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Darth Freddy
Feb 6, 2007

An Emperor's slightest dislike is transmitted to those who serve him, and there it is amplified into rage.

Three-Phase posted:

Oh lord. The vaguely-relevant safety meeting. I know the feeling.

About the snakes - it's not as bad where I am up north, but in other parts of the US they have a really nasty habit of getting into electrical equipment. There you run the risk of a surprised snake striking a worker, or just getting electrocuted inside the gear. Like this little guy inside a medium-voltage disconnect switch:



West texas here. drat near a snake a day when it hits the right time. Don't have pictures buy showed up to a site that had a set of mating rattlesnakes.

Good eating though

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astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS
Started a new job last week at a distribution center. First thing's first, haz-mat and safety training! This boiled down to a read along of the most basic bullshit. Basically, if anything happens tell your supervisor and this is what a MSDS is. We then did a "quiz" where the lady told us the answers as we read through it. She had the balls to say "Now if OSHA does an inspection we can show them this documentation go show you were trained!"

We then went out to the shop floor. First thing I notice is that it's loud. Not as loud as a manufacturing environment, but definitely as loud as say, standing next to a highway. Is hearing protection mandatory? Nope! But thankfully they have a single box of one type of ear plug in the break room "if you want." As we tour the place, we walk on designated pedestrian paths due to vehicle traffic. But of course, there are pallets and boxes obstructing the paths.

Then we came across the most blatant violation I have ever seen. An eyewash station was situated in a little alcove. You could barely see it since there was a stack boxes and pallets five feet high and ten feet deep obstructing it. Of course, the lady we were touring with who is some salaried big wig made a joke about it. You know, instead of immediately calling a supervisor over to fix I.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Did you do anything about it

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS
lol no. This is a garbage job but unfortunately a job I need with a paycheck I needed a month ago. I was one of two new employees on that tour. A complaint is going to come back to me and I am not interested in making waves. Hell we even talked about that eyewash station and OSHA.

Yeah yeah, you're supposed to be protected in such situations but there's not a whole lot stopping them from going "yeah your metrics are below standard so bye" or a hundred other things to skirt around it. What the heck am I going to do then? Hire a lawyer so I can get my garbage job back? I'll pass. I'll be sure to wear earplugs and file complaints with OSHA once I am settled in a bit.

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH
I'm sure I've posted regarding this before, but family farms are the worst places for safety violations. They are exempt from most requirements and your equipment is usually terrible. A neighbor of ours was de-gloved from one ankle to the other, including his genitals, because he stepped over a running PTO with loose pants. Unfortunately, he lived. I'm sure his life is hell. Never gently caress with a spinning shaft.

The thing is, farmers always remove all the safety equipment on their tools or implements. It slows you down. You just have to be very, very careful at all times.

I was always impressed by my Grandfathers wisdom on safety. Signal the operator of the machine with a whistle. He/she can't hear anything else. Wait to see that they put the machine in neutral or shut it off before approaching. Check your fluid, check your hydraulics, check your brakes. Don't use the brakes except for steering and coming to a complete halt. Use the throttle and keep it in gear. Always say out loud what you are doing so everyone around you knows. Even if it's just "I'm walking to your right!" Trust me, it makes a difference.

Remember, when helping a farmer, "Ho!" is the correct call to stop whatever they are doing. "Stop" doesn't work. It can have multiple meanings. "Ho" is the equivalent of the Airforce's "Knock it off."

Content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhvJ-eZHlGw
Skip to 1:04 for quality driving.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

mostlygray posted:

de-gloved from one ankle to the other
And today in "phrases i didn't know i didn't want to know".

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Reading the NIOSH FACE database, they have an entire section for agricultural work and a separate section for underage children being the casualties. As you can expect, those two have an incredible amount of overlap. It seems very common for kids to be entrusted with obscene amounts of responsibility with little to no training, from riding a truck or cart out to the blueberry fields to help pick before they're 10 (surprise, kids don't have great balance and love to fall out of moving vehicles) to being told to drive a skid-steer loader or tractor at the same age (and running over their little brother on the way).

