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Personally, I find having your dog die, especially during your childhood, to be a pretty unfunny experience but that's just me. Anyway, by the end of the story, it's revealed that the dog was at some point resurrected, turned immortal and now runs the mafia. Grant Morrison, everybody.
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That's...just kind of hosed up and creepy, honestly.
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Feb 28, 2016 14:07
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I always thought it meant he killed the dog when it tried to defend the girl. Seemed appropriately grim-dark.
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Feb 28, 2016 17:38
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I'm slightly confused who the kid getting hit with a bat is, he doesn't seem to be one of the Newsboy Army.
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Feb 28, 2016 21:02
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He's the kid with the football helmet.
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Feb 28, 2016 21:16
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He didn't murder her. It's implied she died in childbirth (she's visibly pregnant in the pages leading up to that scene; he's hesitant to go on an adventure because he's about to go to college). Also, 14 is old for a dog, and it's a great grim joke. Edit: Ali shows regret in an issue of Zatanna I wanna say? Id have to redownload it to find the exact exchange, but the whole situation seemed like statutory and death from birth complications Scuba Trooper fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Feb 28, 2016 |
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Feb 28, 2016 23:33
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hup posted:Also, 14 is old for a dog, and it's a great grim joke. Yup, it's a great throwaway sad and comedic beat.
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redbackground posted:Yup, it's a great throwaway sad and comedic beat.
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Gavok posted:Anyway, by the end of the story, it's revealed that the dog was at some point resurrected, turned immortal and now runs the mafia. Grant Morrison, everybody. Possibly also runs the US banking system according to Bulleteer #3. hup posted:He didn't murder her. It's implied she died in childbirth (she's visibly pregnant in the pages leading up to that scene; he's hesitant to go on an adventure because he's about to go to college). In Zatanna #3. The whole Suzi thing is weird. We know what happens to every other member of the Newsboy Army, as in we actually see them in the story or get told their fate, except for her. She's just missing and labelled dead at 14 with no explanation for how it happens. Captain 7 is clearly labelled as a Child Murderer/Molester so the connotation is clear. A child who mysteriously dies, a connected character who is a child murderer. However at the same time with Ali and Scarface's internal conflict over the matter you get the idea it might have not been so clear cut after the fact - though that could just be guilt over dooming a childhood best friend to some kind of magical hell even if they were caught red-handed. Additionally although Chop-Suzi was pregnant, it wasn't with Captain 7's children. The crossword in Seven Soldiers #1 has a clue that reveals the name of one of Suzie's twins, which is Lena - a nordic looking woman from Manhattan Guardian. In summation, thanks a lot for making me go back and read Seven Soldiers again. No, seriously, thanks a lot. I love Seven Soldiers and any excuse to read it is good. Also it was just under my signed issues of Flex Mentallo, so I got to read them again too!
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Having the only woman in the group die off panel and only mentioned in relation to the men involved is pretty grim n gritty 90's, to be fair.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Having the only woman in the group die off panel and only mentioned in relation to the men involved is pretty grim n gritty 90's, to be fair. Based off the picture there is two, and compared to the rest she got off pretty light.
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True fridging is the ultimate compliment, if you think about it,
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I bet Morrison dislikes the movie The Butterfly Effect because it didn't go far enough
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bobkatt013 posted:Based off the picture there is two, and compared to the rest she got off pretty light. Yeah, she probably did the best aside from Millions in that she isn't dead or soon to be killed. She shows up in Bulleteer and as well as being a faded alcoholic she's also pretty much not developed at all (which I'm sure is a dig at the lack of development of female characters), both physically in terms of still being young even though it's decades later and in terms of her life in general as she's still on the super-hero scene as a C-list old hero attending conventions and being on panels. Edit: To contribute so this page has some panels, Invisibles #12: Best Man Falls It's the story of a man's life, told through a strange non-linear tale. It's hard to get across without posting the entire issue, but we see a man's life encapsulated. His birth, childhood traumas, love and hate. You see him when his childhood dog dies and when he cares for his disabled daughter. You see his flaws too and it all creates a character you can empathise with even if he's troubled.      The kicker? It's also the story of his death. It turns out he's one of the faceless goons that a main character memorably shot dead in the very first issue. The issue ends with his death which you only now realise you saw a year ago and paid no attention to because he was just a random mook. Issue #1:  Issue #12: 
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team overhead smash posted:Possibly also runs the US banking system according to Bulleteer #3. Whoa, good catch, I completely forgot about that crossword answer.
