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Foxtrot_13 posted:Plus that red card was justified and is a text book example of a tip tackle. If that had been done by any one but a Welsh player you would of been fine with the card. I got slaughtered at the time by my mates for saying Warburtons red was justified. Wouldn't even be in question nowadays, shows how much has changed. He picked him up and put him down on his head. Off you go.
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You can find as many people who think it's a straight red as who think it's a yellow or a warning and a talking to. That there is the very definition of questionable,there have been far worse tip tackles in this 6 nations that the refs haven't even blown for. That decision affected the overall result of the semi final of the World Cup. But I suppose if England loose their captain in the first 5 mins against France and go onto loose the game all the England fans will be queuing up to say it was the right decision.
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    Sam Warburton posted:The IRB said if you lift up a player and drop him it's a red card, and that's exactly what I did If Hartley nailed a French player with a tip tackle that that the red would be fully justified.
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Mar 14, 2016 20:46
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Foxtrot_13 posted:If Hartley nailed a French player with a tip tackle that that the red would be fully justified. If Hartley did that we'd laugh at him and call him a oval office.* *Not to his face, obviously.
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Mar 14, 2016 20:51
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And you could find a few tackles every match in this 6 nations that were close to or as bad as that tackle that didn't get a peep.
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tarbrush posted:If Hartley did that we'd laugh at him and call him a oval office.* I have a feeling Hartley uses the word oval office with the same abandon normal people use the word Hey or That. He probably wouldn't mind.
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Mar 14, 2016 23:50
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I have old friends who I've been calling cunts for about 15 years. But I was raised in Essex.
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Unimpressed posted:I have a feeling Hartley uses the word oval office with the same abandon normal people use the word Hey or That. He probably wouldn't mind. I didn't know he was Scottish.
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Mar 15, 2016 00:42
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Isn't it only Americans who get upset over oval office? A friend of mine had a conversation with a former prime minister of NZ who was lamenting about his inability to call someone a "good oval office" without shocked faces everywhere in the US.
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Warburton was unlucky in that the irb had told referees to be particularly strict on tip tackles before the world cup. As with any other time the irb decide to strictly enforce one rule, the refs get more lenient after a while, like what we've seen with clearouts around the neck since the last world cup. You can also see that phenomenon in the treatment of contact in the air after Jared Payne's red card in the 2014 Heineken Cup I don't know what the deal is with citing commissions. The same act could get you nothing at international level, a yellow in the Pro 12 and a ban in the Champions Cup. tag youre fat fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Mar 15, 2016 |
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Swan Curry posted:Warburton was unlucky in that the irb had told referees to be particularly strict on tip tackles before the world cup. As with any other time the irb decide to strictly enforce one rule, the refs get more lenient after a while, like what we've seen with clearouts around the neck since the last world cup. You can also see that phenomenon in the treatment of contact in the air after Jared Payne's red card in the 2014 Heineken Cup I agree that the Warburton red card was correct, but there were plenty of tip tackles in that world cup which were worse than Warburton's which got a yellow or less.
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The Rabbi T. White posted:Isn't it only Americans who get upset over oval office? A friend of mine had a conversation with a former prime minister of NZ who was lamenting about his inability to call someone a "good oval office" without shocked faces everywhere in the US. In America it's used exclusively as a misogynist term. In England it's a synonym for wanker. In scotland it's used as a comma.
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Mar 15, 2016 12:53
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Also the all blacks would of beat Wales with or without Warburton
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Mar 15, 2016 12:55
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bigfoot again posted:Also the all blacks would of beat Wales with or without Warburton Pure conjecture.
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hitchensgoespop posted:Pure conjecture. Wales suck poo poo against us. That's a statistical fact, not an opinion.
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Mister Chief posted:Wales suck poo poo against us. That's a statistical fact, not an opinion. Yes, but their performances in that world cup were possibly the high point of the Gatland era, their record against SH sides, like most sport, is as much down to mental fragility as it is representative of their performance as a team. Its still conjecture.
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nz nearly lost to a france team being sabotaged by their own coach and would have if joubert hadn't let the pressure of having a fairytale ending get to him, to say they would have definitely beaten wales is ridiculous Seru Rabeni died this morning 
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37 years old? loving hell
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Swan Curry posted:nz nearly lost to a france team being sabotaged by their own coach and would have if joubert hadn't let the pressure of having a fairytale ending get to him, to say they would have definitely beaten wales is ridiculous Swan Curry posted:Seru Rabeni died this morning edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Mar 15, 2016 |
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Mar 15, 2016 19:27
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Oh for gently caress's sake.
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I too value the opinions of white middle aged men on issues of racism, sexism and discrimination. The most oppressed.
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I particularly like the gently caress ups in the comments saying it's just banter and rugby players are tough so this shouldn't bother them. These are the same sort of shitlords that think people yelling homophobic slurs at Nigel Owens is just "top bantz".
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Mar 16, 2016 03:12
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If hed called a black player a monkey (or something worse) he would have been banned already by now.
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Vaders Jester posted:These are the same sort of shitlords that think people yelling homophobic slurs at Nigel Owens is just "top bantz". The England fans who shouted racist slurs at Nigel Owens received a lifetime ban from Twickenham, so I think we're all in this together, when we ask for consistency 
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Mar 16, 2016 14:24
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What the hell kind of racist slur do you use to call someone Welsh? It can't be "sheepfucker" because that could apply to New Zealanders too.
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And Marler's not getting anything for smashing Evans. Might it be easier for the Six Nations to just publish a list of things which will end up with England players getting punished?
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Mar 16, 2016 18:13
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Hit a player in the face with your elbow/forearm, don't get a ban. Seriously, what do they have to do to get a ban these days?
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stavros880 posted:Hit a player in the face with your elbow/forearm, don't get a ban. Seriously, what do they have to do to get a ban these days? Be someone who is Not English
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DickEmery posted:Be someone who is Not English Explains why they are so confused whenever Hartley does something wrong.
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https://twitter.com/Scott_Arthur/status/710161115481841665
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Mar 16, 2016 19:59
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And now he's getting no punishment for being racist. What an absolute loving oval office.
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Mar 16, 2016 22:43
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They said they didn't condone racism but they clearly do, its ridiculous
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They don't condone racism, except against gypsies. Absolute bell-ends.
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If he'd shouted "black boy" at Itoje, he'd be punted for a year at least. loving nonsense and the citing commission is a joke.
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It's connected to the whole thing in Europe where racism v gypsies is the Last Socially Acceptable Racism. I've been at meetings with City organizations where people have complained about being "gypped" out of stuff, or complained of gypsies nicking stuff. This was such a good opportunity to show how it's unacceptable and they've hosed it up.
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The number of arseholes saying "They're not a race, they're a culture" is infuriating and just perpetuates this racist bollocks. It's like a two minute read on wikipedia is literally too hard for them.
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I think it's ok because... a) top bantz b) he said sorry at half time It's not like he did something bad like repeatedly kick a man in the face or anything. That would certainly result in a......hang on....
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Christ. I've given Ireland players stick in the past for having absurdly short bans, but at least they're actually enforced.
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fallingdownjoe posted:And now he's getting no punishment for being racist. What an absolute loving oval office. He's done it - In one single game, he's de-throned Ronan O'Gara as the biggest oval office in Rugby.
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