Maxwells Demon
Jan 15, 2007


astrollinthepork posted:

lol no. This is a garbage job but unfortunately a job I need with a paycheck I needed a month ago. I was one of two new employees on that tour. A complaint is going to come back to me and I am not interested in making waves. Hell we even talked about that eyewash station and OSHA.

Yeah yeah, you're supposed to be protected in such situations but there's not a whole lot stopping them from going "yeah your metrics are below standard so bye" or a hundred other things to skirt around it. What the heck am I going to do then? Hire a lawyer so I can get my garbage job back? I'll pass. I'll be sure to wear earplugs and file complaints with OSHA once I am settled in a bit.

Quoting this post so we can throw it back in your face when you get injured on the job or watch someone die in an easily preventable accident.

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008

my job is cool because im not in any real danger but the customers who drive under me are. except if i fell off right before a truck comes through id probably get poned

ghosTTy fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Mar 13, 2016

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008


are those insulated stairs? oh i guess so you dont hear clack clak clak when a hot girl comes over and walks up and down your stairs. cool

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

mostlygray posted:

I'm sure I've posted regarding this before, but family farms are the worst places for safety violations. They are exempt from most requirements and your equipment is usually terrible. A neighbor of ours was de-gloved from one ankle to the other, including his genitals, because he stepped over a running PTO with loose pants. Unfortunately, he lived. I'm sure his life is hell. Never gently caress with a spinning shaft.



General Bullshit: WGBS Channel 4 - Your local news leader > OSHA: My Taint Was Degloved By Accident

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Gorilla Salad posted:

I swear there used to be a bunch of images going around the web of some sort of junction box which was literally crammed full of snakes having a snake orgy.

My google-fu has failed me, although I did find a tonne of pictures with a single snake hiding in electrical boxes.

Also this:



Those holes are really big, WTF made that? Termites?

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Wasps. You can see them in the top right corner.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

General Bullshit: WGBS Channel 4 - Your local news leader > OSHA: My Taint Was Degloved By Accident

It has happened, I believe a milking machine was involved.

Rad Wood
Dec 26, 2005
Segata Sanshiro!

That whole staircase/loft combo looks like it came from Ikea. This is what happens when you build structure out of Ikea.

door Door door
Feb 26, 2006

Fugee Face


ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind


Thanks for ruining "climbing stairs without lurking worry" for me, home renovation idiots.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

Wasps. You can see them in the top right corner.

Oh, wow, thanks. Now that I see them, they're everywhere! I'm blind as hell.

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS

Maxwells Demon posted:

Quoting this post so we can throw it back in your face when you get injured on the job or watch someone die in an easily preventable accident.

Eh, this is how it goes for us hourly plebs. I am sure someone with an EHS degree is getting paid very well to manage safety concerns.

HisMajestyBOB
Oct 21, 2010


College Slice

Perestroika posted:

Is it somehow really common to have access to electricity but not running hot water in China? I'm struggling to see why you'd want something like that in the first place, even if it wasn't that likely to murder you horribly.

It's not uncommon in rural China. You might have a solar-powered water heater on the roof, if it's night and the hot water is gone, you're SOL unless you use the wood stove.

Elusif
Jun 9, 2008

Platystemon posted:

It’s cornering the market, except that the corner kills two birds with one stone by shutting down the patents.

read that as "coroner" and "shutting down the patients"

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle





Sure, it looks unsafe, but look on the bright side: if you live up there this is a great day to kill your relatives/roommates. Get rid of a pesky mother-in-law, and sue the owner for wrongful death. Chaching!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

This is why you don't hire witches as contractors, the fuckers build everything out of gingerbread

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Gorilla Salad posted:

I swear there used to be a bunch of images going around the web of some sort of junction box which was literally crammed full of snakes having a snake orgy.

My google-fu has failed me, although I did find a tonne of pictures with a single snake hiding in electrical boxes.

Also this:



Some kind of mud wasp?