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Badass thread reminded me of the Worlogog. JSA #15 Extant (a.k.a. Hank Hall, formerly Hawk) has just escaped following his defeat at the hands of the JSA. Atom Smasher and Metron are in pursuit. Atom Smasher is losing it after his mother died in a plane crash 3 days ago.   
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That is like, supremely dickish. I get wanting your mother back but I can't feel great about someone not being able to save a plane full of people and immediately going "oh okay well can we at least save the one I care about?". Too bad those other people didn't have any superhero relatives I guess.
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Mar 14, 2016 04:03
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You're not wrong, but when you're trying to argue with a New God whose entire counterargument is "butterfly effect" then managing to save even one person is a feat unto itself.
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Godly time travel saving people is a whole can of worms because it's impossible to draw the line at who to save. What about people who died of cancer before modern medicine was invented? Don't they deserve to live? And then you end up with the ending of minus, which I just learned is no longer online aaaaaaaaaaaaah.
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Sometimes we let the guy who has given everything for the world save his mom, and that's OK.
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Lurdiak posted:minus, which I just learned is no longer online aaaaaaaaaaaaah. Wait whaaaaaaat
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Lurdiak posted:which I just learned is no longer online aaaaaaaaaaaaah. Truly, we live in the worst of all possible worlds. 
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Lurdiak posted:minus, which I just learned is no longer online aaaaaaaaaaaaah. This is the internet, someone's gotta have it saved somewhere. Or there's a dead tree version? Or something?
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Lurdiak posted:Godly time travel saving people is a whole can of worms because it's impossible to draw the line at who to save. What about people who died of cancer before modern medicine was invented? Don't they deserve to live? And then you end up with the ending of minus, which I just learned is no longer online aaaaaaaaaaaaah. Internet Archive to the Rescue! Also, thank you for reminding me that Minus exists. Content:    Minus is pretty great, you guys. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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I've read through Minus two or three times and I think she's just kind of a bitch, ignorantly innocent or not.
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woops, double post
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With the plane it's also important to remember that its Johns dealing with his own loss. It's what he dreams he could do as his sister died in a plane crash. He wishes he could save hurt, but the only way to do so is in a world with superheroes and time travel.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Internet Archive to the Rescue! No problem, I love minus and especially Great!, so I'm glad that stuff is preserved somewhere. Anyway here's what I was talking about :  And then everyone is ghosts.
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bobkatt013 posted:With the plane it's also important to remember that its Johns dealing with his own loss. It's what he dreams he could do as his sister died in a plane crash. He wishes he could save hurt, but the only way to do so is in a world with superheroes and time travel. Counterpoint: that way lies, if not madness, certainly Sam Alexander.
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Jedit posted:Counterpoint: that way lies, if not madness, certainly Sam Alexander. Or stargirl. It's just that issue was also dedicated to his sister. Sam Alexander is also awesome.
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Yeah, I only read Avengers, but Nova seems p.cool in a typical 'we really want him to be like Spider-Man/Speedball/the old Nova/the new Blue Beetle/Ms Marvel' way.
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Nova and Stargirl are both great characters. It's that extra bit of heart that really brought them to life. On the other hand, Grant Morrison inserted himself into a comic to tell you about how much he misses his cat.
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Die Laughing posted:Nova and Stargirl are both great characters. It's that extra bit of heart that really brought them to life. On the other hand, Grant Morrison inserted himself into a comic to tell you about how much he misses his cat. And that's the reason he killed Buddy's family
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Die Laughing posted:Nova and Stargirl are both great characters. It's that extra bit of heart that really brought them to life. On the other hand, Grant Morrison inserted himself into a comic to tell you about how much he misses his cat. Cat lives are worth as much if not more than human lives, I don't see the difference.
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Actual cat lives are worth more than fictional anything.
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Grant Morrison is a great writer is probably the biggest difference.
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Lurdiak posted:
That spend their time doing human reenactments!  Poison Mushroom posted:What.
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from the back-up strip to More Than Meets The Eye #50
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Why are they both now pink? Is it a colourist screw up (seems unlikely). I'm not saying it's not funny, I just don't get it. Weirdworld #3. Maps can be funny  Also you should be reading it for the amazing facial expressions.
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Milotic posted:Why are they both now pink? Is it a colourist screw up (seems unlikely). I'm not saying it's not funny, I just don't get it. Because this is the touching and inspiring panels thread and due to a time distortion the transformers are seeing themselves in the past, including this transformer mourning over the death of his partner.
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