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Brunas posted:Official, factual, and non-negotiable tier list of ships from factions that matter in Star Wars: The gently caress is this bullshit. Unless the S stands for Second (and then you would be correct).
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Brunas posted:Official, factual, and non-negotiable tier list of ships from factions that matter in Star Wars: how wrong can one man even loving be
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Mar 13, 2016 08:18
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The Phantom is beautiful and the Defender is ugly garbage. Also, the Pancakes deserve some love.
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Mar 13, 2016 08:21
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Brunas posted:Official, factual, and non-negotiable tier list of ships from factions that matter in Star Wars: Holy poo poo, what is it like to live a life so wrong?
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Mar 13, 2016 08:32
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I mean, the bottom two tiers aren't wrong.
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Mar 13, 2016 08:35
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Actual good tier list with all the ships broken down by tier S TIER X-Wing TIE Interceptor Lambda Shuttle A TIER YT-1400 TIE Fighter A-Wing Tie Phantom TIE Advanced Firespray B TIER B Wing Y Wing Starviper Decimator Z-95 Kihrazx C TIER Mist Hunter Phantom YT-2400 Tie Bomber Tie Advanced Proto Punishing One poo poo TIER Tie Defender HWK Scyk Ghost Hounds Tooth K-WING TIER E Wing K-Wing Tie Punisher
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Mar 13, 2016 08:40
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The Punisher is so ugly it has come full circle and is beautiful again.
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Mar 13, 2016 09:19
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So Triple Jumpmaster for the new meta? 3 x Contracted Scout with Deadeye, Plasma Torpedoes, R4 Argromech,, Extra Muntions and Guidance Chimps is apparently whomping bottom on Vassal. On the plus side you can call it 333 Jump Street.
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Mar 13, 2016 09:43
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HidaO-Win posted:So Triple Jumpmaster for the new meta? It's basically everything Strobe talks about with XXX but actually durable.
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Mar 13, 2016 11:38
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Brunas posted:Yes? For as much as we hear about TLTs knocking out fat han etc, TLTs aren't nearly as good against low agility ships as they are high agility. Against a 0 agility ship, TLTs tokenless do 1.75 damage. Here's the breakdown of agility vs expected damage from TLT. I would always prefer to be able to shoot out of arc, given the choice, and the damage is broadly similar. I'd take slightly less absolute damage, more shots, and a point less cost over slightly more damage and a point more cost, only firing in arc, any day. My point is that TLTs should IMO cost at least the same as, preferably more than HLCs. They're a lot more useful. I don't think we'd see 4x HLC lists, even if they were possible. But we do see 4xTLT lists. Essentially, compared to a thing which costs a point more, the TLT has a LOT better chance to deal damage in practice, due to having 360 degree firing.
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Mar 13, 2016 11:49
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Endman posted:That's a good point, actually. The B-wing generic is still more efficient but it's a bit harder to fly- I do think it's more rewarding though because of the low speed stuff, though it's worse against things like super dash. I read Theorist's article and I kind of agree with most of it except the cards. Those cards are crazy. The jousters that use green dice suck. FFG tends to overvalue agility dice on generics who take one action. Poe's two evades with autothrusters are far superior to Wedge's or a Rookie's.
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Mar 13, 2016 12:08
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If TLT cost 8, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that big a problem.
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Mar 13, 2016 12:21
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Corbeau posted:If TLT cost 8, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that big a problem. The thing is, the K-wing was designed around the TLT costing as it did. You'd have to price drop at least the generic K-wings to make that work.
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Mar 13, 2016 12:26
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Panzeh posted:The thing is, the K-wing was designed around the TLT costing as it did. You'd have to price drop at least the generic K-wings to make that work. Straight up don't care. Either way. But 4x TLT Y-Wing should not exist as a build.