Similar to mud daubers, my favorite OSHA bug. Bit of a backstory: The Hanford site in Washington State is where all plutonium production happened in the Cold War years. As you might expect, the place is a mess of a radioactive wasteland. Very expensive cleanup has been going on since the 90's.
Something the cleanup people are working with are 'fixants' - they affix contamination onto a surface. Say you have an underground valve pit for radioactive waste and it has radioactive dust all over everything. Trying to clean it (well) in place is crazy, so you spray a fixant on it.
Sometime in the mid/late 90's, a new fixant was looking very promising. It kept contamination levels down and was easy to apply and work with.
A few months after first use, however, stray bits of radioactivity were picked up in the nearest town, Richland, which is about 15 miles away. This increased over the summer. After some sleuthing, the culprit was found to be the mud dauber wasp. The new fixant contained glucose and the mud daubers took a liking to it. Then they'd spread out and build nests elsewhere. After a few months, they had finally gotten far enough away to be noticed.
The contamination was cleaned up and a different fixant used.

Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.

Gorilla Salad posted:

I swear there used to be a bunch of images going around the web of some sort of junction box which was literally crammed full of snakes having a snake orgy.

My google-fu has failed me, although I did find a tonne of pictures with a single snake hiding in electrical boxes.

Also this:



Pop a quick W on that box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfWMB-blQS8&t=15s

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

TotalLossBrain posted:

Some kind of mud wasp?

Similar to mud daubers, my favorite OSHA bug. Bit of a backstory: The Hanford site in Washington State is where all plutonium production happened in the Cold War years. As you might expect, the place is a mess of a radioactive wasteland. Very expensive cleanup has been going on since the 90's.
Something the cleanup people are working with are 'fixants' - they affix contamination onto a surface. Say you have an underground valve pit for radioactive waste and it has radioactive dust all over everything. Trying to clean it (well) in place is crazy, so you spray a fixant on it.
Sometime in the mid/late 90's, a new fixant was looking very promising. It kept contamination levels down and was easy to apply and work with.
A few months after first use, however, stray bits of radioactivity were picked up in the nearest town, Richland, which is about 15 miles away. This increased over the summer. After some sleuthing, the culprit was found to be the mud dauber wasp. The new fixant contained glucose and the mud daubers took a liking to it. Then they'd spread out and build nests elsewhere. After a few months, they had finally gotten far enough away to be noticed.
The contamination was cleaned up and a different fixant used.

Hanford is a whole thread full of OSHA.txt. My uncle and aunt have lived in Richland since the 70's. Fortunately they arrived after the plant stopped releasing radioactive iodine into the atmosphere just for fun. Lots of the locals who were around in those days have scars on their necks from thyroid surgery. They call them "Hanford Necklaces".

Tashan Dorrsett
Apr 10, 2015

by Deplorable exmarx
String Emil-san this doesn't look very safe!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Dillbag posted:

Hanford is a whole thread full of OSHA.txt. My uncle and aunt have lived in Richland since the 70's. Fortunately they arrived after the plant stopped releasing radioactive iodine into the atmosphere just for fun. Lots of the locals who were around in those days have scars on their necks from thyroid surgery. They call them "Hanford Necklaces".

Good times.

e: Now I want to buy BLOPS II just so I can shoot some zombies in a faithful recreation of the Hanford Site.

Tashan Dorrsett
Apr 10, 2015

by Deplorable exmarx
I'm worried String Emil isn't very worried about workplace safety

Don Pigeon
Oct 29, 2005

Great pigeons are not born great. They grow great by eating lots of bread crumbs.

Dillbag posted:

Hanford is a whole thread full of OSHA.txt. My uncle and aunt have lived in Richland since the 70's. Fortunately they arrived after the plant stopped releasing radioactive iodine into the atmosphere just for fun. Lots of the locals who were around in those days have scars on their necks from thyroid surgery. They call them "Hanford Necklaces".

