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Shadow225
Jan 2, 2007




Why does Maro need to have a vanilla mythic. That isn't interesting design space. Either it's super pushed and changes at least one format, or you waste a mythic slot. I don't see a win here

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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Shadow225 posted:

Why does Maro need to have a vanilla mythic. That isn't interesting design space. Either it's super pushed and changes at least one format, or you waste a mythic slot. I don't see a win here

Changing a format isn't inherently bad

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I think "card with 20 power and/or toughness" provides interesting combo potential and "feels mythic" since it's powerful enough to kill a player in one hit/is even fatter than a Magic player. I agree that anything without a ridiculous power or toughness figure (IE >=20) would not be an appropriate mythic.

I guess it could also be a Dryad Arbor variant that's all 5 basic land types or something

Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Mar 13, 2016

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


The greatest horned turtle is the best possible vanilla mythic

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

4/20 would also be an acceptable statline, IMO.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Irony Be My Shield posted:

I think "card with 20 power and/or toughness" provides interesting combo potential and "feels mythic" since it's powerful enough to kill a player in one hit/is even fatter than a Magic player. I agree that anything without a ridiculous power or toughness figure (IE >=20) would not be an appropriate mythic.

I guess it could also be a Dryad Arbor variant that's all 5 basic land types or something

What do they cost that at though? 7 mana?

Alris
Apr 20, 2007

Welcome to the Fantasy Zone!

Get ready!

Irony Be My Shield posted:

4/20 would also be an acceptable statline, IMO.

Finally it will be Assault Formation's time to shine!

is that good
Apr 14, 2012

Shadow225 posted:

Why does Maro need to have a vanilla mythic. That isn't interesting design space. Either it's super pushed and changes at least one format, or you waste a mythic slot. I don't see a win here

Maro never said he designed the card, people were just asking him about vanilla legendaries. It doesn't really sound like the kind of thing he'd make, either.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

TheKingofSprings posted:

What do they cost that at though? 7 mana?
I imagine 7-9. Desolation Twin is probably better if you're just hardcasting it and that's seen no play at 10 mana.

I guess you could also make it cost 20 just for the maximum combo potential

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~

Allstone posted:

Maro never said he designed the card, people were just asking him about vanilla legendaries. It doesn't really sound like the kind of thing he'd make, either.

Isamaru was 100% his idea and doing.

He would totally do it.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Maro killed a man and got away with it

Lets Pickle
Jul 9, 2007

6/9 is the best stat for a vanilla creature because I am 8 years old

newtestleper
Oct 30, 2003

rabidsquid posted:

Maro killed a man and got away with it

I heard it was for dealing heroin and also that he doesn't wash his hands when he shits and that he took a bunch of photos of rear end-cracks.

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013
A vanilla mythic is interesting as a thought experiment; it feels like the sort of thing they would put on a test for new developers

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


newtestleper posted:

I heard it was for dealing heroin and also that he doesn't wash his hands when he shits and that he took a bunch of photos of rear end-cracks.

Hey man Chapin sold ecstasy

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


A ton of midwestern MTG pros loved to go to raves and get high

newtestleper
Oct 30, 2003

rabidsquid posted:

Hey man Chapin sold ecstasy

That was the reference I was making

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Barry Shitpeas posted:

A vanilla mythic is interesting as a thought experiment; it feels like the sort of thing they would put on a test for new developers

What's the definition of vanilla here? Just the stats and keywords?

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


BizarroAzrael posted:

What's the definition of vanilla here? Just the stats and keywords?

Just stats only.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

newtestleper posted:

That was the reference I was making

ecstasy and heroin are very different bud

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
Weren't we getting a planeswalker spoiler today?

InterrupterJones
Nov 10, 2012

Me and the boys on the way to kill another demon god

BizarroAzrael posted:

What's the definition of vanilla here? Just the stats and keywords?

It just has to be extracted from orchids, mostly.

newtestleper
Oct 30, 2003

mandatory lesbian posted:

ecstasy and heroin are very different bud

Yes, I was exaggerating for comic effect, bud

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Archenteron posted:

Weren't we getting a planeswalker spoiler today?

Official spoilers generally start tomorrow

is that good
Apr 14, 2012

BizarroAzrael posted:

What's the definition of vanilla here? Just the stats and keywords?
Stats and keywords is french vanilla, and some other weird stuff is virtual vanilla like haste creatures when it's not the turn they come in to play and other stuff that I forgot.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Archenteron posted:

Weren't we getting a planeswalker spoiler today?

LSV said he had Arlinn on Tuesday and Sorin Thursday.

Paper Triangle
Jul 27, 2004

more dog than your dog
i accidentally bought 20 might of the masses

TheLawinator
Apr 13, 2012

Competence on the battlefield is a myth. The side which screws up next to last wins, it's as simple as that.

Hey guys I just heard there's a buyout on might of the masses, buy your foils before it's too late!

Kilo147
Apr 14, 2007

You remind me of the boss
What boss?
The boss with the power
What power?
The power of voodoo
Who-doo?
You do.
Do what?
Remind me of the Boss.

Someone needs to make a run on Sanctuary Cats. I'll be a goddamn millionaire.

Balon
May 23, 2010

...my greatest work yet.
I just noticed that Ghostly Prison is a $15 card. I have a good dozen of them from back in my first heyday playing magic.

MiddleEastBeast
Jan 19, 2003

Forum Bully
Few days old but this is sweet: Modern Esper Rally

edit: bridge from below with rally with exploit with hedron crabs, this is really very nice and good

MiddleEastBeast fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Mar 14, 2016

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

MiddleEastBeast posted:

Few days old but this is sweet: Modern Esper Rally

edit: bridge from below with rally with exploit with hedron crabs, this is really very nice and good

So you win by recurring hedron crabs?

:allears:

Lets Pickle
Jul 9, 2007

Count Bleck posted:

So you win by recurring hedron crabs?

:allears:

I think it wins by making a jillion zombies

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Blood Artist/Zulaport Cutthroat triggers or a million zombies, whichever your graveyard lets you do

Also, that series is worth watching just for this moment (paging suicidesteve):


C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

MiddleEastBeast posted:

Few days old but this is sweet: Modern Esper Rally

edit: bridge from below with rally with exploit with hedron crabs, this is really very nice and good

Oh sweet, a Modern deck where I already have the manabase built!

*sees two maindeck Vryn's Prodigy*

Nuts.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Lets Pickle posted:

I think it wins by making a jillion zombies

It sacs a lot of creatures to blood artist, makes zombies and then does it again with rally.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

C-Euro posted:

Oh sweet, a Modern deck where I already have the manabase built!

*sees two maindeck Vryn's Prodigy*

Nuts.

Is that guy going to get cheaper on rotation, or had I better look at getting some now if I want to do this?

ScarletBrother
Nov 2, 2004

BizarroAzrael posted:

Is that guy going to get cheaper on rotation, or had I better look at getting some now if I want to do this?

JtMS is still similarly priced and is banned in Modern. Draw your own conclusions, but I doubt he'll get much better than he is now price wise.

Molybdenum
Jun 25, 2007
Melting Point ~2622C
I expect him to follow LotVs price, a dip at rotation (but not as much as you'd think) followed by a quick rebound and then steady increase.

JtMS also is from a smaller printing and is really old.

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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
Team sealed GP's are even more of a suckers bet than regular GP's. It's at the daily fantasy sports level...

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