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Well it seems like not sinking anything at Pearl is common. In my current Grand Campaign, none of my battleships are in danger of sinking. My most damaged ship has damage values of 60/30/21/0
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Mar 9, 2016 19:03
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Well, Balikpapan has oil at least.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:35
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I hope that Grey checked that the KB actually has the fuel, sorties, and ammo to help there.
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Mar 9, 2016 19:39
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For what it's worth, historically the only BB sunk at Pearl was Arizona. And that was from a lucky hit on the magazine (likely because a bulkhead wasn't closed). All the other BBs (not counting Utah, which was a training ship) were made seaworthy. West Virginia and California were "sunk" but were salvaged and put back into service by 1944. Oklahoma was being towed to California for scrap and only sank then. Nevada, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, and Maryland were all back in service by 1942. Heck, Nevada almost made it out of the harbor. West Virginia, Maryland, Tennessee, California, and Pennsylvania were all at Leyte Gulf and took part in the sinking of Fuso and Yamashiro. With the benefit of hindsight, it was probably for the better that the two battleship squadrons didn't get to sortie to relieve the Philippines or something else equally dumb. They did their part in soaking up the airstrikes at Pearl and letting the IJN have their "decisive blow." Insane Totoro fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Mar 9, 2016 20:29
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Mikl posted:Dear god, man. Have you sunk anything at Pear? Anything at all? PT-25 DD Bagley DD Monaghan DD Shaw DM Breese AM Tern AMc Redbird All sunk at Pearl. Not exactly critical ships
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Mar 9, 2016 21:05
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Why are you sending 300 AV to Biliton when Palembang is still standing  And the probability of the oil fields getting blown up rises with each level of defenses the Dutch defenders are allowed to build there...
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Mar 9, 2016 21:09
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Grey enjoys audience suffering too much not to.
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Mar 9, 2016 22:19
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Grey you know those crappy small xAK with 6000 endurance, I forget the class name. They all convert to 6000 endurance PB's. These are your primary escort ships the first half of the game,
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Mar 9, 2016 22:22
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Jobbo_Fett posted:PT-25 In my game only PT-20 was sunk so Grey has done better than the AI in my game.
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Mar 10, 2016 00:13
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   Clunk! Mwah ha ha!   I reactivate the bombers over Singapore, having replaced their losses – they come in at the right height for once and hit something! They are all set for 10,000 feet, but like to fly a little high it seems.  With this many damaged planes, I'm not going to be able to do this for long!  While it lasts however, we can do some damage – and more importantly, disruption.  I won't report in this detail again, but its been quiet, and this is some action.  We also assault – I know this was to be bloody, but we take a layer of forts, and that is the aim.  We do take more of Sumatra.   We hammer down one of the few remaining resistance points.   Our fighter losses have spiked as expected, but we made some progress.
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Mar 10, 2016 18:06
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just caught up to find my lucky ship has been dead for a while. what was the new zealand navy doing hanging out in the philippines, anyway? things seem to be proceeding apace. aside from palembang! that was supposed to happen a month ago! also i'm glad to see the world didn't end when we hit the leap year that could not be. i was worried about that. one of my favorite parts of the first lp was how the leap years lined up
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Mar 11, 2016 07:29
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The real issue is there are only 19 days of the amphibious bonus left, then Grey has to start planning for three months for every base he wants to land at.
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Mar 11, 2016 16:59
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He's taking Palambang the hard way. Those little pixel mans can only attack when they've marched across half of Sumatra.
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Mar 11, 2016 17:47
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  It looks like the Allied subs are waking up.  Our own subs are still active though.  This hurts, but we need to do SOMETHING at Singapore.  It does hurt though.   This is an auto shock attack.  The air losses at Singapore are heavy, but not catastrophic – one more day then I'll rest them.  We come out ahead in the ship losses.
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Mar 11, 2016 18:54
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steinrokkan posted:Though I don't see any evidence that Grey isn't doing that. Losing freighters to gunfire from subs only happens when you don't escort them. At least I never saw a gun attack by a sub on an escorted convoy.
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Mar 12, 2016 18:31
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   Dammit, that's one of my big ones!  We are pushing south once more, and come into range of more bombers.  This one gets me an Orphan Anne broadcast.  Things kick off here.  Changsha stutters back into life – hopefully this will be the last offensive here.  We hit several places hard.  In others, the terrain costs us.  Another bloody day in China, but the invasion force for Java is kicking off.  I'm hitting Batavia with all my force, then I'll sweep down from there.  I said it was a big one.
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Mar 12, 2016 20:51
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Is Palembang on the menu at all for this year?
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Mar 12, 2016 22:10
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Grey PLEASE PLEASE do not land directly on Batavia, it has coastal guns and a large minefield, you'll lokse a lot of ships for nothing. Land next door and walk to the Batavia hex.
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Mar 12, 2016 22:21
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Saros posted:Grey PLEASE PLEASE do not land directly on Batavia, it has coastal guns and a large minefield, you'll lokse a lot of ships for nothing. Land next door and walk to the Batavia hex. Why would you use any one of the nearby poorly defended bases when you can build a corpse bridge straight from Oosthaven to Batavia.
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Mar 12, 2016 22:25
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Palembang shalembang. Grey researched the 'human sacrifices as fuel' technology first  .
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Mar 13, 2016 00:43
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  Its rare to see these guys get hits, but these pilots know what their doing it seems.  At Hankow, our force is much smaller than the enemies, but has all the advantages – I may well be able to hold.  A dull as dishwater day. But at least troops are one the move now.  Level bomber losses. The shame.
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Mar 13, 2016 18:18
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How on earth does a force of less than ten thousand men and no vehicles have 2600 assault value?