Reminds me of the Cecil Kelley criticality incident, where a worker at Los Alamos was exposed to 27 times the normal lethal dose of radiation. They found 200 times the amount of plutonium than what was normally present in the large mixing tank he worked with everyday. Nobody knows how the plutonium got in there, but it seems likely that the government wanted to know how a person would react to such a dose and just let it happen.

quote:

Careful records were kept of every moment of Kelley's life from accident through death and onto the autopsy table. His organs were kept for pathologic exam and their plutonium levels analyzed. The results of these tissue analyses were considered fundamental to understanding what would happen to a population during a nuclear attack and impossible to obtain any other way. Although the bone marrow biopsy of Kelley's sternum was performed under the premise that the physicians wished to determine if he were a candidate for a bone marrow transplant, Kelley's death was of such certainty that an actual transplant was never seriously considered.

The government promised his widow financial compensation, but ended up hiring her at the lab for minimum wage until she retired.

Don Pigeon fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Mar 14, 2016

Tashan Dorrsett
Apr 10, 2015

by Deplorable exmarx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUSUYLubibQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HOR4KZaAv0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXIcH5V0AXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWNOuF9uzf8

Tashan Dorrsett fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Mar 14, 2016

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



Well now I know who this guy is:



Not sure if I wanted to.

Laopooh
Jul 15, 2000

TotalLossBrain posted:

As you might expect, the place is a mess of a radioactive wasteland.

Something the cleanup people are working with are 'fixants'

For some reason my brain read that as fix-ants and I immediately stopped reading the post to daydream about how cool it is that scientists have engineered ants to clean up radiation, like that oil spill eating bacteria. Like you'd sprinkle some sugar on the contaminated area and your cute little fix-ants would would don their hardhats and go clean it all up for you.

Then I resumed reading and was disappointed :downs:

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Laopooh posted:

For some reason my brain read that as fix-ants and I immediately stopped reading the post to daydream about how cool it is that scientists have engineered ants to clean up radiation, like that oil spill eating bacteria. Like you'd sprinkle some sugar on the contaminated area and your cute little fix-ants would would don their hardhats and go clean it all up for you.

Then I resumed reading and was disappointed :downs:

It sounds like they had basically figured it out. Lay down a bunch of fixant, and let the wasps disperse the radiation so it's not dangerous in any one place. But no, they had to clean that up and do it the boring way.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Laopooh posted:

For some reason my brain read that as fix-ants and I immediately stopped reading the post to daydream about how cool it is that scientists have engineered ants to clean up radiation, like that oil spill eating bacteria. Like you'd sprinkle some sugar on the contaminated area and your cute little fix-ants would would don their hardhats and go clean it all up for you.

Then I resumed reading and was disappointed :downs:
If it's any consolation I am disappointed that your reading isn't correct.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Laopooh posted:

For some reason my brain read that as fix-ants and I immediately stopped reading the post to daydream about how cool it is that scientists have engineered ants to clean up radiation, like that oil spill eating bacteria. Like you'd sprinkle some sugar on the contaminated area and your cute little fix-ants would would don their hardhats and go clean it all up for you.

Then I resumed reading and was disappointed :downs:
This isn't a 50 Foot Ant thread.

Roumba
Jun 29, 2005
Buglord
I was hoping for some kind of mutated ant that was so commonplace around there that he could just say "fixant" without any explanation and think we knew what horrible monsters he was talking about. Quite the let-down, OSHA thread.

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TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
The contamination problems at Hanford are usually tied to tumbleweeds (because they have very deep roots in an early part of their life cycle and suck a lot of nasty out of the ground), mice (because they eat everything), rabbits, and wasps.
Every animal that is killed on the reservation - over 550 square miles - is brought to a lab to be autopsied, stored, and eventually disposed of at the local rad waste processor. There's a herd of elk nearly 1,000 strong on site. They get hit by cars regularly.
I worked on site for a few years. It was the most miserable work experience I've ever had. Everyone is a WASP with conservative mindset. While sucking on the government teat, it's quite amazing.

I am glad I got out of there.

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