed.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Yeah but I highly doubt that was the tweets intended message.

what was its intent? because I don't get it

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

gohmak posted:

what was its intent? because I don't get it

NDT is tweeting drunk I think

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

gohmak posted:

what was its intent? because I don't get it

The way I was looking at it was that racists should be totally free to be vocally racist (which is true) because then it leaves everyone else to mock them for being racists.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

gohmak posted:

what was its intent? because I don't get it

Pretty sure he's just doing some "both sides are bad the truth is in the middle" crap.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


A Winner is Jew posted:

The way I was looking at it was that racists should be totally free to be vocally racist (which is true) because then it leaves everyone else to mock them for being racists.
He equated protesting Trump supporters with preventing them from voting. You give NDT far too much credit.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Josh Lyman posted:

He equated protesting Trump supporters with preventing them from voting. You give NDT far too much credit.

Read it again.

He's saying the people protesting trump are actually protesting his supporters right to vote for him, which is actually true. I mean, you're not going to magically get rid of racism or racists, but what you can do is expose the gently caress out of them until they stop being at least openly racist.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Can't someone just ask him what he meant?

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

A Winner is Jew posted:

Read it again.

He's saying the people protesting trump are actually protesting his supporters right to vote for him, which is actually true. I mean, you're not going to magically get rid of racism or racists, but what you can do is expose the gently caress out of them until they stop being at least openly racist.

Why are we protesting Trump before he sures up his nomination anyways? Would Democrats prefer Cruz?

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer

gohmak posted:

Why are we protesting Trump before he sures up his nomination anyways? Would Democrats prefer Cruz?

Because Trump's message is a dangerous one to give credence to.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008
Cruz is also probably less likely to win in November as the nominee.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

Mrit posted:

Because Trump's message is a dangerous one to give credence to.

And Cruz's isn't? They're both dangerous and I'm pretty sure the only reason Trump gets all of the attention is because he's the one the media focuses on.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Zerilan posted:

Cruz is also probably less likely to win in November as the nominee.

People say that but I don't think so. He would rally the usual GOP base, especially the evangelicals. And he has room to pivot toward the center on stuff like immigration.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Also, don't discount the ability of the Democratic Party to gently caress things up for themselves.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

computer parts posted:

John Kerry got 88% of the black vote in 2004 and GWB was trying to appeal to minorities too so I'm gonna hazard a guess and say Trump's not going to do much better than that.

And yet, GWB has been the President who has implemented the most socialist healthcare policies since FDR.

2004 was decided with free drugs. Lots and lots of free drugs. Karl Rove knew this, and knew Democrats wouldn't take them away, while Republicans would never have to pay for them.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

My Imaginary GF posted:

And yet, GWB has been the President who has implemented the most socialist healthcare policies since FDR.

2004 was decided with free drugs. Lots and lots of free drugs. Karl Rove knew this, and knew Democrats wouldn't take them away, while Republicans would never have to pay for them.

America has an opiate crisis

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

McDowell posted:

America has an opiate crisis

...and Democrats will have to pay for it.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



My Imaginary GF posted:

...and Democrats will have to pay for it.

hah, at no point has America as a whole been willing to accept that affluent white people are consuming an enormously disproportionate amount of illicit narcotics. this isn't a trend we're about to buck anytime soon.

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
Got a Peruvian friend who's a Kansas native and is now terrified that the racists have been ginned up. Thanks Trump!

Uncleanly Cleric
Oct 17, 2005


Tigntink posted:

I've never met a Trump supporter in the wild. I'm starting to wonder if Seattle is just such strong Bernie territory that they can't exist here.

No, they exist here. You obviously don't work in telecom. :(

My department is split with the socialists, six or so Rubio supporters, a guy for kasich, the standard "not my party plepolsaquúcn:). Mid sky. Threat trumbbstaffe
Maybe I bout tv

Uncleanly Cleric fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Mar 13, 2016

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

McDowell posted:

Hillary's foreign policy will be a betrayal of Barack Obama's legacy.

and thank God for that.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

The Iron Rose posted:

and thank God for that.

What?

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Bassist Hound posted:

No, they exist here. You obviously don't work in telecom. :(

My department is split with the socialists, six or so Rubio supporters, a guy for kasich, the standard "not my party plepolsaquúcn:). Mid sky. Threat trumbbstaffe
Maybe I bout tv
Did you switch languages halfway through your post, or am I getting old and can't understand youth slang anymore?

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
The amount of people who seem to be more than ok with every protester at Trump rallies being arrested and "having their lives ruined" according to the Donald himself is pretty mind blowing.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Inferior Third Season posted:

Did you switch languages halfway through your post, or am I getting old and can't understand youth slang anymore?

I think we just witnessed a post mid-stroke

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Being a betrayal to the legacy of the (in D&D terms) "total right-wing sellout" seems like a positive thing.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

McDowell posted:

Hillary Clinton is unelectable.

So are Sanders, Trump, Cruz, and Rubio. Therefore nobody will be elected this fall.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

I think I know what happened.

One year ago scientists at the Onion were attempting to create a window to an alternate dimension where everything is maximally absurd in order to get more material for their articles. But something went horribly wrong in the test chamber and our dimension merged with the madness one

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

The Iron Rose is a tremendous war hawk who buys into the standard line that American power is measured in "credibility."

In this context, you can pretty much replace "credibility" with "erection" and not lose any meaning. "If we don't institute a no fly zone in Syria, we will lose our erection."

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

My Imaginary GF posted:

And yet, GWB has been the President who has implemented the most socialist healthcare policies since FDR.

2004 was decided with free drugs. Lots and lots of free drugs. Karl Rove knew this, and knew Democrats wouldn't take them away, while Republicans would never have to pay for them.

I don't recall medicare part D nationalizing the drug industry

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

McDowell posted:

Hillary Clinton is unelectable.

Repeating bullshit doesn't in fact make it true.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Taerkar posted:

Repeating bullshit doesn't in fact make it true.

He just saw Fox News and assumed if he did their same tactics it would work.

It did.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

It certainly has on him.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Zoran posted:

The Iron Rose is a tremendous war hawk who buys into the standard line that American power is measured in "credibility."

In this context, you can pretty much replace "credibility" with "erection" and not lose any meaning. "If we don't institute a no fly zone in Syria, we will lose our erection."

No, I get that, I meant what the hell is he thanking God for?

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