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Mar 13, 2016 12:30
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zVxTeflon posted:I think hes taking care of a sick parent for the time being.  He's a bit weird but it's still nice to play against him. quote:And you should totally fly Poe because Poe is bae 
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Mar 13, 2016 13:15
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Panzeh posted:The thing is, the K-wing was designed around the TLT costing as it did. You'd have to price drop at least the generic K-wings to make that work. Also straight up don't care. If it cost 8 you could still get 2 Wardens and Miranda with TLTs (and C3PO for good measure on the latter) and that would still be boring AF to play against. E: oog, the SC next week will be allowing Wave 8, and I will probably be picking up my Wave 8 (1 JM5k, 1 G1A, for now, though I'll grab a TAP if they have any left at the FLGS too). I will not, however, have any time at all to practice. With this in mind, Dengar/Guri, or some combination of Soontir/Carnor, OL, Vader, and Whisper? I kind of want to stick with what I know, particularly because I just finished painting OL, so I can actually run a full squad in my custom scheme for the first time if I do Squint/fo/Phantom. Looking at this: Carnor Jax (26) Veteran Instincts (1) Stealth Device (3) Autothrusters (2) Royal Guard TIE (0) "Omega Leader" (21) Juke (2) Comm Relay (3) "Whisper" (32) Veteran Instincts (1) Sensor Jammer (4) Intelligence Agent (1) Advanced Cloaking Device (4) Total: 100 View in Yet Another Squad Builder To give a bit greater survival against TLTs and to give OL a bit more targetting capacity if his locked target dodges him. But single-action Carnor, even at PS10, probably doesn't survive well. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Mar 13, 2016 |
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Mar 13, 2016 13:30
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Smegmalicious posted:For all the talk about them I've never squared up against one. Why are they tedious? What makes them worse that regeneration or standard arc dodgers? Nothing, really. Regen lists are waaay more boring to fight imo, since half the game is them just disengaging to go regen shields. Imp aces tend to at least stay engaged for the majority of the game. I think people just have a hard time with the palp list because target priority is tough.
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Mar 13, 2016 13:31
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On an entirely separate note... Omega Leader  To go with Soontir and Whisper in a list where I already dropped Whisper for Vader. >.<
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Mar 13, 2016 13:55
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The Gate posted:Nothing, really. Regen lists are waaay more boring to fight imo, since half the game is them just disengaging to go regen shields. Imp aces tend to at least stay engaged for the majority of the game. I honestly think palp aces lists are way more boring and mechanical to play against than regen lists.
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Mar 13, 2016 14:19
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I mean, that's cool, and I think what people dislike playing against comes down to what they are playing as much as anything. I love Imp aces lists, but I hate the palp shuttle itself, so I've been going triple aces instead. I've also been trying out Mirandash again, and it's pretty solid, but I don't think it can beat palp aces reliably.
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Mar 13, 2016 14:54
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At store tournament. Looking around I see a triple yv666 list, dash corran, vsp, vader whisper scourge, two bs and a t70, and at leaat two defendera
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Mar 13, 2016 15:02
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There were nine YVs at the tournament yesterday. Twice, we had four of them on the same table. EDIT: 
Strobe fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Mar 13, 2016 |
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Mar 13, 2016 15:24
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So Doug Kinney just won a store championship with an all Wave 1 TIE swarm. Beautiful.
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Mar 13, 2016 15:37
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Strobe posted:There were nine YVs at the tournament yesterday. Twice, we had four of them on the same table. Good lord, it's a whale pod.
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Mar 13, 2016 15:38
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pbpancho posted:So Doug Kinney just won a store championship with an all Wave 1 TIE swarm. Beautiful. TIE swarms have always been relevant except for Phantoms pre nerf
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Mar 13, 2016 15:41
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I wanna paint mine to look like a sperm whale or an orca.bunnyofdoom posted:At store tournament. Looking around I see a triple yv666 list, dash corran, vsp, vader whisper scourge, two bs and a t70, and at leaat two defendera How did triple trucks do?