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Mar 13, 2016 18:36
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Probably an attack by only a fraction of the units in all likelyhood. The AV value is for all the troops in the hex and the adjusted AV is the real value.
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Mar 13, 2016 18:49
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Saros posted:Probably an attack by only a fraction of the units in all likelyhood. The AV value is for all the troops in the hex and the adjusted AV is the real value. Yup, only a partial attack for whatever reason. Maybe the forts, hex modifier, and experience/leadership of Grey's troops will make the difference, but I'd guess he's going to lose Hankow. A 13:1 raw AV disadvantage is a lot.
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Mar 13, 2016 22:56
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Wait, doesn't losing the Argentina Maru mean you get no Kaiyo? or does the game not model the fact that it was a conversion and builds it anyway?
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Mar 13, 2016 23:56
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So my China deathstack has its first roadblock in the form of level 6 forts at Hankow. I have a 5:1: AV advantage but everytime I make an attack to try and take forts, my AV drops by 1/8. How can I get past this besides moving more units to the area?
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Mar 14, 2016 01:14
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Dreamsicle posted:So my China deathstack has its first roadblock in the form of level 6 forts at Hankow. I have a 5:1: AV advantage but everytime I make an attack to try and take forts, my AV drops by 1/8. How can I get past this besides moving more units to the area? Oh, you only have 38 guns? Ummm...
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Mar 14, 2016 02:21
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CannonFodder posted:Bombardment to whittle down their forces while the rest of your troops rest. 1571 guns, although worryingly there seems to be no effect on the enemy AV during those bombardment attacks. EDIT: So my new strategy is now to keep attacking and have them attack me in return which crushes their AV as the terrain isn't good for any attacks. My raw AV advantage is now 10:1 even though I lost 2000 AV. Dreamsicle fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Mar 14, 2016 02:44
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  Our planes hit Singapore again.  Losses are high as normal.  These guys are getting annoying.  Another day of heavy fighting at Changsha.   An advance force arrives at Moulmien, and while they can't take the city on their own, the British forces can't shift them either.  Hankow seems to be secure.  I'm going to attack Singapore again tomorrow, the losses will be high, but I can't just sit here. I'm also calling off the air strikes, the price is to high.  These guys are also getting out of range.
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Mar 14, 2016 18:00
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Dreamsicle posted:1571 guns, although worryingly there seems to be no effect on the enemy AV during those bombardment attacks. If its in China be sure to switch to the advanced view in the unit details screen and look at individual unit's supply levels. If the big AV formations are red don't attack that turn and wait a few days for supply to get high enough. Units take a huge AV penalty if they are even 1 supply short. The infrastructure in China is bad enough you may have to wait half a week in between attacks but with supply your units will be doing way more damage and taking lower casualties overall. They nerfed the bombardment action from previous WITP versions. Its basically useless if you aren't attacking at the same time. Just a waste of supplies.
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Mar 14, 2016 18:25
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So I finally got to reduce enemy forts at Hankow so the end should be near I do have another question though. What the hell do I do with all the base forces on the West Coast and Pearl? All I've done with them so far is send 4-5 of them to Noumea.
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Mar 15, 2016 19:10
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Looks like you're doing a lot better at Changsha.
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  I decided to support the attack with one more day of bombings.  We take a layer of forts down, its a start. We just need to do this a few more times, as the British will be rebuilding them like mad.  The Kido Butai does some warm up exercises.  Another of their last few bases falls.  We hit Changsha again.  In a day of maximum effort (and casualties) we hit another force that has been hanging around for ages.  We hit hard and lots of casualties are seen on both sides, but we take another base, and I think the losses are worthwhile. I still think Singapore is overly defended for a base that was historically only protected from the sea.... The Allied base points also drop. This is good and proper. Grey Hunter fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Mar 16, 2016 |
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Mar 16, 2016 06:02
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Grey, you missed the 15th.
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Mar 16, 2016 11:23
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Ooooooo, time travel! Spooky!
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Mar 16, 2016 11:57
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Grey, you missed the 15th. Dammit! I'll sort that tonight.
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Mar 16, 2016 13:25
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just quietly switch out the placards and see if anyone notices
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Mar 16, 2016 14:19
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Ok, as I looked it up, the Beech 18-S is a light passenger aircraft whose primary military use is training USAAF navigators and bombardiers. That's probably the civilian transport version though, unless they're lumping them all in under the default civilian name.
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Mar 16, 2016 15:11
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In our timeline, the Halo was sunk by a German U-boat in the Gulf of Mexico on May 20, 1942. After the sinking, the survivors had a pretty harrowing time of it trying to survive: quote:23 men of the crew of eight officers and 34 men managed to leave the ship, but only one raft was left, the four lifeboats and three other rafts were destroyed by the explosions and fire. The survivors huddled together clinging to wreckage in the water near the sunken ship throughout the night and the next day. The oil on the surface burned for six hours. Two men cling to a half-burned raft and stayed on it for seven days without food or water. They were then picked up by Otina and taken to New Orleans. U-506, the boat that sank the Halo, would later be depth-charged by a B-24 Liberator in July 1943.
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Dreamsicle posted:So I finally got to reduce enemy forts at Hankow so the end should be near I do have another question though. What the hell do I do with all the base forces on the West Coast and Pearl? All I've done with them so far is send 4-5 of them to Noumea. They will get used to maintain the tons of bases you'll be acquiring as you capture all of the Pacific, 1-2 base forces per tiny island base, more for larger bases. Use airbase forces if you want to include more planes at a base, use naval base forces to get more supplies unloaded from ships per turn at the base. You will also get about a million base construction forces and beyond using a few here and there I haven't found a good use for them. Building up bases is just too easy to need the historically accurate numbers you get.
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