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Mar 13, 2016 15:41
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Strobe posted:There were nine YVs at the tournament yesterday. Twice, we had four of them on the same table. They're so majestic when they're porposing 
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Mar 13, 2016 15:43
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thespaceinvader posted:I wanna paint mine to look like a sperm whale or an orca. Triple trucks killed by two bs and red ace. They are trash slaves with tactician and feedback
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Mar 13, 2016 16:33
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Panzeh posted:The thing is, the K-wing was designed around the TLT costing as it did. You'd have to price drop at least the generic K-wings to make that work. Too loving bad. They made multiple bad design decisions and you can't keep the worst one around because you don't want to face another one.
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Mar 13, 2016 19:00
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I can't believe how salty y'all are about something that's already been pushed out of the meta by palp aces and brobots and will soon be pushed out by triple JM and x7 / tractor Defenders alg fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Mar 13, 2016 |
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Mar 13, 2016 19:23
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Yeah, all these people hate it and think it's a problem. They must all be wrong!
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Mar 13, 2016 20:43
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alg posted:I can't believe how salty y'all are about something that's already been pushed out of the meta by palp aces I can't believe you think they've been pushed out of the meta.
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Mar 13, 2016 21:28
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drat. Tripple k tlt here at tournament. And it won the first round. Also lots of bro bots, two double bot lists and one with one. I lost first round vs. Double bots because mainly I forgot to use ptl and didnt 4 foreward 1st turn. Got hit with the crit causung crit on han and couldn't remove it because he was stressed from a k turn. 
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Mar 13, 2016 21:51
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TLT will never be pushed out of the meta. Its too good of a filler ship.
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Mar 13, 2016 21:55
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Strobe posted:I can't believe you think they've been pushed out of the meta. If you look at list juggler data, quad TLT is only about 2% of reported lists during Store Championship season. Palp Aces are still more popular, as are Brobots. Even BBBBZ is still incredibly popular. http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/time_series the graphs here are very interesting. Look at the explosion in scum y-wings around September of last year and how they gradually taper off. Omicron Group Pilot is actually even more popular now than Syndicate Thugs.
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Mar 13, 2016 22:14
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Juke Joint Jezebels: Darth Vader (29) Juke (2) Proton Rockets (3) Advanced Targeting Computer (1) Engine Upgrade (4) TIE/x1 (0) The Inquisitor (25) Juke (2) XX-23 S-Thread Tracers (1) Autothrusters (2) TIE/v1 (1) "Omega Leader" (21) Juke (2) Comm Relay (3) Stealth Device (3) Total: 99 High PS and easy access to Evade tokens to force the ships you're shooting to spend tokens. If they can pick the same target you're adding free hits with Juke, and there'll be some easy target locks floating around. Thoughts?
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Mar 13, 2016 22:47
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I need more Jukes. Juke is such a good card why does it have to cost £10 a copy and come with a junk ship I don't need?
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Mar 13, 2016 23:15
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My local store has an "Aces tourney" coming up soon. 35 points, only one ship, and each game is a 4 man free-for-all Pretty sure I'm taking this: Contracted Scout (35) JumpMaster 5000 (25), Extra Munitions (2), Plasma Torpedoes (3), K4 Security Droid (3), Unhinged Astromech (1), Crack Shot (1), Guidance Chips (0) Comedy option would be: N’Dru Suhlak (25) Z-95 Headhunter (17), Cluster Missiles (4), Glitterstim (2), Lone Wolf (2), Guidance Chips (0) Sure it's 10 points under, but it should be able to erase one ship per game.
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Mar 13, 2016 23:29
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thespaceinvader posted:I need more Jukes. Juke is such a good card why does it have to cost £10 a copy and come with a junk ship I don't need? Is the FO actually junk? I like it.
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So I traded some 40k stuff for a Rebel Transport today, and turned around to field the following:quote:Luke Skywalker (28) Some Numbers posted:Is the FO actually junk? I like it. I like to run 3x Zeta squadron pilots with Epsilon leader as a ~65 pt core, and flavor the rest of the list to taste. It functions fairly well, FOs are more than just TIE Fighters with a shield upgrade bolted on. Lots more green on the dial, target locks, and S-loops make them more dangerous than you'd first expect, and that's before you start getting into pilot abilities.
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